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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1800 on: April 21, 2017, 06:22:08 PM »
Nobody, except me has the authority with any problems on this site.....

This all started with a few words from Bruce, he knows Robert reads this forum, so he simply gave him a heads up. I don't see any reason to continue this issue..

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1801 on: May 24, 2017, 09:24:19 AM »
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I received an unsolicited Facebook message from a Jerry Bryant  of Fernbank, Alabama.

It said, "Derek Godsey found DB Cooper on March 25, 2017.  He filed a report with the Seattle and Portland office March 27, 2017.  Cooper's real name was James E Klansnic from Bellevue, Washington.".

I've never heard of Jerry Bryant, Derek Godsey or James E. Klansnic.

Anybody else on this forum end up on his mailing list?

this may be the guy

Certainly has a few things going for him.

-Age (51 at time of hijacking)
-Military experience as a bomber pilot. Was even shot down and spent time in a POW camp
-Was from the Seattle area and appears to have lived most of his life there
-Spent 37 years as an engineer and manager at Boeing

One strike against him is that he appears to have been a pretty religious guy really dedicated to community service and humanitarian stuff. Doesn't come across as a criminal kind of guy.

Anyone heard more about the circumstances of this "find?"
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1802 on: May 24, 2017, 09:39:57 AM »
IMO, it's just another suspect with the same old similarities. he doesn't have to work for Boeing, he doesn't really have to live in the area to know things he spoke of during the hijacking. these things just give suspicion.

what if Cooper was not from the area, but a friend was that worked for Boeing? criminals are known to case the area they are going into, these are possibilities as well.

Derek is in a group with other suspects who all have the same similarities, and they strongly believe they know who Cooper is, or was. Weber, Christiansen, Rackstraw, LD Cooper. none of them can be placed anywhere near Portland.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1803 on: May 24, 2017, 09:47:28 AM »
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One strike against him is that he appears to have been a pretty religious guy really dedicated to community service and humanitarian stuff. Doesn't come across as a criminal kind of guy.

That's possible, but take a look at McCoy, he ruined his life with his stunt..McCoy taught Mormon Sunday school...decorated VietNam vet...studied to be in law enforcement...

Several of McCoy's accomplishments would of never been used to tie him to being a hijacker.

Sometimes the background can throw you off. that's why I believe it's only the start of the investigation. solid proof is needed. some of these people with suspects would turn on the electric chair in the second day of a trial that should of lasted 3 weeks   C:-)
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1804 on: May 24, 2017, 10:37:56 AM »
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IMO, it's just another suspect with the same old similarities. he doesn't have to work for Boeing, he doesn't really have to live in the area to know things he spoke of during the hijacking. these things just give suspicion.

what if Cooper was not from the area, but a friend was that worked for Boeing? criminals are known to case the area they are going into, these are possibilities as well.

Derek is in a group with other suspects who all have the same similarities, and they strongly believe they know who Cooper is, or was. Weber, Christiansen, Rackstraw, LD Cooper. none of them can be placed anywhere near Portland.

All very true. I was just wondering if there was any further context surrounding Derek "finding" this guy. What led him there? What made him believe he was Cooper other than simply being a decent suspect match? I took a hiatus from the Cooper world for a few months. But of course, it always draws you back in...
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1805 on: May 24, 2017, 10:42:51 AM »
This is definitely fascinating to look at. Old Textronix staff photos. It was posted as a reply on Martin Andrade's page about a month ago. You can see the names of most of these guys by clicking on the photo.

I didn't notice it posted on here anywhere so I apologize if it is already posted somewhere.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1806 on: May 24, 2017, 10:52:59 AM »
I'm sure Derek has a contact email, or something on his site...or look at his profile here..
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1807 on: May 26, 2017, 02:39:29 AM »
Derek has been busy touting James E. Klansnic as DB Cooper, and he is really digging into this guy. His youthful exuberance is sometimes problematic, as well. I've had to admonish him over at the Mountain News. But I've spoken with Derek on the phone because he is so dogged, and Klansnic does have some compelling aspect to his candidacy:

1. One, he knew the 727 fairly well, and held patents for the hydraulics, according to Derek. Also worked on the aft stairs. I keep meaning to ask Sailshaw if he knew Klansnic, but I know how Sail can get pretty cranky whenever the conversation drifts away from Petey.

2. Klansnic was stationed at Fort Lewis. Flew a B-17 in WWII. Jumped out at 26,000 feet through his bomb-bay door. Evaded the Wehrmacht for a night.

3. Had a grudge: got laid off from the SST project.

4. When he died a few years back, his family asked for donations in lieu of flowers, and requested that the moolah to be donated to the Carmelites in Eugene. Sound familiar????

Derek has another aspect to his personality that I find compelling. He fell into his investigation while reading an old issue of "Hydraulics Today" or some such tech mag. He read about Klansnic, became fascinated, and then when he felt he had found DBC he started to weep. That's my kind of guy!

Like with John Rollins and his investigation. Something at the gut level is going on. Perhaps something deeper. Something psychic, something spiritual.

Now, please know that if I had to witness Jo Weber crying over Duane, I'd just figure that she needed adjust her meds or something.

Speaking of the psychic, most of you poo-poo-ed the inclusion of my remote viewing exercises in my DBC book, but I got a very heartfelt email from a reader who was very grateful that I had written it. It confirmed and affirmed for him the value of that kind of communicative process, which has been an important part of his life and in his family's interactions. Apparently he received a very important message from a loved one in the Ukraine.

Bottom Line: If it gets ya through the night, it's alright.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1808 on: May 26, 2017, 03:24:26 AM »
Klansnic was a family man. It should be a simple matter to ask the family if there was a Thanksgiving in the early 1970's where he was inexplicably gone the night before the holiday, and suddenly appeared on Thanksgiving day barefoot, maybe with a limp or a non-descript bag of money.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1809 on: May 26, 2017, 03:33:23 AM »
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Klansnic was a family man. It should be a simple matter to ask the family if there was a Thanksgiving in the early 1970's where he was inexplicably gone the night before the holiday, and suddenly appeared on Thanksgiving day barefoot, maybe with a limp or a non-descript bag of money.

Or Cuban cigars and a thank you note from Fidel !?  I can see right now this is going to get Smith a free trip to Disney World.  O0
 

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« Reply #1810 on: May 26, 2017, 03:36:49 AM »
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Klansnic was a family man. It should be a simple matter to ask the family if there was a Thanksgiving in the early 1970's where he was inexplicably gone the night before the holiday, and suddenly appeared on Thanksgiving day barefoot, maybe with a limp or a non-descript bag of money.

I think a lady, whose name I can't remember, already has a copyright on that version of the story.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1811 on: May 26, 2017, 10:51:03 AM »
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Derek has been busy touting James E. Klansnic as DB Cooper, and he is really digging into this guy. His youthful exuberance is sometimes problematic, as well. I've had to admonish him over at the Mountain News. But I've spoken with Derek on the phone because he is so dogged, and Klansnic does have some compelling aspect to his candidacy:

1. One, he knew the 727 fairly well, and held patents for the hydraulics, according to Derek. Also worked on the aft stairs. I keep meaning to ask Sailshaw if he knew Klansnic, but I know how Sail can get pretty cranky whenever the conversation drifts away from Petey.

2. Klansnic was stationed at Fort Lewis. Flew a B-17 in WWII. Jumped out at 26,000 feet through his bomb-bay door. Evaded the Wehrmacht for a night.

3. Had a grudge: got laid off from the SST project.

4. When he died a few years back, his family asked for donations in lieu of flowers, and requested that the moolah to be donated to the Carmelites in Eugene. Sound familiar????

Derek has another aspect to his personality that I find compelling. He fell into his investigation while reading an old issue of "Hydraulics Today" or some such tech mag. He read about Klansnic, became fascinated, and then when he felt he had found DBC he started to weep. That's my kind of guy!

Like with John Rollins and his investigation. Something at the gut level is going on. Perhaps something deeper. Something psychic, something spiritual.

Now, please know that if I had to witness Jo Weber crying over Duane, I'd just figure that she needed adjust her meds or something.

Speaking of the psychic, most of you poo-poo-ed the inclusion of my remote viewing exercises in my DBC book, but I got a very heartfelt email from a reader who was very grateful that I had written it. It confirmed and affirmed for him the value of that kind of communicative process, which has been an important part of his life and in his family's interactions. Apparently he received a very important message from a loved one in the Ukraine.

Bottom Line: If it gets ya through the night, it's alright.

Regarding the donation request, this obituary of him says to send donations to Camp Brotherhood in Washington. No such mention of the Carmelites of Eugene. Any idea where Derek found otherwise?

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1812 on: May 26, 2017, 12:55:49 PM »
Bruce wrote: "Speaking of the psychic, most of you poo-poo-ed the inclusion of my remote viewing exercises in my DBC book, but I got a very heartfelt email from a reader who was very grateful that I had written it. It confirmed and affirmed for him the value of that kind of communicative process, which has been an important part of his life and in his family's interactions. Apparently he received a very important message from a loved one in the Ukraine. Bottom Line: If it gets ya through the night, it's alright."

Remote viewing is a fantasy. But I can't say I dislike all fantasies.  ;)

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« Reply #1813 on: May 26, 2017, 12:58:56 PM »
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I'd venture to say that Mr. Klansnic knew a lot about flaps!

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1814 on: May 26, 2017, 01:02:04 PM »
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Klansnic was a family man. It should be a simple matter to ask the family if there was a Thanksgiving in the early 1970's where he was inexplicably gone the night before the holiday, and suddenly appeared on Thanksgiving day barefoot, maybe with a limp or a non-descript bag of money.

Impersonating LD Cooper?  ;)

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