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Offline Check-Six

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1470 on: October 17, 2016, 11:14:18 PM »
The entire indictment would be an interesting read...
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1471 on: October 18, 2016, 07:27:38 AM »
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377 - Thanks for the pointer to the indictment. In digging a little deeper I found a copy of it. Pretty brief, but interesting reading.
Aeronaught-do you have a link to indictment, thanks
Not a link - it is imbedded in the FBI case file which is available at FBI.gov. I extracted it as a stand-alone document and can send it to you.

Thanks Aeronaught, I sent you an email request through forum.  Let me know if you got it, thanks

Thanks Aeonaught, I received your email with copy of indictment.  Didn't see anything in it regarding co-conspirators.  Does there exist another "John Doe" indictment for them or has the statute of limitations run out and they are free to talk now?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1472 on: October 18, 2016, 09:55:10 AM »
Any chance of sharing the full indictment with the masses? Not the half page snippet that is going around...
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1473 on: October 18, 2016, 10:31:36 AM »
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Any chance of sharing the full indictment with the masses? Not the half page snippet that is going around...

Sorry, that's all I have. If the indictment is not sealed it could be available on pacer.gov
 

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« Reply #1474 on: October 18, 2016, 01:16:22 PM »
Interesting that the image of the cover page of the John Doe indictment does not have a case number. That means the image is of an as yet unfiled draft. When you file, the US District Court clerk assigns a case number which then appears on all subsequent pleadings. Wouldn't it be a hoot if somehow the indictment was never actually filed and the statute had run?

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« Reply #1475 on: October 18, 2016, 02:34:01 PM »
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Interesting that the image of the cover page of the John Doe indictment does not have a case number. That means the image is of an as yet unfiled draft. When you file, the US District Court clerk assigns a case number which then appears on all subsequent pleadings. Wouldn't it be a hoot if somehow the indictment was never actually filed and the statute had run?

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Can it be determined for certain that there ever was a valid indictment without getting involved in a dust up?  If there was never a valid indictment, then it raises another big question mark on the whole original investigation.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1476 on: October 18, 2016, 02:50:53 PM »
I actually located the indictment number awhile back, and it carried two charges - which is why I'd like to see the whole thing, because I can't remember what the 2nd charge was exactly.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1477 on: October 18, 2016, 03:48:29 PM »
There it is: Oregon District Court, Case No. 3:76-CR-00229-MA

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1478 on: October 21, 2016, 04:17:56 PM »
Ted Braden Redux

Remember Ted? The SOG trooper who mysteriously left Vietnam in 1966 and later reappeared in the Congo, only to be arrested and shipped to Ft. Dix, and then five years later was widely rumored to have stolen an airplane...?

There is a fantastic new movie out that touches on Braden's experience in the Congo. "The Siege of Jadotville" is out on Netflix and it re-visits the five-day battle of resistance when a 155-man UN infantry company from the Irish Defence Force fought a 5,000 force of French mercs, local gendarmerie, and corporate "security" guys. Basically, the politics were extraordinarily mixed, with the UN getting played by many factions of groups who wanted to control the copper, cobalt and uranium mines in Katanga Province - a struggle that continues to this day. It was, and is, the central lynch-pin to the interminable civil war that rages in the Congo, and was what Braden was part of in the late 60s.

Another wonderful Netflix docu, "Viranga," gives the current story of struggle in central Africa.

I've later found out that my first girl friend was part of this early conflict, as she had to escape from the Congo in 1961 in the middle of the night as a ten-year old girl. Her father, it appears, was a CIA operative. They later relocated to Brussels. NATO? Belgian mining interests? After all Brussels is NATO HQ, but the Congo was once called the Belgian Congo and the white guys in Katanga were all Belgian.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1479 on: October 22, 2016, 06:33:35 PM »
Reference my reply 1468.

Whoops! I gave a bad reference to the location of the indictment. It is actually pages 23-25 of the FBI's file 6 of 7.

Thanks to Check-Six for pointing that out and posting the case number.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1480 on: October 23, 2016, 04:10:29 PM »
With all of the recent activity regarding Rackstraw, I for one believe Rackstraw is a very viable candidate, and I would be interested in collecting a list of potential co-conspirators associated with him. I believe the co-conspirators are his weak link.  Due to their age, health, and most importantly  the expiration of the statute of limitations for co-conspirators, we may be able to get one to flip, to set the record straight before they pass.

I hope some of you will provide names and a short description of their involvement with Rackstraw and I'll compile the list and share it with you. Sure could use everyone's assistance.
 

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« Reply #1481 on: October 23, 2016, 04:19:01 PM »
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With all of the recent activity regarding Rackstraw, I for one believe Rackstraw is a very viable candidate, and I would be interested in collecting a list of potential co-conspirators associated with him. I believe the co-conspirators are his weak link.  Due to their age, health, and most importantly  the expiration of the statute of limitations for co-conspirators, we may be able to get one to flip, to set the record straight before they pass.

I hope some of you will provide names and a short description of their involvement with Rackstraw and I'll compile the list and share it with you. Sure could use everyone's assistance.

If he is the guy and IF there were co-conspirators. If he isnt the guy there are no co-conspirators!  :))

Rackstraw impresses me as being a loaner. I wonder if back in the day Rakstraw even knew what he himself was doing ... on a rational level. He may be one of the most skilled "loosers" on the books! Like I said, a varsity level Duane Weber who always fucks up and gets caught, after the fact! Then winds up wallowing for years ... certainly no master criminal! Master criminals are people who never get caught! Except maybe once at the end of their careers ... and then they are free to talk about it which obviously Rackstraw is unwilling to do. That may be a sure sign he has nothing  to talk about! Since there was nothing factual to talk about ...  :)) C:-)


 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1482 on: October 23, 2016, 04:19:25 PM »
Whaa? Tom Colbert isn't sharing his rolo-dex?

Who else besides Dwayne Ingram do you want to talk with, George 2122...? Dick Briggs?
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« Reply #1483 on: October 23, 2016, 04:26:50 PM »
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...I for one believe Rackstraw is a very viable candidate, and I would be interested in collecting a list of potential co-conspirators associated with him... we may be able to get one to flip...


How do you propose in flipping one of Airborne Bob's co-conspirators? What leverage do you possibly have? Colbert hasn't gotten anyone to flip and he has 40 cops and FBI agents providing some muscle. What you got that Tommy ain't got? Just askin'...

Of course, if RWR is actually DB Cooper and in fact has co-conspirators.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1484 on: October 23, 2016, 05:21:52 PM »
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...I for one believe Rackstraw is a very viable candidate, and I would be interested in collecting a list of potential co-conspirators associated with him... we may be able to get one to flip...


How do you propose in flipping one of Airborne Bob's co-conspirators? What leverage do you possibly have? Colbert hasn't gotten anyone to flip and he has 40 cops and FBI agents providing some muscle. What you got that Tommy ain't got? Just askin'...

Of course, if RWR is actually DB Cooper and in fact has co-conspirators.

I hear you guys. 377 noted his losing streak, it's in Colbert's book (I bought it, almost done -- he's right, heavily sourced).  Someone knows something.  Maybe they didnt actually help him.  Maybe they just witnessed something and out of friendship, respect or fear, just never said anything.

Rather then jumping all over the place from subject to subject, I would like to just delve into one guy. Ton of info out there on Rackstraw. If he's the guy, someone out there knows something.  Hope you guys will help.