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Re: Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5550 on: November 10, 2018, 08:10:27 PM »
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Route:a way or course taken in getting from a starting point to a destination..

"westerly" makes no difference.

Cooper giving directions of getting from Seattle to Mexico City would be a route taken. flying easterly, or north, west is not a route. he gave no indications as to getting anywhere except using Mexico....

I think he's playing up the "Northwest" Orient name.
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Re: Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5551 on: November 10, 2018, 10:17:23 PM »
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Cooper picked no route..he picked a destination.

What's with the need to correct? Portland to Seattle is a route. Move on.
 

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Re: Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5552 on: November 10, 2018, 10:40:44 PM »
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Cooper picked no route..he picked a destination.

What's with the need to correct? Portland to Seattle is a route. Move on.

Because he didn't have a route...that's why?
Portland to Seattle was not in his demands. that was made by Northwest. the same who made the ROUTE for Cooper  8)
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5553 on: November 11, 2018, 01:42:00 AM »
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I received a PM about the "Thanksgiving" theme. anyone else having trouble reading the theme? you have the option to change it back to the default theme or choose another one if you don't like this one....

Im seeing the regular page - red and black.. is there some option button to click?
 

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Re: Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5554 on: November 11, 2018, 01:57:07 AM »
A route is a path or in this case an airway, example Victor-23. A destination is a place, eg. Mexico City or Ogden Utah. Cooper never specified a route. At first he never specified a destination although he said the plane could not land anywhere in the US! He told Tina they were not going to Cuba. He told her they were going to "a place you would like", whatever that meant. Later Mexico City came up, but then Reno was negotiated.

Cooper never specified any route to anywhere.     
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5555 on: November 11, 2018, 10:03:27 AM »
I told you in a PM that I would try and see if I could change the theme back. it appears it worked. you said it was hard to read.

 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5556 on: November 11, 2018, 11:02:39 AM »
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I received a PM about the "Thanksgiving" theme. anyone else having trouble reading the theme? you have the option to change it back to the default theme or choose another one if you don't like this one....

It looks great! Easy to read as well. I'll be curious to see what the Christmas theme looks like.
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Re: Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5557 on: November 11, 2018, 01:47:29 PM »
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Cooper picked no route..he picked a destination.

What's with the need to correct? Portland to Seattle is a route. Move on.

Because he didn't have a route...that's why?
Portland to Seattle was not in his demands. that was made by Northwest. the same who made the ROUTE for Cooper  8)

Is this place just designed for arguments?

He bought a plane ticket. The plane had a route. That route was from Portland to Seatlle. Nothing further being inferred.

What is it you think I am trying to say? And why the cool guy emoji? Nobody said anything controversial and nobody shot anything down. He picked flight 305 from Portland to Seattle. Not 304, not 306. Why? Who the fuck knows. Why is this something to try and argue with? Again, who the fuck knows.

I'm skipping Portland.
 

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Re: Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5558 on: November 11, 2018, 02:32:10 PM »
Sometimes people turn disagreements, or misunderstandings into arguments...kind of makes it built in, no?

If you read my statements they were towards what Cooper demanded. it appears you were talking about the route from Portland to Seattle. that's called a misunderstanding and was not argumentative nor was it intended to be.

You got upset telling me to "move on" over a misunderstanding and now decide not to attend Portland, really?
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Re: Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #5559 on: November 11, 2018, 07:13:45 PM »
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Sometimes people turn disagreements, or misunderstandings into arguments...kind of makes it built in, no?

If you read my statements they were towards what Cooper demanded. it appears you were talking about the route from Portland to Seattle. that's called a misunderstanding and was not argumentative nor was it intended to be.

You got upset telling me to "move on" over a misunderstanding and now decide not to attend Portland, really?

Skipping Portland because I can't squeeze it in. Just gave up at that moment because I was pissed off. But, there's not much of a way for me to get out of working with the staff I have.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5560 on: November 11, 2018, 07:40:57 PM »
Trust me, I know the feeling. I miss a lot of things due to my work. at least it will be recorded for all to see.
 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5561 on: November 13, 2018, 11:45:48 AM »
Yet another new DBC suspect.

The link below is to an article written by Douglas Perry and posted on the Oregon Live (Oregonian) website. The 2018 DB Cooper Conference is mentioned at the very end. Also, Sheridan Peterson gets a shout out.

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5562 on: November 13, 2018, 12:10:38 PM »
I noticed they use a picture of the 727 pointing to what everyone believes to be the stairs. actually, it's the flaps. stairs are further back and wouldn't be noticed unless they were open..
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5563 on: November 13, 2018, 01:24:52 PM »
Saw that blooper too Shutter. At least it was a 727. On my first trip to the UK I saw a "weird looking 727". On closer inspection, it was a Hawker Sidley Trident. This particular model (3B) had four engines, three mounted 727 style and a small fourth one in the tail cone. The Trident was a far more advanced aircraft than the early 727s offering full blind autolanding capability utilizing three duplicate autopilots with a 2:1 voting priority and the ability to deploy thrust reversers prior to touchdown to shorten landing distances. In spite of these advantages only slightly more than a hundred were sold compared to over a thousand 727s.

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5564 on: November 13, 2018, 01:44:35 PM »
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Yet another new DBC suspect.

The link below is to an article written by Douglas Perry and posted on the Oregon Live (Oregonian) website. The 2018 DB Cooper Conference is mentioned at the very end. Also, Sheridan Peterson gets a shout out.

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"The data analyst says the two men's military backgrounds -- Smith served in the Navy -- and long experience in the railroad business would have made it possible for either of them to successfully parachute from a low-flying jetliner, find railroad tracks once they were on the ground, and hop a freight train back to the East Coast. Poring over a 1971 railroad atlas, the hijacked plane's flight path and the skyjacker's likely jump zone, he determined that no matter where D.B. Cooper landed, he would have been no more than 5-to-7 miles from tracks."

When you can't come up with a plausible post jump egress story, use a freight train.  Hopping a moving freight train safely is nearly impossible unless it is going VERY slow. My Dad was homeless during the Great Depression until he enrolled in the CCC. He and many others in his situation hopped freights for transportations to new places where they hoped to find work or handouts. He said that there was no way to safely get into a boxcar unless you boarded a stopped or nearly stopped train with the door open, conditions found in switchyards and sidings. He said it did not much good to hop onto a moving car on the steps as you could only go up the ladder to the top of the car unless it was a gondola or flatcar offering no shelter.

Would be interesting to see what the average speeds of freight trains near the projected Cooper landing zone were. Maybe if there were steep grades, boarding a slow uphill freight might be possible.

So how does a Navy non aviation background "ma[k]e it possible... to successfully parachute from a low-flying jetliner"? The Elsinore skydiving training is 100% speculation as far as Smith is concerned. Also, do RR shops really have titanium (Snow questions whether titanium was on the tie), bismuth and the other exotic tie materials?

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