Vincent G Badolato

Denise Hollar-Hambrook called me today to discuss the suspect she has identified: Vincent G Badolato. We spoke about this fellow several years ago, and Denise is still stirring the Cooper Pot.

She caught my attention today by telling me that she has discovered an individual high in government intelligence by the name of Edward Vincent Badolato, and she wonders if they are related. She has no confirmation on this, and I was unable to get much when I Googled the guy.

But Denise posits that DB Cooper was Vinnie Badolato, and was given cover by his purported family member, Edward. Denise also thinks that Vinnie may have whacked Earl Cossey.

Denise told me that Geoffrey Gray published a "last interview with" Cossey and reported that Coss was claiming DB Cooper was probably a military guy and most likely survived the jump. I had never heard Coss say anything remotely like that, and GG has never broached those dynamics with me, either. She is sending me the link to GG's statements. She's thinking that Coss got killed because the Powers That Be were getting worried that Coss was figuring out the Vinnie-Eddie angle, and knew that DB Cooper was still alive.

Talking with Denise is like talking with Jo, but ya never know....

Has GG established communication with Coss, on the other side? Have you? Are you the retired sports caster from Cleveland?

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... as you already know, in my personal opinion DB Cooper stopped breathing shortly before 8:20PM PST on the evening of November 24, 1971 and in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  So there is not a good chance that anyone still breathing after that time could have been Cooper.

Tell me more, Robert. Why are you so certain that Danny died moments after leaving the aftstairs? Impact, yes, but why the impact?  Too cold? Too rainy? Too...what?

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... as you already know, in my personal opinion DB Cooper stopped breathing shortly before 8:20PM PST on the evening of November 24, 1971 and in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  So there is not a good chance that anyone still breathing after that time could have been Cooper.

Tell me more, Robert. Why are you so certain that Danny died moments after leaving the aftstairs? Impact, yes, but why the impact?  Too cold? Too rainy? Too...what?

Bruce, Come on, get serious!  Let me refer you to my posts on this subject, probably numbering several hundred at this point, on this site and on DZ.  Read a few of them.

But very briefly, the money at Tina Bar answers more questions that some people, apparently including you, realize.  The topology of the Tina Bar area is such that it mandates that Cooper was a no-pull and impacted on solid ground in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  A fuller explanation of this is contained in the posts mentioned above.

Cooper's impact point can be estimated to within a lot less than one square mile based on the existing publicly released information.  If the FBI/FAA would stop playing games and release the actual radio transcripts of the airliner while it was in the Seattle ATC area, Cooper's impact point could probably be determined to within an area of about one-eight of a square mile.

If you are one of the people who think the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, with 19 redactions so that the airliner's location can not be determined at any meaningful time, are correct then let me refer you to the Oakland ATC and Reno tower radio transcripts with the airliner.  The Oakland and Reno transcripts are believable and the Seattle transcripts are baloney.
   

Robert, I read everything you post, and I certainly see how you have grown in assuredness over the years, particularly in recent months. But I don't see the connections to the info you cite.

1. FBI/FAA flight transcripts. Bogus - okay, I accept that. But what does that mean? Does it automatically prove that Flight 305 was over Tina Bar when DBC jumped?  Maybe. But what makes you so certain?

R99 REPLIES:  I am only saying that the Seattle ATC transcripts of the flight south between Seattle and the point where the flight was handed off to the Oakland ATC, just north of the Fort Jones VORTAC in Northern California, have had all meaningful information as to the airliner's location deleted from it.  Read the Seattle transcripts and compare them with the Oakland and Reno transcripts.  Do you see any differences? 

2. Cooper was a no-pull? Maybe. But, why do you say he was? What's the evidence that makes you so convinced? You cite the topography of Tina Bar, but I don't see a connection between no-pulling at 10,000 feet and the lay of the land below. You say you've already explained it? Really? Then what makes your analysis so obtuse that a normal reader missed it consistently over the years? Please spell it out for us to understand.

R99 REPLIES:  "Normal readers" didn't miss what I was writing about.  But people who had agendas of their own went out of their way to ignore it or, in the case of RMB, claimed that the flight path was far to the east of Tina Bar.  Again, this has been discussed in dozens of posts on DZ.

3. Are you saying that DBC cratered at Tina Bar, or "on solid ground" within an eighth mile or so of the money find? What makes you say that? I just don't see it.

R99 REPLIES:  I'm saying that Cooper was a no-pull who impacted on solid ground  just upstream (to the south) of Tina Bar.  And with the flight path known, which can be determined from the correct and complete Seattle transcripts, Cooper's impact point can be determined to within a one-eight square mile AREA (not distance).

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... as you already know, in my personal opinion DB Cooper stopped breathing shortly before 8:20PM PST on the evening of November 24, 1971 and in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  So there is not a good chance that anyone still breathing after that time could have been Cooper.

Tell me more, Robert. Why are you so certain that Danny died moments after leaving the aftstairs? Impact, yes, but why the impact?  Too cold? Too rainy? Too...what?

Bruce, Come on, get serious!  Let me refer you to my posts on this subject, probably numbering several hundred at this point, on this site and on DZ.  Read a few of them.

But very briefly, the money at Tina Bar answers more questions that some people, apparently including you, realize.  The topology of the Tina Bar area is such that it mandates that Cooper was a no-pull and impacted on solid ground in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  A fuller explanation of this is contained in the posts mentioned above.

Cooper's impact point can be estimated to within a lot less than one square mile based on the existing publicly released information.  If the FBI/FAA would stop playing games and release the actual radio transcripts of the airliner while it was in the Seattle ATC area, Cooper's impact point could probably be determined to within an area of about one-eight of a square mile.

If you are one of the people who think the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, with 19 redactions so that the airliner's location can not be determined at any meaningful time, are correct then let me refer you to the Oakland ATC and Reno tower radio transcripts with the airliner.  The Oakland and Reno transcripts are believable and the Seattle transcripts are baloney.
   

Robert, I read everything you post, and I certainly see how you have grown in assuredness over the years, particularly in recent months. But I don't see the connections to the info you cite.

1. FBI/FAA flight transcripts. Bogus - okay, I accept that. But what does that mean? Does it automatically prove that Flight 305 was over Tina Bar when DBC jumped?  Maybe. But what makes you so certain?

2. Cooper was a no-pull? Maybe. But, why do you say he was? What's the evidence that makes you so convinced? You cite the topography of Tina Bar, but I don't see a connection between no-pulling at 10,000 feet and the lay of the land below. You say you've already explained it? Really? Then what makes your analysis so obtuse that a normal reader missed it consistently over the years? Please spell it out for us to understand.

3. Are you saying that DBC cratered at Tina Bar, or "on solid ground" within an eighth mile or so of the money find? What makes you say that? I just don't see it.

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... as you already know, in my personal opinion DB Cooper stopped breathing shortly before 8:20PM PST on the evening of November 24, 1971 and in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  So there is not a good chance that anyone still breathing after that time could have been Cooper.

Tell me more, Robert. Why are you so certain that Danny died moments after leaving the aftstairs? Impact, yes, but why the impact?  Too cold? Too rainy? Too...what?

Bruce, Come on, get serious!  Let me refer you to my posts on this subject, probably numbering several hundred at this point, on this site and on DZ.  Read a few of them.

But very briefly, the money at Tina Bar answers more questions that some people, apparently including you, realize.  The topology of the Tina Bar area is such that it mandates that Cooper was a no-pull and impacted on solid ground in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  A fuller explanation of this is contained in the posts mentioned above.

Cooper's impact point can be estimated to within a lot less than one square mile based on the existing publicly released information.  If the FBI/FAA would stop playing games and release the actual radio transcripts of the airliner while it was in the Seattle ATC area, Cooper's impact point could probably be determined to within an area of about one-eight of a square mile.

If you are one of the people who think the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, with 19 redactions so that the airliner's location can not be determined at any meaningful time, are correct then let me refer you to the Oakland ATC and Reno tower radio transcripts with the airliner.  The Oakland and Reno transcripts are believable and the Seattle transcripts are baloney.
   

Robert, I read everything you post, and I certainly see how you have grown in assuredness over the years, particularly in recent months. But I don't see the connections to the info you cite.

1. FBI/FAA flight transcripts. Bogus - okay, I accept that. But what does that mean? Does it automatically prove that Flight 305 was over Tina Bar when DBC jumped?  Maybe. But what makes you so certain?

2. Cooper was a no-pull? Maybe. But, why do you say he was? What's the evidence that makes you so convinced? You cite the topography of Tina Bar, but I don't see a connection between no-pulling at 10,000 feet and the lay of the land below. You say you've already explained it? Really? Then what makes your analysis so obtuse that a normal reader missed it consistently over the years? Please spell it out for us to understand.

3. Are you saying that DBC cratered at Tina Bar, or "on solid ground" within an eighth mile or so of the money find? What makes you say that? I just don't see it.

Well, if you have read 99's posts (which it looks like you didnt or dont comprehend them) then what 99 is saying (as I understand his thesis) is:

1. 99's number crunching on the flight path options puts the plane west of V23, not on V23. 

2. The timing window for the jump using an amended west-of-V23 flight path, plus drop parameters, allows (if not demands) a landing zone very close to a drainage zone which feeds Tina Bar. Said drainage zone could and does move material to Tina Bar hydrologically, and the condition of the money bundles just happens to conform to the notion that the money bundles had not moved too far from it's original landing site.

3. The topography 99 cites relates to the above and makes the above possible. The topography at Tina Bar determines what can and cannot arrive on Tina Bar and the few directions from which it can arrive and leave, hydrologically.

Am I correct in this interpretation, Robert-99 ?

     

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... as you already know, in my personal opinion DB Cooper stopped breathing shortly before 8:20PM PST on the evening of November 24, 1971 and in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  So there is not a good chance that anyone still breathing after that time could have been Cooper.

Tell me more, Robert. Why are you so certain that Danny died moments after leaving the aftstairs? Impact, yes, but why the impact?  Too cold? Too rainy? Too...what?

Bruce, Come on, get serious!  Let me refer you to my posts on this subject, probably numbering several hundred at this point, on this site and on DZ.  Read a few of them.

But very briefly, the money at Tina Bar answers more questions that some people, apparently including you, realize.  The topology of the Tina Bar area is such that it mandates that Cooper was a no-pull and impacted on solid ground in the immediate vicinity of Tina Bar.  A fuller explanation of this is contained in the posts mentioned above.

Cooper's impact point can be estimated to within a lot less than one square mile based on the existing publicly released information.  If the FBI/FAA would stop playing games and release the actual radio transcripts of the airliner while it was in the Seattle ATC area, Cooper's impact point could probably be determined to within an area of about one-eight of a square mile.

If you are one of the people who think the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, with 19 redactions so that the airliner's location can not be determined at any meaningful time, are correct then let me refer you to the Oakland ATC and Reno tower radio transcripts with the airliner.  The Oakland and Reno transcripts are believable and the Seattle transcripts are baloney.
   

Robert, I read everything you post, and I certainly see how you have grown in assuredness over the years, particularly in recent months. But I don't see the connections to the info you cite.

1. FBI/FAA flight transcripts. Bogus - okay, I accept that. But what does that mean? Does it automatically prove that Flight 305 was over Tina Bar when DBC jumped?  Maybe. But what makes you so certain?

2. Cooper was a no-pull? Maybe. But, why do you say he was? What's the evidence that makes you so convinced? You cite the topography of Tina Bar, but I don't see a connection between no-pulling at 10,000 feet and the lay of the land below. You say you've already explained it? Really? Then what makes your analysis so obtuse that a normal reader missed it consistently over the years? Please spell it out for us to understand.

3. Are you saying that DBC cratered at Tina Bar, or "on solid ground" within an eighth mile or so of the money find? What makes you say that? I just don't see it.

Well, if you have read 99's posts (which it looks like you didnt or dont comprehend them) then what 99 is saying (as I understand his thesis) is:

1. 99's number crunching on the flight path options puts the plane west of V23, not on V23. 

2. The timing window for the jump using an amended west-of-V23 flight path, plus drop parameters, allows (if not demands) a landing zone very close to a drainage zone which feeds Tina Bar. Said drainage zone could and does move material to Tina Bar hydrologically, and the condition of the money bundles just happens to conform to the notion that the money bundles had not moved too far from it's original landing site.

3. The topography 99 cites relates to the above and makes the above possible. The topography at Tina Bar determines what can and cannot arrive on Tina Bar and the few directions from which it can arrive and leave, hydrologically.

Am I correct in this interpretation, Robert-99 ?

   

Georger, You got it right!