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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1410 on: September 07, 2016, 05:34:15 PM »
Whew, that is one huge gurgling sound...
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1411 on: September 07, 2016, 05:36:08 PM »
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...it's funny you mention that cooper twenty Bruce because one member of his family actually showed me a picture of an old looking 20 on their phone which they claimed was part of the cooper money.

Can you get us the serial number? We've got the list.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1412 on: September 07, 2016, 05:54:09 PM »


To me, this sounds a lot like Marla's story. A ton of intangibles with nothing definite linking the suspect to the Cooper hijacking.

But, there is one tangible fact with virtually nothing said or developed about it: The FBI did investigate Rackstraw for some reason and with all of Colbert's assets including FBI agents ... Colbert has presented almost nothing on this part of the story outside of the apparent fact 'the FBI dismissed Rackstraw as being Cooper'.

What are the particulars of the FBI's investigation of Rackstraw and why hasn't Colbert and his investigators given us the particulars? Quite obviously there are facts and particulars in the FBI side of this story. It's like an all-night dance where we don't get to dance with the girl we came to meet and dance with!  And its been 40+ years since this romance started and the ole gal may die of old age soon! ;)     

In fact, these 'big rambling productions' that go nowhere and consume years and decades, seems to be the rule. Maybe it's time for something narrow and focused and simple, for a change!  ;)   :))

In fact, time and again 'more' has proven not to be 'better' in the DB Cooper affair. And more & more & more has proven to be an even bigger better NOTHING!  :))
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All valid points Georger.  (paraphrasing) Former FBI Asst. Director Fuentes has mentioned that 1) all of the DNA evidence is tainted because they didn't know how to properly preserve it 45 years ago and 2) RWR was eliminated as a suspect because they couldn't definitively place him @ PDX.  While I'm likewise interested in what eliminated RWR as a suspect, I'm also interested in what made him a prime suspect in their eyes in the first place.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1413 on: September 07, 2016, 05:56:57 PM »
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Speaking of RWR, Tom sent me this today:


FYI, see two new things at DBCooper.com:

1) New Astoria article, with evidence proving that our 14 senior witnesses' stories on "Norman de Winter" aren't made up. Plus, article tells of de Winter's comments that one might suggest relate to Cooper's military/explosives skill sets?

2) Rackstraw's sister speaks...stunning 9 minutes. RWR hasn't even seen it, none aired on doc -- she addresses him directly.

And neither of these are the week's BIG news...stay tuned...

TJC

What is this about Rackstraw and Peterson working together? Could Kenny and Duane have been the third and fourth guys? All coordinated by Lyle in Minnesota?  O0 :))

That is my working theory but so far I have only been able to link Airborne Bob and Peterson....

In a previous post I think I remember you mentioning that you are part of Colbert's cold case team...
1) Is Rackstraw/Peterson your theory or Colberts'?
2) What have you found that links them?

Thanks Nicki, brbducksfan

Yes ducky I am part of TJC's crew and it has been me and my uncle Adrian's theory for some time now before we even started working with TJC. Unfortunately, I can not say right now as I have a contractual obligation with TJC preventing me for doing so and thus I must turn over all my findings to him.

Hmmm.

Quote:

"He's out of his mind. Of course, I've never spoken to "nickyb233," sued or threatened to sue him or his "Uncle" Adrian, welcomed them as "official members" of my CCT, or applied a gag order to him. He's nuts."

Sounds like you are an independent contractor with no association to or with Mr. Colbert ?

Care to commento de uppo hombre?  O0

 :))
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1414 on: September 07, 2016, 06:27:27 PM »
Georger I am working clandestinely for TJC as he does not want Airborne Bob to know I am working with him. But thanks to you he now knows I am sharing info on here and I got quite the tongue lashing from him. For the time being I must refrain from posting on here sorry guys.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1415 on: September 07, 2016, 06:39:05 PM »
But, Nicky, if you get a Christmas Card from Tommy, please let us know.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1416 on: September 07, 2016, 06:43:29 PM »
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Georger I am working clandestinely for TJC as he does not want Airborne Bob to know I am working with him. But thanks to you he now knows I am sharing info on here and I got quite the tongue lashing from him. For the time being I must refrain from posting on here sorry guys.

I'm sure TJC and Airborne Bob both probably look at this forum. I'd be surprised if they didn't.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1417 on: September 07, 2016, 08:12:19 PM »
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Georger I am working clandestinely for TJC as he does not want Airborne Bob to know I am working with him. But thanks to you he now knows I am sharing info on here and I got quite the tongue lashing from him. For the time being I must refrain from posting on here sorry guys.

I'm sure TJC and Airborne Bob both probably look at this forum. I'd be surprised if they didn't.


Yes, Tom reads this thread. he has answered questions in the past, and I have posted them. as for Rack? who knows, probably would be a good answer...
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1418 on: September 07, 2016, 11:51:12 PM »
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Georger I am working clandestinely for TJC as he does not want Airborne Bob to know I am working with him. But thanks to you he now knows I am sharing info on here and I got quite the tongue lashing from him. For the time being I must refrain from posting on here sorry guys.

That's funny. The quote is not mine! I didn't send it! Duhhhhhhh.

Sorry to blow your cover in the Bene Gesserit Maldum Fornax! Next time use a vacuum cleaner and pine bows to cover your tracks to and from Earth ! Mickey Mouse sees all.   ...  :))

Im just here to see Spider Man and the Ant Man sequel!

Let's go places!



 

   

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1419 on: September 08, 2016, 03:02:00 PM »
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To me, this sounds a lot like Marla's story. A ton of intangibles with nothing definite linking the suspect to the Cooper hijacking.

But, there is one tangible fact with virtually nothing said or developed about it: The FBI did investigate Rackstraw for some reason and with all of Colbert's assets including FBI agents ... Colbert has presented almost nothing on this part of the story outside of the apparent fact 'the FBI dismissed Rackstraw as being Cooper'.

What are the particulars of the FBI's investigation of Rackstraw and why hasn't Colbert and his investigators given us the particulars? Quite obviously there are facts and particulars in the FBI side of this story. It's like an all-night dance where we don't get to dance with the girl we came to meet and dance with!  And its been 40+ years since this romance started and the ole gal may die of old age soon! ;)     

In fact, these 'big rambling productions' that go nowhere and consume years and decades, seems to be the rule. Maybe it's time for something narrow and focused and simple, for a change!  ;)   :))

In fact, time and again 'more' has proven not to be 'better' in the DB Cooper affair. And more & more & more has proven to be an even bigger better NOTHING!  :))

All valid points Georger.  (paraphrasing) Former FBI Asst. Director Fuentes has mentioned that 1) all of the DNA evidence is tainted because they didn't know how to properly preserve it 45 years ago and 2) RWR was eliminated as a suspect because they couldn't definitively place him @ PDX.  While I'm likewise interested in what eliminated RWR as a suspect, I'm also interested in what made him a prime suspect in their eyes in the first place.

Based on what is known, all of the above sounds reasonable.

I am not so sure that any dna would be 'tainted' so much as the cells collected might not be viable after all the time that passed. This could be a matter of preservation but it could also be natural degradation. Nobody was swabbing for dna back in 71-72. Likewise we have slightly different stories on exactly where (from what) cells were collected. So far as I know, the FBI has not issued an exact statement on this matter so it's he-said vs she-said. Some people have claimed that at least three samples were taken, then results compared. So obviously this was a serious attempt to get statistically valid genetic evidence and protocols were followed - whatever the results of any single sample.

What does impress me is the results were good enough to single out multiple donors. If we assume that partial profiles then exist in at least three cases, for say 3 different donors, then even if the FBI does not know which donor was DB Cooper, they at least have a statistical base for comparing against suspect dna. There is no reason not to assume that one of the donors was Cooper himself. Cooper was not evidence-careful in any respect. Very likely his dna is somewhere in the evidence inventory of items that were recovered after the plane landed. The statistical odds against that would be very remote. In my opinion it is almost a statistical dead-certainty that Cooper left dna evidence behind ... if you could just find it!

However, I heard nothing in the Rackstraw program saying that Rakstraw was genetically eliminated? Maybe I missed that?

Rackstraw brought himself to the attention of the FBI  through his crimes, his skill set, and his statements! I don't that there is any mystery about that. And the same for Peterson, McCoy, and all the rest. It is probably noteworthy that nobody considered Duane Weber as a member of the Cooper suspect list until Jo Weber and Himmelsbach brought Duane to the world's attention - which frankly is laughable. Other suspects we don't know the names of would have joined that list because of their criminal histories. The real DB Cooper may not have had a criminal history, as such!       
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1420 on: September 22, 2016, 03:14:38 PM »
Can someone give me a link for the photo of SP in the May 1962 Boeing News wearing a suit and dress shoes?

Thanks.

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« Reply #1421 on: September 23, 2016, 10:05:27 AM »
377  You say "Can someone give me a link for the photo of SP in the May 1962 Boeing News wearing a suit and dress shoes?"

I thought you knew from our e-mails how I found the photo in the Boeing Files. It was used to make the advertisement in the Boeing News (May 1961) and is of high resolution as compared with the advertisement photo. Meredith Lowe was the Head Librarian (206) 768-7160 at the Museum of Flight and found the photo for me. The photo was used to make the advertisement by using a double image. It is too bad the coat covered the area on his tie where a tie clip would have been as that would have directly proved Sheridan was Cooper. However, to me his lie about delivering one of his two children in Nepal to the FBI at the time of Norjak is enough proof that Sheridan is Cooper. Why else would he lie?

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« Reply #1422 on: September 23, 2016, 12:53:30 PM »
Sailshaw,

It's an interesting photo. I just cant find my electronic copy. I was simply asking for a resend or a link.

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« Reply #1423 on: September 23, 2016, 01:14:13 PM »
Sailshaw write: Sheridan is Cooper. Why else would he lie?

The lie doesn't PROVE that he is Cooper. The lie didn't stop the FBI from going back to him for DNA. The lie didn't accomplish anything if it was an attempt to present a convincing alibi.

The lie, if it was a lie and not a mistake, wasn't believed by the FBI.

As for motive, there are many possibilities besides trying to cover up involvement in NORJACK.

By his own admission Peterson is a great suspect from the standpoint of QUALIFICATIONS. He said during his HC interview: "everything pointed to me, EVERYTHING"

I did criminal defense early in my legal career. To me, proof was and still is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. That is the legal standard in a criminal case. There is no way anyone could convict Peterson based on the evidence presented so far, so in my view it has not been proven that he is DBC. Not even close.

When you ponder why the FBI stopped investigating hot suspects, you have to remember what their mission is, its to present a winnable case to the DOJ. I had an FBI agent tell me that they knew my client committed a particular crime but couldn't find enough evidence to make a conviction, so they just moved on.  That may have occurred in the NORJACK investigation
MJ Fryar still wonders if she was talking to DBC when she interviewed Peterson.

Sheridan Peterson is one hell of an interesting guy, still sharp and highly intelligent.  He evidenced balls of steel in his various parachuting pursuits, especially flying a homemade bat-wing rig. MANY have died trying that particular stunt. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Night jumps, water jumps, wilderness jumps, NO PROBLEM for this guy,

Is it possible that Peterson was DBC? Yes, it is. But that's true for many other people as well.

Innocent until PROVEN guilty is how I view things.

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« Reply #1424 on: September 23, 2016, 02:28:02 PM »
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Sailshaw write: Sheridan is Cooper. Why else would he lie?

The lie doesn't PROVE that he is Cooper. The lie didn't stop the FBI from going back to him for DNA. The lie didn't accomplish anything if it was an attempt to present a convincing alibi.

The lie, if it was a lie and not a mistake, wasn't believed by the FBI.

As for motive, there are many possibilities besides trying to cover up involvement in NORJACK.

By his own admission Peterson is a great suspect from the standpoint of QUALIFICATIONS. He said during his HC interview: "everything pointed to me, EVERYTHING"

I did criminal defense early in my legal career. To me, proof was and still is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. That is the legal standard in a criminal case. There is no way anyone could convict Peterson based on the evidence presented so far, so in my view it has not been proven that he is DBC. Not even close.

When you ponder why the FBI stopped investigating hot suspects, you have to remember what their mission is, its to present a winnable case to the DOJ. I had an FBI agent tell me that they knew my client committed a particular crime but couldn't find enough evidence to make a conviction, so they just moved on.  That may have occurred in the NORJACK investigation
MJ Fryar still wonders if she was talking to DBC when she interviewed Peterson.

Sheridan Peterson is one hell of an interesting guy, still sharp and highly intelligent.  He evidenced balls of steel in his various parachuting pursuits, especially flying a homemade bat-wing rig. MANY have died trying that particular stunt. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Night jumps, water jumps, wilderness jumps, NO PROBLEM for this guy,

Is it possible that Peterson was DBC? Yes, it is. But that's true for many other people as well.

Innocent until PROVEN guilty is how I view things.

377

MJ Fryar can probably stop wondering. If no fragment of print or dna evidence fits in the print and genetic pool of evidence the FBI has, then odds are Peterson was not on that plane - period.

That said, Peterson does seem to enjoy the notoriety! (lacking anything better to do with his time on Earth).  ::)
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