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[Robert99]

Much like the Cooper case, it has options..did the raft fail right away, halfway, or did it stay intact. it's hard to say how much the water was an issue on/in the raft. did they off Morris giving plausibility to the sighting of Morris in the water? more sightings have surfaced with the Anglin's than Morris...the Anglin's were good swimmers, including swimming in lake Michigan during the winter..

I use to think they didn't make it, but now I'm not so sure? 

If the Anglins went swimming in Lake Michigan during the winter, they probably had to break some ice first.  Ice fishing is very popular on some of the Great Lakes.

[georger]

Much like the Cooper case, it has options..did the raft fail right away, halfway, or did it stay intact. it's hard to say how much the water was an issue on/in the raft. did they off Morris giving plausibility to the sighting of Morris in the water? more sightings have surfaced with the Anglin's than Morris...the Anglin's were good swimmers, including swimming in lake Michigan during the winter..

I use to think they didn't make it, but now I'm not so sure? 

If the Anglins went swimming in Lake Michigan during the winter, they probably had to break some ice first.  Ice fishing is very popular on some of the Great Lakes.

I classify this as: 'my grandmother used to walk 50 miles, one way, back and forth each day just to go to country school, all through the winter ... with a 100lb load on her back and wolves and bears chasing her each day ...' Yepper Grandma! 

Im sure the Anglin criminals had it much tougher in their Arctic swim to freedom ... with Orca's and White Sharks on their heals! And still they made it. Yepper Grandma!

 

[nmiwrecks]

Much like the Cooper case, it has options..did the raft fail right away, halfway, or did it stay intact. it's hard to say how much the water was an issue on/in the raft. did they off Morris giving plausibility to the sighting of Morris in the water? more sightings have surfaced with the Anglin's than Morris...the Anglin's were good swimmers, including swimming in lake Michigan during the winter..

I use to think they didn't make it, but now I'm not so sure? 

If the Anglins went swimming in Lake Michigan during the winter, they probably had to break some ice first.  Ice fishing is very popular on some of the Great Lakes.

I classify this as: 'my grandmother used to walk 50 miles, one way, back and forth each day just to go to country school, all through the winter ... with a 100lb load on her back and wolves and bears chasing her each day ...' Yepper Grandma! 

Im sure the Anglin criminals had it much tougher in their Arctic swim to freedom ... with Orca's and White Sharks on their heals! And still they made it. Yepper Grandma!

 

As much as I am a proponent of "Cooper died", and have a strong dislike of urban legends of people with super-powers, I have to say that these guys had a chance.  The distance to Angel Island was only 1.7 miles and the closest land was only 1.3 miles.  They would have spent less than an hour in water with a temperature of about 55 degrees.  A friend of mine, who just passed away a month ago  , survived in a life raft for 36 hours, with air temps below freezing and water temps in the low 40s.  Of course the counter to that is all his ship mates froze to death on that raft:
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The inmates were extremely motivated and in very good physical condition.  It's amazing what the human body and mind can do under certain conditions.  Their escape was certainly survivable, but like Cooper, there is no proof that they lived, or died.

The relatives who claim they are still alive might be doing this as a money making ploy.  Money is a great incentive to create a story, or to turn in a relative you barely know.  It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

[377]

Shutter wrote: " Money is a great incentive to create a story..."

The dream of big bucks is behind much of Cooper literature, but the anticipated profit is just an illusion.

The Vortex sucks up money as well as time and rationality.

Bruce is well on his way to breaking $1 per hour and I wish him luck!

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[Parrotheadvol]

I watched the show and found it very interesting. But, I have a hard time trusting shows like this, because you don't always get the whole story. Producers of such shows can steer viewers toward a desired conclusion. I can recall a certain episode of the show "Decoded", that was able to convince some viewers that a certain person committed a certain crime, by misrepresenting facts and even inventing facts.

Still, this seems to have a little bit of merit to it. Hopefully we get to see an answer one way or another.

[Shutter]

Shutter wrote: " Money is a great incentive to create a story..."

The dream of big bucks is behind much of Cooper literature, but the anticipated profit is just an illusion.

The Vortex sucks up money as well as time and rationality.

Bruce is well on his way to breaking $1 per hour and I wish him luck!

377

I believe you are talking about NMIwreckes on that quote 377....

[Shutter]

I watched the show and found it very interesting. But, I have a hard time trusting shows like this, because you don't always get the whole story. Producers of such shows can steer viewers toward a desired conclusion. I can recall a certain episode of the show "Decoded", that was able to convince some viewers that a certain person committed a certain crime, by misrepresenting facts and even inventing facts.

Still, this seems to have a little bit of merit to it. Hopefully we get to see an answer one way or another.

yes, and they didn't even realize they blew a hole in there own story by agreeing Bernie was not the accomplice....that's hollywood for ya 

[377]

Shutter wrote: " Money is a great incentive to create a story..."

The dream of big bucks is behind much of Cooper literature, but the anticipated profit is just an illusion.

The Vortex sucks up money as well as time and rationality.

Bruce is well on his way to breaking $1 per hour and I wish him luck!

377

I believe you are talking about NMIwreckes on that quote 377....

Sorry for the attribution error. 377

[377]

Really a shame that the oft predicted end of MAD MEN didn't come to be. Don Draper did not become DB Cooper. It would have fanned a lot of new interest in the case.

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The average age of Cooper buffs is quite high. We need new blood. Kanye West probably doesn't even know who DB Cooper is. 

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[377]

Hypothermia isn't the only hazard in SF Bay:

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[iekline4]

Thank you so much for posting the Alcatraz special Shutter... missed it the other night and have been searching :-)

[Shutter]

Thank you so much for posting the Alcatraz special Shutter... missed it the other night and have been searching :-)

Your welcome. I'm watching it right now for the first time too 

[Shutter]

Just finished the episode on the Alcatraz escape. they have a high possibility that the photo's given to law enforcement very well could be John, and Clarence Anglin. the photo's were taken in the mid 70's over a decade after the crime. another plausible escape route has been discovered as well. this connects to the sighting of a boat just off the island of Alcatraz..

If all of this is verified, it means everything about the escape was pretty much wrong...

The picture below is believed to be John and Clarence Anglin...

[Robert99]

Just finished the episode on the Alcatraz escape. they have a high possibility that the photo's given to law enforcement very well could be John, and Clarence Anglin. the photo's were taken in the mid 70's over a decade after the crime. another plausible escape route has been discovered as well. this connects to the sighting of a boat just off the island of Alcatraz..

If all of this is verified, it means everything about the escape was pretty much wrong...

The picture below is believed to be John and Clarence Anglin...

There is a problem connecting that boat, or any pre-arranged boat, with the escape.  The incoming and outgoing mail of all convicts was monitored and the Anglins and Morris did not have visitors.  Consequently, there was no way to set up a boat or any outside individuals to help in their escape try.

[Shutter]

There is a problem connecting that boat, or any pre-arranged boat, with the escape.

It could of been arranged through another inmate. a lot of the inmates helped where ever they could with the escape. I'm not so sure about the raft being towed by a boat. it is odd that electrical cord (150 feet) was missing from the dock.

Allen West was the inmate who was left behind due to not being able to get through the vent in his cell. he claimed to take credit for mastering most of the escape. the trouble is believing anything he says.