Cratering at T-Bar

What I get from you, Robert and Georger, is that:

1. Flight 305 was west of V-23, most likely in the vicinity of T-Bar.

2. This can be determined because the flight transcripts from the FBI and FAA have 19 redactions, which makes them suspect in toto.

3. The plane - and Cooper and his money - must have been in the T-Bar area since the money was found at T-Bar, and the lapses in the documentation allow for that possibility/likelihood.

I'm with you so far, with a high degree of comfort. Am I understanding you correctly, so far? I hope so, but after this I start to squirm a little. Nevertheless, and moving on, what I hear you say is that:

3. DB Cooper and his money cratered somewhere very close to the money find site at T-Bar. At the very least, the money impacted within an eighth-mile square, or about 500 feet of the money find site - impacting first on land - and then hydrologically moving to the money find site. I assume that means some kind of flooding action that swept over the landscape where the money first landed, and then moving the money to its eventual discovery site about 40 feet up-beach from the Columbia River.

Am I understanding you correctly so far?

After this, I really twist and turn. But, I sense that you feel DB Cooper cratered because the money must have cratered to have deposited itself where it was found in 1980.

Am I correct in that understanding?

SO, are you claiming that the cratering of DB Cooper has nothing to do particularly with the parachutes, his whuffo status, wind-chill factors, a-symmetrical loads, bad luck, hypothermia, etc - or it might. I am assuming that you are saying that all that can be determined is that Cooper had to have cratered because the money had to have cratered to end up as it did at T-Bar, ie: wet, highly compacted, edges worn, no diatoms, rubber bands still maintained a degree of plasticity, bills had holes bored into them - presumably from aquatic creatures - and the  bills were found aligned near-perfectly atop one-another.

Cratering at T-Bar

What I get from you, Robert and Georger, is that:

1. Flight 305 was west of V-23, most likely in the vicinity of T-Bar.

2. This can be determined because the flight transcripts from the FBI and FAA have 19 redactions, which makes them suspect in toto.

3. The plane - and Cooper and his money - must have been in the T-Bar area since the money was found at T-Bar, and the lapses in the documentation allow for that possibility/likelihood.

I'm with you so far, with a high degree of comfort. Am I understanding you correctly, so far? I hope so, but after this I start to squirm a little. Nevertheless, and moving on, what I hear you say is that:

3. DB Cooper and his money cratered somewhere very close to the money find site at T-Bar. At the very least, the money impacted within an eighth-mile square, or about 500 feet of the money find site - impacting first on land - and then hydrologically moving to the money find site. I assume that means some kind of flooding action that swept over the landscape where the money first landed, and then moving the money to its eventual discovery site about 40 feet up-beach from the Columbia River.

Am I understanding you correctly so far?

After this, I really twist and turn. But, I sense that you feel DB Cooper cratered because the money must have cratered to have deposited itself where it was found in 1980.

Am I correct in that understanding?

SO, are you claiming that the cratering of DB Cooper has nothing to do particularly with the parachutes, his whuffo status, wind-chill factors, a-symmetrical loads, bad luck, hypothermia, etc - or it might. I am assuming that you are saying that all that can be determined is that Cooper had to have cratered because the money had to have cratered to end up as it did at T-Bar, ie: wet, highly compacted, edges worn, no diatoms, rubber bands still maintained a degree of plasticity, bills had holes bored into them - presumably from aquatic creatures - and the  bills were found aligned near-perfectly atop one-another.

Bruce, See my reply to Mark above.  In the meantime, I am not going to bother repeating myself.

Grayling, Michigan Update

Not only is Grayling, Michigan the home of Dick Lepsy, it was also the early of noted American author, Jim Harrison, who died last week.

Harrison is widely acknowledged as being one of the best writers of the past generation, and he is certainly one of my favorites.

Jo claims that Duane was a parachute rigger.

From Reddit: "Weber was a rigger & a spotter so he had to know how to use the chute..."  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

So he was a rigger because Jo says he was. Not one shred of evidence that Duane knew a Capewell from a Pin Cone.

I am amazed (and dismayed) at how Jo simply endows Duane with whatever expertise he needs to fit her Duane=DBC theory.

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Jo is a feeder. She decided to feed off the Cooper legacy. Apparently FBI agents and Cooper addicts will listen to anybody!    They have so much time on their hands!

To hear Jo Weber tell it Duane built the pyramids! But, Jo Weber has exploited a wide audience of - fools and miscreants with her telephone and humongous telephone bills. 

What is the basis of your long interest in Jo Weber? Psychology? Perspicacity? The chance that Jo may stumble onto the Arc of the Covenant ? 
 

 

She has made this statement on multiple threads...

1962 - 1965 - Weber was off the map - but, he was with Intermountain communications out of Leadville, Co....a group headed up by a man by the name of Richard "Paperlegs" Peterson...who was also a former smoke jumper....this is what Cooper asked for a chest pack as smokejumpers usually called them chest packs....Weber was a rigger and a spotter so he had to know how to use the chute...

Jo, with all her flaws, is just a person trying to make sense of her life as it nears its end. Her excesses, viewed in that light, are forgivable.

There is something fascinating about her tenacity. All contrary evidence is discarded. All other evidence is amplified, distorted or cherry picked. Duane, an ordinary crook with sub par professional skills, becomes a spook, rigger, two way radio whiz, spotter, jumper, tactile aerial navigator, mastermind criminal etc.

Had Duane been in MAC SOG we would have likely won the war in Vietnam.

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Jo..., sigh.