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I still think the maps are for the crew.....

[smokin99]

I still think the maps are for the crew.....

Maybe so, I'll keep reading for context, but it was pretty straightforward... three words in the interview..."He wanted Maps"

[smokin99]

I still think the maps are for the crew.....

Maybe so, I'll keep reading for context, but it was pretty straightforward... three words in the interview..."He wanted Maps"

He might have wanted to able to check where best place to land for fuel since seems they were going back and forth on this issue....

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I'm looking at the old transcripts. I recall them stating they didn't have any maps, or plates. I found one statement so far. "we haven't got the maps out here and haven't had a chance to look at it....end quote.

[smokin99]

I'm looking at the old transcripts. I recall them stating they didn't have any maps, or plates. I found one statement so far. "we haven't got the maps out here and haven't had a chance to look at it....end quote.

I know, but it just sounds like he was in more of the loop about the decision of where they were going than we've been led to believe. In the interviews, it is written as if they are discussing landing stop with the hijacker and he wanted maps.
I get the feeling that events were a lot more fluid than the way they read off of the transcripts.... but I've not gotten out my hi-lighter yet and read the interviews with the transcripts in hand....so I might be reading it wrong..

But hey, I'm just glad that someone got this to you and you posted it....we need something new on the case to delve into - keep it interesting...

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Found another entry (see photo)

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It's possible he asked for them, but keep in mind that Flo was in the cockpit taking notes. perhaps she got confused, I don't know?

[smokin99]

It's possible he asked for them, but keep in mind that Flo was in the cockpit taking notes. perhaps she got confused, I don't know?

Could be..though I think it was from Alice's interview.

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If it's not a mix up. the FBI held this part back....

[georger]

I'm looking at the old transcripts. I recall them stating they didn't have any maps, or plates. I found one statement so far. "we haven't got the maps out here and haven't had a chance to look at it....end quote.

I know, but it just sounds like he was in more of the loop about the decision of where they were going than we've been led to believe. In the interviews, it is written as if they are discussing landing stop with the hijacker and he wanted maps.
I get the feeling that events were a lot more fluid than the way they read off of the transcripts.... but I've not gotten out my hi-lighter yet and read the interviews with the transcripts in hand....so I might be reading it wrong..

But hey, I'm just glad that someone got this to you and you posted it....we need something new on the case to delve into - keep it interesting...

Either Flo or Tina say in the new pages they had the feeling he had no firm destination in mind ? His original request is Mexico City. Second request: anywhere in Mexico. Must not stop anywhere in the USA He even mentions Havana. He is then quick to reassure Tina they are not going to Havana.

Somehow this 'technical expert' on the 727 and avionics screwed up on simple fuel consumption and mileage of a 727 in the config he himself ordered. Doesnt sound like a technical expert to me!  Fact is he requested places unreachable!

That doesn't sound like somebody with a firm destination in mind? It almost sounds like a wacko out for a joy ride? San Francisco and Phoenix get rejected - he settles on Reno suggested by the crew.

Given this wobbling around in uncertainty and lack of very basic technical knowledge, what good are maps to him if he doen't even have a destination!     Maybe he is someone who except for a few cities doesn't know the United States well? But he does seem to know Mexico and says very clearly he wants to go there; his first choice.

Most incredibly of all, he says they will go to a pleasant place which could be the Minnesota Vikings game for all anyone knows!

[edit] Here's the quote; " _____ said the man spoke of going to Mexico City, Phoenix, or San Francisco. She said that he did not appear to know exactly where he was destined for.  She asked if they (stews) were going to go with him but he did not reply. She finally asked if the stews could leave the plane and the man replied”Sure go ahead” in a calm uninterested manner.

[georger]

Bohan's wife has none of her husband's flight logs etc! Why would she!? She never had. Nada! We went over all of this years ago ... its a dead end. Go back and read the thread at DZ!

Bohan's widow told me she had her husband's flight logs, and remembers him telling his story of November 24, 1971.  "We went over all of this years ago."  Really? You mean, you went over this years ago and made your pontifical announcement back then?

This is news! When did she tell you she had his log books? In your previous posts at DZ all you said was, quote: "Sharon promised me that she would peruse Tom’s log books and find the names of his flight crew for that night. She confirmed that Captain Bohan was flying a 727 from Sea-Tac to Portland, and was a few minutes behind Flight 305."

Pursuing is not having.

"She also said that Tom became a “good friend” of Ralph Himmelsbach.

Captain Bohan was a big fan of the DB Cooper caper, and Sharon said they went to the Ariel Tavern on several occasions for the Cooper Daze Festival, and that they frequently roamed the woods looking for evidence of DB Cooper.
(This post was edited by BruceSmith on Jan 30, 2012, 3:28 PM)"


 

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"at this point, she gave him a paper sheet giving instructions on how to jump and she said he didn't need that"

He also had opened the reserve chute before all the chutes were on board.

Seeing Cooper tying the money to his waste wasn't the last noted evidence before closing the curtain. she pleaded with him to take the bomb. he stated he would either take it with him, or disarm it..

[smokin99]

I'm looking at the old transcripts. I recall them stating they didn't have any maps, or plates. I found one statement so far. "we haven't got the maps out here and haven't had a chance to look at it....end quote.

I know, but it just sounds like he was in more of the loop about the decision of where they were going than we've been led to believe. In the interviews, it is written as if they are discussing landing stop with the hijacker and he wanted maps.
I get the feeling that events were a lot more fluid than the way they read off of the transcripts.... but I've not gotten out my hi-lighter yet and read the interviews with the transcripts in hand....so I might be reading it wrong..

But hey, I'm just glad that someone got this to you and you posted it....we need something new on the case to delve into - keep it interesting...

Either Flo or Tina say in the new pages they had the feeling he had no firm destination in mind ? His original request is Mexico City. Second request: anywhere in Mexico. Must not stop anywhere in the USA He even mentions Havana. He is then quick to reassure Tina they are not going to Havana.

Somehow this 'technical expert' on the 727 and avionics screwed up on simple fuel consumption and mileage of a 727 in the config he himself ordered. Doesnt sound like a technical expert to me!  Fact is he requested places unreachable!

That doesn't sound like somebody with a firm destination in mind? It almost sounds like a wacko out for a joy ride? San Francisco and Phoenix get rejected - he settles on Reno suggested by the crew.

Given this wobbling around in uncertainty and lack of very basic technical knowledge, what good are maps to him if he doen't even have a destination!     Maybe he is someone who except for a few cities doesn't know the United States well? But he does seem to know Mexico and says very clearly he wants to go there; his first choice.

Most incredibly of all, he says they will go to a pleasant place which could be the Minnesota Vikings game for all anyone knows!

[edit] Here's the quote; " _____ said the man spoke of going to Mexico City, Phoenix, or San Francisco. She said that he did not appear to know exactly where he was destined for.  She asked if they (stews) were going to go with him but he did not reply. She finally asked if the stews could leave the plane and the man replied”Sure go ahead” in a calm uninterested manner.

I didn't say he needed maps just that he requested them. If the plan was to jump before Portland or fairly soon after takeoff, as many suspect, destination is not relevant other than maybe to general direction -point being maybe it was all part of the keep em guessing conversation he was having with them. Or Wanted to keep an eye on them...or after the back and forth on destination he says just get some maps...

Another point about transcripts-- unless you can tell from the context, sometimes it's hard to know from transcripts whether something is a statement or question without punctuation when u can't hear voice inflection. Generic example: "OK to land" could be a statement that A pilot is ready to land or a question - are you ready for me to land.

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I found more info on the original transcripts. the crew also asked where the meals were, and wondered how they got on the plane. Cooper gave the ok to retrieve the meals, and the maps. Paul S. appears to have supplied the maps to the crew...

[smokin99]

"at this point, she gave him a paper sheet giving instructions on how to jump and she said he didn't need that"

He also had opened the reserve chute before all the chutes were on board.

Seeing Cooper tying the money to his waste wasn't the last noted evidence before closing the curtain. she pleaded with him to take the bomb. he stated he would either take it with him, or disarm it..

Yes some of this is very interesting in light of what we've been told. Of course there are a lot of missing pages still so there may be more to story. But if I had time /inclination it would be interesting to chart out the differences.