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haggarknew

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1335 on: August 14, 2016, 07:47:49 PM »
              It really seems to me that D.B. Cooper was extremely familiar with the airplane, the airliner, the airport, the geography of the area, and the workings of the crew. This is all backed by testimony from various witnesses.(he knew that the 727 could take off with the stairs down, he used terms (when describing parts of the 727) that usually only the crew would use(he called the telephone and stairs by the same terms that the crew would call them by)  he pointed to landmarks from the sky, he asked that flaps be set to 15 degrees(not common knowledge), he seemed to have knowledge of how the fuel truck operated(he talked about the pump freezing up or something to that) he knew Tina wouldn't need to worry about being sucked out when opening stairway, he knew they could get the parachutes locally.
                All of this (plus other stuff I'm probably forgetting) is the reason I believe he was a frequent (or at least somewhat frequent) flier in and out of this section of the country. He seemed very comfortable with and also familiar with everything going on around him. This is also reasoning for me to believe he was wearing his everyday clothes.( maybe not the raincoat). I believe he knew he could blend in and not really be noticed. He took steps to keep himself separated from the other passengers and crew members. Think about it, if you would wear makeup and that be noticed by someone, wouldn't that risk drawing attention to yourself. I just wanted to clear up the reasoning behind me believing what I do.   
                That being said, I would love to hear from the thrift store owner.
               
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1336 on: August 14, 2016, 07:54:43 PM »
She told me she did come forward right after the Hijacking and spoke with the fbi... she basically told them she believed she sold the db cooper suite to a swiss baron that was living in Astoria named Norman Dewinter. One thing about Rackstraw duke that my uncle Adrian told me who was a friend of his back in the day and worked with bob in Iran is that he is the type of person that if you meet just once you will never forget him. About a handfull of witnesses interviewed by TJC said the same thing.
 

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« Reply #1337 on: August 14, 2016, 07:57:04 PM »
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This employee lived in Astoria and already knew of him as Norman Dewinter the swiss baron although she had never spoken to him until that day when he came into the store. I can not believe TJ missed this key witness, I was very intrigued by what she told me which is case sensitive for now as I am launching my own investigation into Airborne Bob...but I promise to reveal more details when I can fellas.

If, in the days following the hijacking, this employee realized they recently sold a suit to a guy that might be the hijacker, why didn't they come forward with this info?

And if they didn't realize it then, why and how are they realizing it 45 years later?

That was one thing that felt off with the History Channel doc. These witnesses being shown a photo of Rackstraw and saying "Yup that's the guy that crashed on our couch a half century ago." Huh? I had a lot of random people crash on my couch during my college days too and there's no way I could identify any of them today. And that was only ~15 years ago, not 45.  I couldn't help but wonder how someone could reasonably remember such a minute detail from so long ago.
I may be wrong, but didn't someone have a photograph of DeWinter and one of Rackstraw about the same time?  I remember looking at them side by side and couldn't say for sure if it was the same guy.

If they're not the same guy, all the used clothing store person is claiming is that she sold something to DeWinter -- not Rackstraw -- and would have no bearing on the hijacking at all.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1338 on: August 15, 2016, 01:20:54 AM »
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              It really seems to me that D.B. Cooper was extremely familiar with the airplane, the airliner, the airport, the geography of the area, and the workings of the crew. This is all backed by testimony from various witnesses.(he knew that the 727 could take off with the stairs down, he used terms (when describing parts of the 727) that usually only the crew would use(he called the telephone and stairs by the same terms that the crew would call them by)  he pointed to landmarks from the sky, he asked that flaps be set to 15 degrees(not common knowledge), he seemed to have knowledge of how the fuel truck operated(he talked about the pump freezing up or something to that) he knew Tina wouldn't need to worry about being sucked out when opening stairway, he knew they could get the parachutes locally.
                All of this (plus other stuff I'm probably forgetting) is the reason I believe he was a frequent (or at least somewhat frequent) flier in and out of this section of the country. He seemed very comfortable with and also familiar with everything going on around him. This is also reasoning for me to believe he was wearing his everyday clothes.( maybe not the raincoat). I believe he knew he could blend in and not really be noticed. He took steps to keep himself separated from the other passengers and crew members. Think about it, if you would wear makeup and that be noticed by someone, wouldn't that risk drawing attention to yourself. I just wanted to clear up the reasoning behind me believing what I do.   
                That being said, I would love to hear from the thrift store owner.
             

The things you state in the first paragraph, above, means that Cooper was more than just a passenger.  He had detailed information on the 727 that a passenger would not have.  In fact, he knew things about the rear stairs that the NWA flight crew didn't know. 
 

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« Reply #1339 on: August 15, 2016, 08:25:54 AM »
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She told me she did come forward right after the Hijacking and spoke with the fbi... she basically told them she believed she sold the db cooper suite to a swiss baron that was living in Astoria named Norman Dewinter. One thing about Rackstraw duke that my uncle Adrian told me who was a friend of his back in the day and worked with bob in Iran is that he is the type of person that if you meet just once you will never forget him. About a handfull of witnesses interviewed by TJC said the same thing.


That's odd that this was pieced together so quickly after the hijacking? what was the reason for coming to this conclusion so fast? I could be wrong but I think the reason for the second hand clothing was brought up was after the titanium was found?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1340 on: August 15, 2016, 08:32:40 AM »
                Yes I agree Robert99. He had knowledge of some things that the average passenger wouldn't have. So what do we make of this? Did this come from being a pilot? Was this knowledge due to his occupation? Would love to hear your thoughts (and everyone else) on this matter.
 

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« Reply #1341 on: August 15, 2016, 08:52:30 AM »
The comment above really should be in the flight path section.....we need to start getting on track with the topic of each of the threads...
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1342 on: August 15, 2016, 09:11:30 AM »
               Sorry Shut, duly noted.
 

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« Reply #1343 on: August 15, 2016, 09:18:46 AM »
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               Sorry Shut, duly noted.


no need for apologies, I do it myself. just trying to get things back on track, no biggie...
 

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« Reply #1344 on: August 15, 2016, 09:52:24 AM »
Since the Titanium particle narrows down the suspect list so dramatically it makes sense to assume the tie did belong to DBC.  A second hand purchase only opens up a whole new can of worms.
 

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« Reply #1345 on: August 15, 2016, 11:47:18 AM »
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Since the Titanium particle narrows down the suspect list so dramatically it makes sense to assume the tie did belong to DBC.  A second hand purchase only opens up a whole new can of worms.

The second hand store theory is much like the plant theory. It is used mainly by those who have a suspect theory that benefits from it.

But, the titanium had to come from somewhere. Even if the tie was bought at a second hand store, the titanium if that rare, should narrow the location of such a store. Thus, it would narrow the location of our guy.
 

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« Reply #1346 on: August 15, 2016, 10:38:57 PM »
Regarding the titanium, what is everyone's opinion of the Supersonic Transport theory as it relates to Cooper?


 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1347 on: August 16, 2016, 09:54:05 AM »
HAGGERKNEW You say: " Yes I agree Robert99. He had knowledge of some things that the average passenger wouldn't have. So what do we make of this? Did this come from being a pilot? Was this knowledge due to his occupation? Would love to hear your thoughts (and everyone else) on this matter."

I say:   Sheridan Peterson went after a job at Boeing in the "Manuals and Handbooks Group" where he could learn all about the 727 and aft airstairs. That is where he learned about the Boeing tests at Moses Lake of the take-off, flight and landing of the 727 with the aft airstairs deployed to show our government that it was possible. Sheridan started the Boeing Skydiving Club and had his Instructors Certification on Skydiving. However, the FLAW in his phony alibi to the FBI that he was delivering one of his two children in Nepal at the time of Norjak was none of his children were born in 1971 (Norjack 11/24/1971) as the son was born in 1970 and the daughter in 1972. Why did he lie to the FBI? Because he is DB Cooper.

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« Reply #1348 on: August 16, 2016, 11:40:27 AM »
He had knowledge of some things that the average passenger wouldn't have. So what do we make of this? Did this come from being a pilot? Was this knowledge due to his occupation? Would love to hear your thoughts (and everyone else) on this matter."

I say:   Sheridan Peterson went after a job at Boeing in the "Manuals and Handbooks Group" where he could learn all about the 727 and aft airstairs. That is where he learned about the Boeing tests at Moses Lake of the take-off, flight and landing of the 727 with the aft airstairs deployed to show our government that it was possible. Sheridan started the Boeing Skydiving Club and had his Instructors Certification on Skydiving. However, the FLAW in his phony alibi to the FBI that he was delivering one of his two children in Nepal at the time of Norjak was none of his children were born in 1971 (Norjack 11/24/1971) as the son was born in 1970 and the daughter in 1972. Why did he lie to the FBI? Because he is DB Cooper.

                           He sounds like an interesting man. I would like to hear more, especially more about his time at Boeing. I would also like to hear more about the Boeing tests at Moses Lake. Also curious whether him and Chuck Dooley would have crossed paths. Do you know what years he was employed by Boeing?






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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #1349 on: August 16, 2016, 08:25:49 PM »
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Since the Titanium particle narrows down the suspect list so dramatically it makes sense to assume the tie did belong to DBC.  A second hand purchase only opens up a whole new can of worms.

The second hand store theory is much like the plant theory. It is used mainly by those who have a suspect theory that benefits from it.

But, the titanium had to come from somewhere. Even if the tie was bought at a second hand store, the titanium if that rare, should narrow the location of such a store. Thus, it would narrow the location of our guy.

Either the tie was DBC's and the Titanium is as important as the Tina Bar money or he bought it second hand in which case it's almost useless.   If I lived in the area i would be trying to get my hands on employee lists from the handful of companies that could be the source of the particle.  That's a game changer. On the other hand, if it came from a thrift shop it doesn't help much at all as it puts too many variables into the equation.