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Found evidence that my "foreign suspect" spent time in the Seattle area around 1966, that timeframe matches the evidence for the tie. The two labels on the tie put a date of manufacture around 1965 +/- 6 months..  The Penny's tie was not available outside the US at that time..

For the hijacker to be a foreigner they would have had to have been in the US to obtain the Penny's tie around 1965/66. (there are some minor exceptions)

foreigner from where?

I knew he was travelling in western Canada in 1966, but now have evidence that he went down to Seattle, not uncommon for people to do, add a US leg..

The timing is critical as it lines up with the manufacture/sale date for the Penny's tie.

Penny's didn't sell that tie in Canada and expanded out of US many years later. For the hijacker to be a foreigner and obtain the tie around 1965/66 he had to have been in the US.. (unless it was a gift or something) Generally, the US only Penny's tie has always been a hurdle for the foreigner theory and now that we have established the tie manufacture date around 1965 it makes it even tougher. A foreigner would have had to have been in the US around 1965/66 to obtain the tie and again in 1971 for the hijacking.

I just received a suspect photo in the mail purporting to be from late 1960's, might be mid sixties but a dead ringer for the suspect sketch even the clothes are an exact match and I just realized that in the stuff sent to me, I have a recording of his voice, deep, smooth pleasant/polite.. but in French. I also found evidence that he knew at least 3 languages.. pic of him in parachute, WW2, 95% of tie particles match and much more..

If we could ever get a witness to look at the pic and listen to the voice and they recognize it, the FBI would be convinced to do a DNA comp from the book sample I obtained from Quebec.

Only way to get a solve is put a suspect on the plane. Only way to put him on the plane is DNA/prints..

Just found out my "foreign suspect" was in a heated dispute with his long term "employer" and fired/left around the time of the hijacking.. don't know exact date but he didn't have a 9-5 type job..

Keep the info coming Flyjack,for I'm fascinated.  How did you stumble upon your suspect???

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Found evidence that my "foreign suspect" spent time in the Seattle area around 1966, that timeframe matches the evidence for the tie. The two labels on the tie put a date of manufacture around 1965 +/- 6 months..  The Penny's tie was not available outside the US at that time..

For the hijacker to be a foreigner they would have had to have been in the US to obtain the Penny's tie around 1965/66. (there are some minor exceptions)

foreigner from where?

I knew he was travelling in western Canada in 1966, but now have evidence that he went down to Seattle, not uncommon for people to do, add a US leg..

The timing is critical as it lines up with the manufacture/sale date for the Penny's tie.

Penny's didn't sell that tie in Canada and expanded out of US many years later. For the hijacker to be a foreigner and obtain the tie around 1965/66 he had to have been in the US.. (unless it was a gift or something) Generally, the US only Penny's tie has always been a hurdle for the foreigner theory and now that we have established the tie manufacture date around 1965 it makes it even tougher. A foreigner would have had to have been in the US around 1965/66 to obtain the tie and again in 1971 for the hijacking.

I just received a suspect photo in the mail purporting to be from late 1960's, might be mid sixties but a dead ringer for the suspect sketch even the clothes are an exact match and I just realized that in the stuff sent to me, I have a recording of his voice, deep, smooth pleasant/polite.. but in French. I also found evidence that he knew at least 3 languages.. pic of him in parachute, WW2, 95% of tie particles match and much more..

If we could ever get a witness to look at the pic and listen to the voice and they recognize it, the FBI would be convinced to do a DNA comp from the book sample I obtained from Quebec.

Only way to get a solve is put a suspect on the plane. Only way to put him on the plane is DNA/prints..

Just found out my "foreign suspect" was in a heated dispute with his long term "employer" and fired/left around the time of the hijacking.. don't know exact date but he didn't have a 9-5 type job..

I think I see where you're going with this?

Were the Ingrams in Tintin?

Which one is Brian?

Can't sort this out for you, just yet..  this forum is too public, it is very simple and all makes perfect sense.

I now have over 50 pieces of circumstantial evidence plus DNA.. all the pieces together make a very strong circumstantial case, but only DNA gets a true solve.

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Found evidence that my "foreign suspect" spent time in the Seattle area around 1966, that timeframe matches the evidence for the tie. The two labels on the tie put a date of manufacture around 1965 +/- 6 months..  The Penny's tie was not available outside the US at that time..

For the hijacker to be a foreigner they would have had to have been in the US to obtain the Penny's tie around 1965/66. (there are some minor exceptions)

foreigner from where?

I knew he was travelling in western Canada in 1966, but now have evidence that he went down to Seattle, not uncommon for people to do, add a US leg..

The timing is critical as it lines up with the manufacture/sale date for the Penny's tie.

Penny's didn't sell that tie in Canada and expanded out of US many years later. For the hijacker to be a foreigner and obtain the tie around 1965/66 he had to have been in the US.. (unless it was a gift or something) Generally, the US only Penny's tie has always been a hurdle for the foreigner theory and now that we have established the tie manufacture date around 1965 it makes it even tougher. A foreigner would have had to have been in the US around 1965/66 to obtain the tie and again in 1971 for the hijacking.

I just received a suspect photo in the mail purporting to be from late 1960's, might be mid sixties but a dead ringer for the suspect sketch even the clothes are an exact match and I just realized that in the stuff sent to me, I have a recording of his voice, deep, smooth pleasant/polite.. but in French. I also found evidence that he knew at least 3 languages.. pic of him in parachute, WW2, 95% of tie particles match and much more..

If we could ever get a witness to look at the pic and listen to the voice and they recognize it, the FBI would be convinced to do a DNA comp from the book sample I obtained from Quebec.

Only way to get a solve is put a suspect on the plane. Only way to put him on the plane is DNA/prints..

Just found out my "foreign suspect" was in a heated dispute with his long term "employer" and fired/left around the time of the hijacking.. don't know exact date but he didn't have a 9-5 type job..

I think I see where you're going with this?

Were the Ingrams in Tintin?

Which one is Brian?

Can't sort this out for you, just yet..  this forum is too public, it is very simple and all makes perfect sense.

I now have over 50 pieces of circumstantial evidence plus DNA.. all the pieces together make a very strong circumstantial case, but only DNA gets a true solve.

The center of Tintin publishing was in Belgium? The Weinbergs were in Belgium? The tie label is circa '65-66? (Why didn't Tom come up with that? Will Kaye dispute that?) Can dna be obtained which follows protocols?  Do you want dna processed in Belgium or the USA?

good points, Tintin being French was distributed throughout Francophone Canada. I did inform Kaye about evidence "dating" the tie 1965/66, he liked it.. IMO, it is more significant than people realize, not just for my suspect but in the case generally. Tie was purchased in the US and worn for about 5/6 years.

DNA check is doable for a solve but not for a prosecution.. FBI admitted that their test results won't work in court, 14 profiles, but if my/any suspect matches one of those, it is a public solve, not a legal one.

IMO, a prosecution is not an option any longer but a solve is.. (assuming this is the guy)

Problem is pulling together the circumstantial case and getting the FBI to compare DNA now that they have "closed" the case, chances are slim to none so a possible plan B is a full public disclosure of all my evidence and that would be explosive news..

I really want to tell you guys more, but I feel it may be detrimental to a solve at this point, but it will all be made public.. 

Individually, the 50+ pieces of circumstantial evidence don't make much of a case, but in their totality it is very compelling. The odds of all these things lining up by mere coincidence is very slim.

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Found evidence that my "foreign suspect" spent time in the Seattle area around 1966, that timeframe matches the evidence for the tie. The two labels on the tie put a date of manufacture around 1965 +/- 6 months..  The Penny's tie was not available outside the US at that time..

For the hijacker to be a foreigner they would have had to have been in the US to obtain the Penny's tie around 1965/66. (there are some minor exceptions)

foreigner from where?

I knew he was travelling in western Canada in 1966, but now have evidence that he went down to Seattle, not uncommon for people to do, add a US leg..

The timing is critical as it lines up with the manufacture/sale date for the Penny's tie.

Penny's didn't sell that tie in Canada and expanded out of US many years later. For the hijacker to be a foreigner and obtain the tie around 1965/66 he had to have been in the US.. (unless it was a gift or something) Generally, the US only Penny's tie has always been a hurdle for the foreigner theory and now that we have established the tie manufacture date around 1965 it makes it even tougher. A foreigner would have had to have been in the US around 1965/66 to obtain the tie and again in 1971 for the hijacking.

I just received a suspect photo in the mail purporting to be from late 1960's, might be mid sixties but a dead ringer for the suspect sketch even the clothes are an exact match and I just realized that in the stuff sent to me, I have a recording of his voice, deep, smooth pleasant/polite.. but in French. I also found evidence that he knew at least 3 languages.. pic of him in parachute, WW2, 95% of tie particles match and much more..

If we could ever get a witness to look at the pic and listen to the voice and they recognize it, the FBI would be convinced to do a DNA comp from the book sample I obtained from Quebec.

Only way to get a solve is put a suspect on the plane. Only way to put him on the plane is DNA/prints..

Just found out my "foreign suspect" was in a heated dispute with his long term "employer" and fired/left around the time of the hijacking.. don't know exact date but he didn't have a 9-5 type job..

I think I see where you're going with this?

Were the Ingrams in Tintin?

Which one is Brian?

Can't sort this out for you, just yet..  this forum is too public, it is very simple and all makes perfect sense.

I now have over 50 pieces of circumstantial evidence plus DNA.. all the pieces together make a very strong circumstantial case, but only DNA gets a true solve.

The center of Tintin publishing was in Belgium? The Weinbergs were in Belgium? The tie label is circa '65-66? (Why didn't Tom come up with that? Will Kaye dispute that?) Can dna be obtained which follows protocols?  Do you want dna processed in Belgium or the USA?

good points, Tintin being French was distributed throughout Francophone Canada. I did inform Kaye about evidence "dating" the tie 1965/66, he liked it.. IMO, it is more significant than people realize, not just for my suspect but in the case generally. Tie was purchased in the US and worn for about 5/6 years.

DNA check is doable for a solve but not for a prosecution.. FBI admitted that their test results won't work in court, 14 profiles, but if my/any suspect matches one of those, it is a public solve, not a legal one.

IMO, a prosecution is not an option any longer but a solve is.. (assuming this is the guy)

Problem is pulling together the circumstantial case and getting the FBI to compare DNA now that they have "closed" the case, chances are slim to none so a possible plan B is a full public disclosure of all my evidence and that would be explosive news..

I really want to tell you guys more, but I feel it may be detrimental to a solve at this point, but it will all be made public.. 

Individually, the 50+ pieces of circumstantial evidence don't make much of a case, but in their totality it is very compelling. The odds of all these things lining up by mere coincidence is very slim.

No doubt about it - knowing the label dates to 65/66 is valuable evidence. That was missed before so congrats!

As for the rest this goes back to Dropzone. Some of us discussed this then. Carr came on board and got curious and went to see Mr X etal; at least I think Carr said he was going to make the trip and talked a little about it later. The rest is all Dark Side of the Moon stuff only Carr knows. But, its not like the connections werent made and some did look into this. Snowmman? How far did he venture into this?

I dont see the physical connection but I could be wrong? Does a physical profile match up? Latin in appearance ?

And how in hell would money get to Tina Bar !!! That's one big question...

Please continue .... we will give you space, at least I will.     

The dates and contents of the publications have to line up ... thats one chain of evidence.

As for dna evidence dont close the door yet ... but ... you cant prosecute a dead man in any event! 

The comic discussion back on Dropzone doesn't really apply.. I can confirm that 2 distinct Dan Cooper comic stories have some relevance and both were published prior to the hijacking. I know sounds bizarre..

TBAR doesn't play a role here, the only assumption is that he hijacker survived. Flightpath isn't relevant.

My opinion, the hijacker jumped with the plane on the FBI flightpath and lost some of the money in the stairway descent tied up in a piece of parachute/in briefcase and it fell into the Columbia River minutes later then a float to TBAR. This isn't part of my evidence just speculation. we'll never know

a few points,

photo sent to me purported circa 1968 is a ringer for the hijacker composite sketch right down to the clothes..

age match, deep voice, turkey neck, glasses, a bit geeky, slight marcel hair, polite, not obviously latin appearance but hard to tell from B/W photo

have a few pics of him wearing a back parachute and flight-suit 1960's..  extensive high level airplane knowledge

all those rare earth particles on the tie match his environment (except the cp-Ti, maybe that got picked up on plane or?) always wore a tie

had dispute and separation from employer around time of hijacking..

and much more...

FLYJACK  Many thanks for posting the photo I found in the Boeing News file that was used to make the Boeing Skydiving Club Ad that Sheridan Peterson did  to attract new members to the Skydiving Club (and before Norjak). Notice he is dressed exactly as DB Cooper did, including white shirt, thin black tie, suit and loafers. He did a demo jump even dressed like this. The tie is not the snap on tie DB used but is the same style. His position in the photo is to show how a jumper might move his arms to manuver when skydiving. The photo was such high resolution I was unable to post it on the forum but thanks to FLYJAK it was reduced to be able to post. The Seattle FBI office did not have this photo as it was buried in the Boeing News files. Anyway, take a good look at this photo as it really is DB from my researching and he did lie to the FBI about where he was at Norjak time and why else would he lie if he was not DB Cooper.

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From what Bill told me, I think he probably saw well over a thousand photographs. Perhaps 1,500. He told me that the feds would come by once or twice a week and often brought 10-20 pix per visit.

That said, I find it curious that we know hardly anything on what Tina and Flo's experience was with the feds. How many pix did Tina see over the next year or two? How come no one ever discusses that? Himms, Tosaw, Calame, etc. Not even GG has commented on that aspect. BTW: I don't think GG ever spoke with Billy - at least Mitchell doesn't remember him at all.

Also, I wonder what might be in Farrell's book. I've got to get up to Seattle one of these days and track down Charlie's kids and see what they say about getting a peek at this valuable piece of history.

diclemeg:   You say " I just got done listening to Bill Mitchell's audio interview on the Washington St Historical Society website, where Mitchell states that the FBI, for a year and a half, would bring him for possible ID,  "at least 10 photos" of those from "Military Parachuting Clubs", "Parachuting Clubs", once or twice a week.
So doing the math, approxmating, thats 75 weeks, and lets say they came by only once a week.... that is 750 suspect photos he saw of those in parachuting club suspects.... odds that Peterson wasn't in one of those photos, in my opinion, was quite low."

I say:   "When I showed Bil Mitchell Sheridan's photo from Boeing News photo he had to admit that he could not say one way or the other as he was more interested in looking at Tina Mucklow. So his looking at all those from the FBI was useless as he could not remember what DB looked like."

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Good morning, Bob.

When I emailed Mitchell his response to me was much different from what he said to you. Even when Mark and I spoke with Bill Mitchell he told us he kept checking Cooper out as he was confused why this young stewardess spent all her time with this geeky looking old man with a turkey neck.

Here is Mitchell's email to me after he looked at my fathers' photos in October 2014.

"Hi Vicki,
I'm not ignoring you, I'm just been thinking and pondering my response. Again it was 43 years ago and I don't have the clear picture in my mind.  But I do remember my reaction to certain things. (as I told the FBI, I was a sophomore at University of Oregon and couldn't understand why this older guy was getting all the attention from the flight attendant!! I checked him out pretty well )
 
OK this is what I've come up with, On the plus side his cheeks, chin and neck looked more like what I thought he looked like.  I had always thought the composite drawing had his face to thin. That isn't much but that is best I can do." 

BOOM, I can confirm my foreign suspect was within 25 miles of the v23 flightpath prior to the hijacking.

Larry Carr has stated that he believes that the hijacker wanted a quick jump from the plane, but got delayed because the plane didn't take off with the stairs down and he couldn't get the stairs down in flight and the pilots had to slow down the plane. His LZ was delayed. I concur..

That means the hijackers desired LZ was much further North.. He must have scouted the area..

I have evidence that my FOREIGN suspect was within 25 miles of v23 just south of the first plot on the map prior to the hijacking. That is likely where the intended LZ would have been.

This would have to be an unbelievable co-incidence..

How long did Cooper spend with a parachute on and was still on the plane? How many hours start to finish?