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Also, there appears to be no record of KC ever jumping during deployment.  He might have been trained during WW2, but lots of personnel were trained who never deployed.  Additionally, KC's jumps were all static line jumps, a far different kind of exit from that of DBC.   As for Mr. Blevins, I think Georger has his number.   Georger has pulled-apart the KC myth that Blevins is desperately trying to hang onto.  The FBI knows its all bullshit.  I think Georger has pulled the final stop on Blevins, although Blevins will try a bit more.  He has nothing else to do with his life.  And that is painfully obvious.

That seems quite possible.  Reading Kenny's discharge (which was posted here) shows Kenny was deployed overseas on August 15, 1945, which coincides almost exactly with VJ Day.  The form also shows a medal for parachute jumping, but that could be training in prep for a possible Pacific invasion which never happened.

Just finished reading Bruce's interview with you and Sail. Questions:

After listening to an hour or more of the flight transmissions from 305, was there anything that stood out to you - anything about Cooper, anything about how the hijacking was being handled, ... ?

As far as you are concerned how big a 'secret' was it that the 727 could be jumped via the rear stairs? Do you really think knowing or realising that vulnerability required insider information or skills at the time?

What do you think about the Bohan report?

What was the scuttlebutt about the hijacking and Cooper after the fact, that you overheard? Anything noteworthy that you can recall?

 

 

My overall opinion of Don Bennett is that everything he says has to be taken with a grain of salt.  He just has too many stories.  Plus, he seems to be an active alcoholic; hence, stories take precedence over anything else.

As for secrets at Boeing, I think they did a thorough job of keeping their secret 727 tests confidential.  Maybe Bennett heard rumors, maybe not.

I asked Don about the tone and nature of the 305 transmissions and he was ambivalent.  I suspect that he was BS-ing us.  Plus, he described himself being on an USAF training mission, not a Boeing gig.  Inconsistencies like this peppered his commentaries.

I think the Bohan report is highly suspect.  Don does, too.

Don didn't offer any opinion on DB Cooper even though I asked him.  My query was lot in a barrage of conversation and story-telling.

Uhhh, not to put too fine a point on it but I asked Don. Not you! Are you an ex-Boeing test pilot?

When I have a question about UFOs and MKULTRA MALDUM FORNAX I will ask you or AmmoZon or the other one...

Barada nikto Gort.

Georger,
Did you direct the question to me?  Don's not on this site and I'm not related to him, nor do I know him.

Yes Mark, sorry. I have a horrendous cold and can't think straight - (the weather here has been horrendous for
weeks, very cold... I finally have succumbed). The question was for you.

Ok, getting back to KC. can we conclude that it's possible that Lyle orchestrated the whole thing, possibly influencing the people Blevins spoke with? Carolyn Powell seems to have been deceptive twice. once claiming her boyfriend was arrested for attempted murder (exaggerated) and then by stating KC bought his house for cash. how much weight can you put on these people. then some 40 years later than can remember distinctively that KC stopped wearing a hair piece soon after the crime, and, ID'd a tie clip, but not the tie 40 + years later.

I couldn't tell you what type of jewelry my mom had 30/40 years ago, didn't everyone snoop around mom & dads room when they were away? my mom obviously had wigs. she had a wig box in the closet, but had other things in place of the wig itself. KC wore a black tie while at work. we have documentation of this. does this make it sound more convincing not to ID everything? If we can confirm the radio program did get Lyle to admit it was all BS. you have plenty of reason to believe a conspiracy happened. there is nothing that points to KC being anything other than a long time employee of Northwest airlines. we also have two different stories about the money find. one happened in the 90's, the other story is from the 2000's after the entire property was excavated (see photo) it's very possible someone stretched the truth about the time frame of when any type of money was found.


Again, this is fair questions about the suspect, not about trashing the person claiming all of this. it's not a court hearing where he has to be present.

 Anything about KC and those involved in that debacle is dead horse, as far as Im concerned. Gray and Porteous collaborated with Gray writing the first article on Kenny. Porteous contacts Blevins for a "movie script" with every intention of doubling promotions (lead to the Decoded episode) but Gray for some reason is suddenly cut out of the loop. It's now Porteous and Blevins and Lyle on their own project. Evidently there were hard feelings on Gray's part; Gray expressed this to several people which is documented. Lyle, Blev, and Porteous shared the same goal - a movie and big bucks. Blev joins Dropzone to become a part of Cooperland (the Cooper Royalty, as Blev calls it) and immediately tangles with Sluggo, Snowmman, and others. The goal again is a movie, by any means, and we have seen that unfold over four long years under the Moderation of 'writer and former Disney Productions editor', Paul Quade!

It literally is a cartoon. And as Geoff calls it: "A pit of vipers".

Is Lyle behind it all? No. He could not possibly be. I think Lyle is just riding the wave and Blevins and Porteous are still in full control, in spite of what others  contend.  Any pretense that all of this is about the actual/factual life of one Kenneth Christiansen or that he actually DB Cooper, went out the window over three years ago, when it became clear Blevins was making this up out of whole cloth and traded discussion and research for personal attacks on anyone and everyone in his path.  He even alluded or claimed to have support in very high places, which turned out to be bald faced lies – eg. “Ive reviewed the Palmer report sent me by the Palmer family”.

Will the scheme work? Time will tell … if it’s worth people’s time following all of these machinations which have absolutely nothing to do with the DB Cooper case!

 

He thinks that DZ is the holy Grail. to me it's old school. I'm an old school guy, but with a twist. he thinks when he see's 3,000 views on a comment, it's 3,000 views outside the thread. in reality, it's mainly the members looking in, not the public. they would turn there heads years ago on the thread.

I'm going to contact the station and see what proof we can get to help get a grip on what is really going on in the KC story.

Things like Dropzone thrive off a deeper problem - the lack of hard information about the DB Cooper case. Likewise the lack of leadership (civilian or FBI) to provide hard info and guidance. I guess that's why there are History Depts in Universities and at places like the Smithsonian, etc. I suggested years ago to Ckret that the Smithsonian be put in charge of the DB Cooper case!  I got no response.

Georger says:
 Anything about KC and those involved in that debacle is dead horse, as far as Im concerned. Gray and Porteous collaborated with Gray writing the first article on Kenny. Porteous contacts Blevins for a "movie script" with every intention of doubling promotions (lead to the Decoded episode) but Gray for some reason is suddenly cut out of the loop. It's now Porteous and Blevins and Lyle on their own project. Evidently there were hard feelings on Gray's part; Gray expressed this to several people which is documented. Lyle, Blev, and Porteous shared the same goal - a movie and big bucks. Blev joins Dropzone to become a part of Cooperland (the Cooper Royalty, as Blev calls it) and immediately tangles with Sluggo, Snowmman, and others. The goal again is a movie, by any means, and we have seen that unfold over four long years under the Moderation of 'writer and former Disney Productions editor', Paul Quade!

It literally is a cartoon. And as Geoff calls it: "A pit of vipers".

Is Lyle behind it all? No. He could not possibly be. I think Lyle is just riding the wave and Blevins and Porteous are still in full control, in spite of what others  contend.  Any pretense that all of this is about the actual/factual life of one Kenneth Christiansen or that he actually DB Cooper, went out the window over three years ago, when it became clear Blevins was making this up out of whole cloth and traded discussion and research for personal attacks on anyone and everyone in his path.  He even alluded or claimed to have support in very high places, which turned out to be bald faced lies – eg. “Ive reviewed the Palmer report sent me by the Palmer family”.

Will the scheme work? Time will tell … if it’s worth people’s time following all of these machinations which have absolutely nothing to do with the DB Cooper case!


Bruce says:
I think you've nailed it, Georger. 

Georger says:
 Anything about KC and those involved in that debacle is dead horse, as far as Im concerned. Gray and Porteous collaborated with Gray writing the first article on Kenny. Porteous contacts Blevins for a "movie script" with every intention of doubling promotions (lead to the Decoded episode) but Gray for some reason is suddenly cut out of the loop. It's now Porteous and Blevins and Lyle on their own project. Evidently there were hard feelings on Gray's part; Gray expressed this to several people which is documented. Lyle, Blev, and Porteous shared the same goal - a movie and big bucks. Blev joins Dropzone to become a part of Cooperland (the Cooper Royalty, as Blev calls it) and immediately tangles with Sluggo, Snowmman, and others. The goal again is a movie, by any means, and we have seen that unfold over four long years under the Moderation of 'writer and former Disney Productions editor', Paul Quade!

It literally is a cartoon. And as Geoff calls it: "A pit of vipers".

Is Lyle behind it all? No. He could not possibly be. I think Lyle is just riding the wave and Blevins and Porteous are still in full control, in spite of what others  contend.  Any pretense that all of this is about the actual/factual life of one Kenneth Christiansen or that he actually DB Cooper, went out the window over three years ago, when it became clear Blevins was making this up out of whole cloth and traded discussion and research for personal attacks on anyone and everyone in his path.  He even alluded or claimed to have support in very high places, which turned out to be bald faced lies – eg. “Ive reviewed the Palmer report sent me by the Palmer family”.

Will the scheme work? Time will tell … if it’s worth people’s time following all of these machinations which have absolutely nothing to do with the DB Cooper case!

Bruce says:
I think you've nailed it, Georger. 

I would love to see those lab reports on the seats, as I'm sure would Tom and others. I should have pressed Ckret about this when I had the chance. Oh well . . .

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someone want to contact Gray and see if he will discuss his views about KC? he only gives short responses to me, or is that typical of Gray?

I will give you his tele numbers, or Galen can if he has them. Your choice but it's worth a try. I frankly dont have the faintest idea what he would say if he agrees to speak. I wont even speculate on this but the numbers are yours if you want them ... but for your eyes only. It’s worth a try – your call…

I'll give it a shot. I don't know how much trust he has in me. I've spoken with him (email) about Marla, Paul, and a few other subjects. I sent him this link, well the old one, he never responded back. I would always get a reply within an hour or two...

He thinks that DZ is the holy Grail. to me it's old school. I'm an old school guy, but with a twist. he thinks when he see's 3,000 views on a comment, it's 3,000 views outside the thread. in reality, it's mainly the members looking in, not the public. they would turn there heads years ago on the thread.

I'm going to contact the station and see what proof we can get to help get a grip on what is really going on in the KC story.

SHUTTER:    Why do you keep mentioning KC as he does not fit the identification of DB Cooper ? KC is way too short at 5 ft 8 in and DB is 6 ft tall. You are doing the same thing as Blevins by even mentioning KC as he does not fit the crime and promoting KC as a suspect only promotes Blevins Book which does not fit the Cooper case either.

Bob Sailshaw
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