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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1710 on: February 17, 2017, 11:16:22 PM »
LD is just as bad as Christiansen..the people involved with them are savvy to attention, or seek attention, and one constantly seeks approval...neither are "viable suspects" as the FBI has stated. the same for good old Duane Weber who has been around for decades...the FBI has looked at these suspects, you can be sure the people involved with the crime have seen these guys, and yet (sound of crickets)

The FBI stated they have no viable leads, so it puts a nail in the coffin, but they keep going...some of the suspects out there have a lower profile with the media vs what is above...Melvin Wilson, Lepsy, Peterson etc..
 

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« Reply #1711 on: February 18, 2017, 12:11:39 AM »
To clarify some of the suspects are not being presented as Just being Cooper, Wilson, and Lepsy are both missing and possibly could be Cooper..they are looking into other avenues as well while the others will state they are Cooper...
 

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« Reply #1712 on: February 19, 2017, 10:28:03 PM »
A bit more to add to my Gossett story, also a bit of a mystery.  I had dinner with my pilot friend tonight and told him that I had posted the photo he sent me of Mort Gossett.  He said he had pulled it off the 'net so that was my mistake, I though it was in an album of his.  Anyway he said he had read up on William Gossett and doesn't think he and Mort are the same person, doesn't think Mort was military.  But everyone around still thought Mort was Cooper.  Mort was a sport skydiver.  Then he said Mort's brother (first name unknown) was military, jumped out of 727s and was part of the real Air America story (I had to ask what that was, new to me).  This would be second hand info, I don't think my friend every met the brother, or if he did Mort was still the guy everyone thought was Cooper.

So perhaps Mort and William Gossett are brothers.  Maybe someone with the Ancestry website can check.  A collaboration between the two?  Mort worked the PNW corridor, whatever type of flying he was doing (firebombers likely, that's what my friend was doing at the time).  I know all this sounds out there but there is a Mort Gossett, he had a brother, both were skydivers, and there is a William Gossett.  Lastly perhaps the Cook fellow who is writing the book already knows all this...
 

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« Reply #1713 on: February 19, 2017, 10:39:14 PM »
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A bit more to add to my Gossett story, also a bit of a mystery.  I had dinner with my pilot friend tonight and told him that I had posted the photo he sent me of Mort Gossett.  He said he had pulled it off the 'net so that was my mistake, I though it was in an album of his.  Anyway he said he had read up on William Gossett and doesn't think he and Mort are the same person, doesn't think Mort was military.  But everyone around still thought Mort was Cooper.  Mort was a sport skydiver.  Then he said Mort's brother (first name unknown) was military, jumped out of 727s and was part of the real Air America story (I had to ask what that was, new to me).  This would be second hand info, I don't think my friend every met the brother, or if he did Mort was still the guy everyone thought was Cooper.

So perhaps Mort and William Gossett are brothers.  Maybe someone with the Ancestry website can check.  A collaboration between the two?  Mort worked the PNW corridor, whatever type of flying he was doing (firebombers likely, that's what my friend was doing at the time).  I know all this sounds out there but there is a Mort Gossett, he had a brother, both were skydivers, and there is a William Gossett.  Lastly perhaps the Cook fellow who is writing the book already knows all this...

So I took a shot and searched for Mort Gossett. I found a Facebook page, but no profile picture.
This information is on his Facebook introduction:
Worked at Retired Pilot
Studied at Oregon State University
Went to Crater High School-central point,ore
Lives in Eagle Point, Oregon
From Eagle Point, Oregon

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« Reply #1714 on: February 19, 2017, 10:48:15 PM »
If you Google Mort Gossett, it brings back a newspaper article about skydivers from 1961.  You have to pay to read it.

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« Reply #1715 on: February 19, 2017, 11:10:49 PM »
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If you Google Mort Gossett, it brings back a newspaper article about skydivers from 1961.  You have to pay to read it.

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I did see that article, but stopped when it said there was a fee to see. :(
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« Reply #1716 on: February 19, 2017, 11:16:37 PM »
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A bit more to add to my Gossett story, also a bit of a mystery.  I had dinner with my pilot friend tonight and told him that I had posted the photo he sent me of Mort Gossett.  He said he had pulled it off the 'net so that was my mistake, I though it was in an album of his.  Anyway he said he had read up on William Gossett and doesn't think he and Mort are the same person, doesn't think Mort was military.  But everyone around still thought Mort was Cooper.  Mort was a sport skydiver.  Then he said Mort's brother (first name unknown) was military, jumped out of 727s and was part of the real Air America story (I had to ask what that was, new to me).  This would be second hand info, I don't think my friend every met the brother, or if he did Mort was still the guy everyone thought was Cooper.

So perhaps Mort and William Gossett are brothers.  Maybe someone with the Ancestry website can check.  A collaboration between the two?  Mort worked the PNW corridor, whatever type of flying he was doing (firebombers likely, that's what my friend was doing at the time).  I know all this sounds out there but there is a Mort Gossett, he had a brother, both were skydivers, and there is a William Gossett.  Lastly perhaps the Cook fellow who is writing the book already knows all this...

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Here is information on William Gossett's "Find a Grave".

Unless Mort was a nickname, his brothers are named Orien and Daniel.
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« Reply #1717 on: February 19, 2017, 11:20:35 PM »
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A bit more to add to my Gossett story, also a bit of a mystery.  I had dinner with my pilot friend tonight and told him that I had posted the photo he sent me of Mort Gossett.  He said he had pulled it off the 'net so that was my mistake, I though it was in an album of his.  Anyway he said he had read up on William Gossett and doesn't think he and Mort are the same person, doesn't think Mort was military.  But everyone around still thought Mort was Cooper.  Mort was a sport skydiver.  Then he said Mort's brother (first name unknown) was military, jumped out of 727s and was part of the real Air America story (I had to ask what that was, new to me).  This would be second hand info, I don't think my friend every met the brother, or if he did Mort was still the guy everyone thought was Cooper.

So perhaps Mort and William Gossett are brothers.  Maybe someone with the Ancestry website can check.  A collaboration between the two?  Mort worked the PNW corridor, whatever type of flying he was doing (firebombers likely, that's what my friend was doing at the time).  I know all this sounds out there but there is a Mort Gossett, he had a brother, both were skydivers, and there is a William Gossett.  Lastly perhaps the Cook fellow who is writing the book already knows all this...

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Here is information on William Gossett's "Find a Grave".

Unless Mort was a nickname, his brothers are named Orien and Daniel.

So is Mort Gossett = William P. Gossett ?  Why all these gossett(s) .... and gussetts?  :))
 

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« Reply #1718 on: February 19, 2017, 11:33:04 PM »
So is Mort Gossett = William P. Gossett ?

Well if William has a grave stone and Mort a Facebook page, likely not.

Pretty confusing.  Two pilot/skydivers named Gossett both rumored to be Cooper.
 

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« Reply #1719 on: February 19, 2017, 11:37:32 PM »
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If you Google Mort Gossett, it brings back a newspaper article about skydivers from 1961.  You have to pay to read it.

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I did see that article, but stopped when it said there was a fee to see. :(

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« Reply #1720 on: February 20, 2017, 07:16:19 AM »
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Then he said Mort's brother (first name unknown) was military, jumped out of 727s and was part of the real Air America story (I had to ask what that was, new to me).  This would be second hand info, I don't think my friend every met the brother, or if he did Mort was still the guy everyone thought was Cooper.

Quoting myself, it seems Mort Gossett's brother is Owen "Lee" Gossett, also from Eagle Point, Oregon.  Here's an article describing his Air America involvement, smoke jumping, etc.. Lots more on Google.  Didn't find any connection to William Gossett but it's sure coincidental all these Oregonian Gossett pilot/skydivers, two at least rumored to be Cooper.

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« Reply #1721 on: February 20, 2017, 09:34:20 AM »
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If you Google Mort Gossett, it brings back a newspaper article about skydivers from 1961.  You have to pay to read it.

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No you don't have to pay read the OCR text,, MORTON Gossett is Lee Gossett's older brother by one year. (Morton Oliver Gossett)

"MEDFORD MAIL TRIBUNE, MAY 3, 1961 FaracSiute - Jumpiiig Craze Swegpsssg Country WAV v . 3 rxyt .i&EKSSSra READY FOR TAKE-OFF Three members of the Rogue Valley Sky Divers and their pilot prepare fop take-off at the Ashland airport prior to one of their recent parachute-jumps. While some people do it only in case of emergency, these men jump from airplanes for the fun of it. They are (left) pilot Ron Maxwell, Ashland; Mort Gossett, Eagle Point; Ed Logan, Central Point; and Dick Zediker, Talent. (Whitland Locke Photo) mERCURY OUTBOARD When the memhlr Vine mm. pleted his ground training he is then ready to try "static" jumping. This means that the rip-cord which opens the chute is automatically pulled upon leaving the airplane. Static jumps are made from a height of approximately 2,000 feet. When the new jumper has completed five successful static jumps, he is then ready for free-fall jumps. This means that he can pull his rip-cord at any time he pleases during his descent. Gossett said experienced jumpers sometimes go as high as 10,000 feet and over. Two Selected Spots The Rogue Valley S k y Divers do their jumping on Sunday afternoons at two selected spots in the valley-the Ashland airport and near the Old Stage rd. west of Central Point. They either rent airplanes or use one belonging to one of the members. When the sky-divers jump they usually aim for a large piece of canopy which has been placed on the ground. Parachutes are maneuvered by pulling on one side of the chute or the other during descent. Gossett said the club plans on having contests with other sky-diving groups in the Pacific northwest. He said he knows of similar clubs in Portland and Corvallis and in many other cities throughout the country. While sky-diving is attracting more and more converts all the . time, it would appear to be a safe bet that most sportsmen will continue to assert themselves in activities which are a little closer to terra firma. Sky diving is another example of the diversity of outdoor sports and activities that are available to residents of the Rogue valley. Thorough Watering Best for Gardens Irrigation is an important factor in the Rogue valley, whether for commercial purposes or for the homeowner. The two types of irrigation are frequent, light irrigation, and less frequent, thorough watering, according to Clifford B. Cordy, county agent. Thorough irrigation, one or two weeks apart, is best for most plants. More frequent irrigations are desirable for young plants. Cordy recommended applying one inch of water every five days during hot weather. The amount can be determined by placing a can midway in the sprinkled area until the water is one inch deep. Undcrwatering is common when sprinklers are used, he said. . Sky Divers Club In Vailey Trains All New Members With the advent of spring, a otrange breed of'mn called the Rogue Volley Sky Divers take to the air and drop slowly to the ground. These men have been caught up in a parachute-jumping craze which is currently sweeping the country. To the person who doesn't know what it's all about, parachute-jumping seems as insane and senseless as mountain-climbing. But, not to those who do it. To these dare-devil sportsmen, sky-diving makes just as much sense as fishing, playing baseball or water-skiing. Attracts Only A Few By its very nature; a skydiving club, like a mountain-climbing club, attracts only a few courageous souls. The current membership of the Rogue Valley Sky Divers is eight, all ,of whom are male and between the ags of 18 and 25. At first glance, sky-diving would seem to be a dangerous sport. But, in the three years that the Sky Divers have been jumping, there have been no serious accidents. ' The membership of the club is not limited. Lee Gossett, 22, of Eagle Point, who along with his brother Morton, 23, organized the group, said new members are always welcome. There is no cost to join, and the club will provide complete training before letting . you tumble from an airplane into the void of space. It will even help arrange for the purchase of an Air Force parachute and other needed equipment, such as a football helmet and heavy boots. Receives Ground Training Lee Gossett, who also jumps for a livelihood as a smoke-jumper for the forest service, says the new member receives two or three weeks of ground training prior to actual jumping. He points out that the greatest danger to the jumper is lack of proper training. Gossett, a licensed "rigger," or chute packer, is himself authorized to provide instruction. During ground training, the new member will see how a chute is packed and bow it works, in addition to learning how to operate it. He is also trained in landing and jumping procedures, and what measures can be taken in case of an emergency. Emergency Chute A jumper wears two parachutes-one on his back as his main chute, and one on his chest as an emergency chute. "
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"Medford, SECTION B MEDFORD, OREGON, SUNDAY. JULY 29. 1962 PAGES 1 to 8 f'W" CI x i -c" - 4yK ? ! t: Af hi n m w After landing in a grassy green field about six air miles norm of Medford, tne sKymver, dressed in full jumping auire, faces tne task of col lapsing his parachute and "field-packing" it, (Knackstedt photo) Skydivers Practice Safety in Jumping Candy-striped parachutes are easy for the ground observer to spot when watching members ol the Skydivers group make their jumps. A jumper may free fall down to 2.000 feet, at which time he must open his parachute. The jumpers sometimes fly to heights of 15,000 feet before leaving the plane. (Knackstedt photo) tram higher altitudes and begin competitive air maneuvers. When making jumps at over 2,000 feet the skydiver must be equipped with reliable instrument, an altimeter and stop watch. The safety of the skydiver la protected at all times. The club follows all rules of the Parachute club of America, national Jumping organization. Only regulation equipment is used. The jumper is provided with a reserve parachute, just in case the large one doesn't open. The reserve chutes are packed and inspected by Morton Gossett, and his brother, Lee Gossett, licensed riggers for the group. This must be done every 90 days. Other Jumping Equipment In addition, jumping equipment includes boots, Jump suit, helmet, gloves, goggles, and other protective equipment. Initial ' cost of equipment for the sport jumper usually runs about $110, including the cost of the parachute. The parachutes are 28 feet In diameter, and are made of durable nylon. The shroud lines are made of nylon. The parachutes are obtained from surplus government stock, and are usually dyed by the jumpers themselves. Modifications are made In the chutes for guidance purposes. These include gores, which can be used to determine direction, to make the parachutist stand still in the air, or to move him backward. Ready to Compete in Air As the skydivers attain proficiency, they are ready lo compete and practice air maneuvers. There are many of theses, usually accomplished during free fall time. Included are such exercises as rolls, figure eights, and the passing of a baton from one man to another. The maneuvers take place before the parachute Is is opened. After the parachute opens, the Jumpers may practice hitting a pre-marked target area. To do this, they must make use of the guidelines attached to the shroud lines of the chute. Not only do Ihe members of the grpup compete among themselves, but they also enter in competition with other groups around the country. When asked, they may also perform in exhibition Although the idea of falling through space Is alien to most people, the danger found in the sport is nearly eliminated through use of safety parachutes, safety training, and careful packing of regular parachutes. It is a sport filled with excitement, is colorful, and is excellent physical training for the men who By SANDRA ARANT Mail Tribune Staff Writer Parachute jumping, one of the fastest growing sports in the United States, requires top physical conditioning and stable nerves. Although many people are intrigued by the danger involved in jumping from an airplane from heights between 2,500 and 15,000 feet, this factor is secondary to members of the Skydivers, local jumping group. These men are interested in the competitive aspects of the sport. As an independent group, the Skydivers are in charge of training their members, packing their own parachutes, and maintaining their own safety factors. The club meets each Sunday morning, year round at Valley Aviation, Inc., at the Medford municipal airport. Although they jump most Sundays, during the hot summer months they may jump only every other Sunday. Medical Certificate Necessary Young men must be at least 18 years of age to participate in jumping activities, and each member must have a medical certificate from a qualified physician. A new skydivers must go through a ground train-ting period of at least four week ends before he is allowed in the plane. During this period he learns how lo fall, how to pack his parachute, and other information essential for the safety of the jumper. He is then taken for an orientation ride in the airplane. At this time he learns proper jumping position, how the jumper leaves the plane, and the general feel of the airplane. The new jumper is then ready for his first jump. He and two other men climb into the Cessna 182 piloted by Al Monroe, and fly to jumping level. On the first jump, made In a static line parachute, the jumper may leave the plane about 2,500 feet. Parachute Opens Automatically The static line parachute opens automatically when the man leaves the plane. The ripcord of the chute is attached to the plane by a nylon rope about five feet long. As the man jumps, the pull of the cord trips the rip-cord, then either breaks or slips the knot. The beginning jumper makes a minimum of five static line jumps. Out of these five, he must make at least three dummy ripcord pulls, developing the action he must use in free fall jumps. After the static line jumps, he is ready for his first free fall jump. As he gains in experience, he may jump State Parks Better Attended This Year Members of the Skydivers prepare to fly to a suitable height for jumping, as one of the group demonstrates the proper form for leaving the plane when in the air. The right hand door is removed to allow the men lu leave the plane easily. All four places in the plane are provided with safety belts, and for the man in the right front seal, there is a hold strap."
 

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« Reply #1723 on: February 20, 2017, 10:17:28 AM »
A couple of anecdotal notes my friend mentioned:  Sounds like the fire crew he and Mort were in was a fairly crazy bunch of guys, and Mort was the wildest of the bunch.  One night 5 of them were in a car partying, came to a stop sign, Mort reached over, turned the car off and threw the keys out the window into the bushes. 

Also, when confronted about being Cooper he never denied it (which I know is common among suspects).

If there is a connection between these three skydiving Gossetts it would make for a good conspiracy theory wouldn't it?  Would have asked for $300K though, 200 is harder to split 3 ways.   ;)


 

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« Reply #1724 on: February 20, 2017, 12:10:46 PM »
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If you Google Mort Gossett, it brings back a newspaper article about skydivers from 1961.  You have to pay to read it.

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I did see that article, but stopped when it said there was a fee to see. :(

Of course you did!

I have my money saved to pay the Dane County Sheriffs Department in Wisconsin. I have requested the file on the arrest and jail booking of Melvin Wilson from April 1971.
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