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« Reply #5070 on: June 17, 2018, 03:42:56 PM »
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How much detail has been released about passengers, crew members, and airline/airport personnel?  Is every one of the passengers accounted for? Pictures? Names verified, addresses verified?  Some investigators assumed he had help, maybe even from an employee.  However, if they never found DB Cooper, then they don't know how to find similarities between him and others (related, worked together, served together, lived near each other). 

I'm not trying to start a conspiracy discussion, but it is standard practice to vet out all witnesses and relatives.  Am I safe in assuming it was done?  The descriptions were all over the place, the composites were all over the place.  Maybe he didn't act alone.  For the record, I definitely do not think Flo, Bill Mitchell, or Ratazack were involved.

And ... what of the interviews that have been made public so far? Is that everything? No real Q&A in any of the interviews made public.There has to be more - ??  ??? 

Where does a "green" paper bag come from? Greeny's Hardware? Green's Donuts? The Green Room at Boeing?  :-\
That's occurred to me, too, Georger. The transcripts feel incomplete. For example, I wonder if the Simmons couple actually were interviewed. It seems weird for them to go public with all this detail if they initially told the FBI they never saw the guy, evading interview. I'm Canadian, and if two of your men in black showed up at my door tomorrow, I'd tell them anything they wanted to know about anything (I'm even scared of your Customs dudes, and I'd declare chewing gum). Who'd go on TV and say they saw stuff they told the feds they never saw?   As I believe 377 has mentioned before, the FBI could still be holding evidence back so as to confirm a future suspect.

The legal status for heirs is also something I've wondered about - mainly because it would provide a reason the person who pulled off the crime of the century didn't leave a bragging note to be opened after his death proving who he was.  Alive or dead today (and the odds are the latter, even if he survived the jump - how many surviving suspects are there? Like 2 or 3?) he wouldn't confess ever if his kids would lose out for it. This is the only reason I can think of for him not ensuring his name in the history books after his death - apart from either lack of pride in the "achievement" and/or private amusement over permanent anonymity.

The small green paper bag seen by Tina (which I still maintain was likely in his pocket and separate from the light-colored "sack" Mitchell and House mention in great detail) is, of course, totally up for spec, though when I think of really small bags, I think either pharmacy, hardware store, or candy store. The first two are more likely to me, but honestly there's no solid proof he didn't just have a taste for Tootsie Rolls.
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« Reply #5071 on: June 17, 2018, 06:10:45 PM »
Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.
 
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« Reply #5072 on: June 17, 2018, 06:18:03 PM »
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Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.

i tend to agree with your line of thinking. What’s to say that Coop will simply leave a death bed note to read “ I was Cooper and here’s a $20 I kept as proof “. That’s why those early phony letter are meaningless to me. A simple $20 would have convinced everyone.
 

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« Reply #5073 on: June 17, 2018, 11:57:00 PM »
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Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.

i tend to agree with your line of thinking. What’s to say that Coop will simply leave a death bed note to read “ I was Cooper and here’s a $20 I kept as proof “. That’s why those early phony letter are meaningless to me. A simple $20 would have convinced everyone.


I am also intrigued by the 'stained hands' accounts that are emerging elsewhere, attributed to FBI agents Bishop, Rhodes, and Calme. That is nowhere in the crew witness testimony released by the FBI to the public. Strange.

BTW Ckret downplayed all of the latter-day Simmons testimony saying ... 'they didnt say any of this in their original interview'.  Ckret basically said he thought they were glamorizing or making things up in an attempt to get publicity. His comments are at DZ.
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« Reply #5074 on: June 18, 2018, 09:29:13 AM »
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Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.

i tend to agree with your line of thinking. What’s to say that Coop will simply leave a death bed note to read “ I was Cooper and here’s a $20 I kept as proof “. That’s why those early phony letter are meaningless to me. A simple $20 would have convinced everyone.


I am also intrigued by the 'stained hands' accounts that are emerging elsewhere, attributed to FBI agents Bishop, Rhodes, and Calme. That is nowhere in the crew witness testimony released by the FBI to the public. Strange.

BTW Ckret downplayed all of the latter-day Simmons testimony saying ... 'they didnt say any of this in their original interview'.  Ckret basically said he thought they were glamorizing or making things up in an attempt to get publicity. His comments are at DZ.

Are the stained hands in reference to cigarette smoking or something else, such as hair dye? Was there ever any commentary on him dyeing his eyebrows too?
 

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« Reply #5075 on: June 18, 2018, 10:46:48 AM »
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Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.

i tend to agree with your line of thinking. What’s to say that Coop will simply leave a death bed note to read “ I was Cooper and here’s a $20 I kept as proof “. That’s why those early phony letter are meaningless to me. A simple $20 would have convinced everyone.


I am also intrigued by the 'stained hands' accounts that are emerging elsewhere, attributed to FBI agents Bishop, Rhodes, and Calme. That is nowhere in the crew witness testimony released by the FBI to the public. Strange.

BTW Ckret downplayed all of the latter-day Simmons testimony saying ... 'they didnt say any of this in their original interview'.  Ckret basically said he thought they were glamorizing or making things up in an attempt to get publicity. His comments are at DZ.

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Of course the FBI withholds info and limits what the public gets... FBI agents may reveal things not public..

Does anybody have any idea about Cooper having a SCAR, not in "public" FBI witness accounts but rumours are that FBI is withholding info.. any sources for this??

(JW kept pushing the Cooper Scar, but is not credible and has no source)

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« Reply #5076 on: June 18, 2018, 01:55:28 PM »
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Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.

i tend to agree with your line of thinking. What’s to say that Coop will simply leave a death bed note to read “ I was Cooper and here’s a $20 I kept as proof “. That’s why those early phony letter are meaningless to me. A simple $20 would have convinced everyone.


I am also intrigued by the 'stained hands' accounts that are emerging elsewhere, attributed to FBI agents Bishop, Rhodes, and Calme. That is nowhere in the crew witness testimony released by the FBI to the public. Strange.

BTW Ckret downplayed all of the latter-day Simmons testimony saying ... 'they didnt say any of this in their original interview'.  Ckret basically said he thought they were glamorizing or making things up in an attempt to get publicity. His comments are at DZ.

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Of course the FBI withholds info and limits what the public gets... FBI agents may reveal things not public..

Does anybody have any idea about Cooper having a SCAR, not in "public" FBI witness accounts but rumours are that FBI is withholding info.. any sources for this??

(JW kept pushing the Cooper Scar, but is not credible and has no source)

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who is JW ?

I am disturbed that the crew interviews dont mention nicotine stained fingers. My feeling is, tie bears out heavy smoker - but check with Tom ?
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5077 on: June 18, 2018, 01:56:58 PM »
Shutter: please open the Suspects and DNA threads back up. No reason to keep them locked. Thanks.
 

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« Reply #5078 on: June 18, 2018, 04:07:42 PM »
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Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.

i tend to agree with your line of thinking. What’s to say that Coop will simply leave a death bed note to read “ I was Cooper and here’s a $20 I kept as proof “. That’s why those early phony letter are meaningless to me. A simple $20 would have convinced everyone.


I am also intrigued by the 'stained hands' accounts that are emerging elsewhere, attributed to FBI agents Bishop, Rhodes, and Calme. That is nowhere in the crew witness testimony released by the FBI to the public. Strange.

BTW Ckret downplayed all of the latter-day Simmons testimony saying ... 'they didnt say any of this in their original interview'.  Ckret basically said he thought they were glamorizing or making things up in an attempt to get publicity. His comments are at DZ.

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Of course the FBI withholds info and limits what the public gets... FBI agents may reveal things not public..

Does anybody have any idea about Cooper having a SCAR, not in "public" FBI witness accounts but rumours are that FBI is withholding info.. any sources for this??

(JW kept pushing the Cooper Scar, but is not credible and has no source)

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Flyjack: I'm with you on the part about the scar.  If anyone asks me to prove it, I can't. I wasn't there to see his hands, but then again no one on this site was.  I do know that there are potentially hundreds of thousands of pages of documents that have not been released.  I do believe the Citizen Sleuths probably have seen a lot more than most of us, and therefore their observations should hold some weight.  There is probably a lot more that we don't know than there is of information we do know. Martin Andrade would have to verify, but didn't Gunther's character have a scar on his hand?
 

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« Reply #5079 on: June 18, 2018, 06:20:33 PM »
Bruce Smith is Away  hasnt been present to even monitor his forum or run it. Hasnt responded to email and phone for days. Meanwhile idiots like TC (who is not Tom Colbert) continue to launch personal attacks on Smith's socalled forum. The Cooper vortex lives and breeds on Smith's free range chicken forum!

Smith's last known response to anyone was May 27, 2018.
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« Reply #5080 on: June 18, 2018, 09:19:15 PM »
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Bruce Smith is Away  hasnt been present to even monitor his forum or run it. Hasnt responded to email and phone for days. Meanwhile idiots like TC (who is not Tom Colbert) continue to launch personal attacks on Smith's socalled forum. The Cooper vortex lives and breeds on Smith's free range chicken forum!

Smith's last known response to anyone was May 27, 2018.

well, not much we can do about it..they want to tie up the thread, well that's there business...lets just leave that thread there and ignore what is going on until Bruce gets things back in order....when ever that happens...
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« Reply #5081 on: June 18, 2018, 10:16:09 PM »
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Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.

i tend to agree with your line of thinking. What’s to say that Coop will simply leave a death bed note to read “ I was Cooper and here’s a $20 I kept as proof “. That’s why those early phony letter are meaningless to me. A simple $20 would have convinced everyone.


I am also intrigued by the 'stained hands' accounts that are emerging elsewhere, attributed to FBI agents Bishop, Rhodes, and Calme. That is nowhere in the crew witness testimony released by the FBI to the public. Strange.

BTW Ckret downplayed all of the latter-day Simmons testimony saying ... 'they didnt say any of this in their original interview'.  Ckret basically said he thought they were glamorizing or making things up in an attempt to get publicity. His comments are at DZ.

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Of course the FBI withholds info and limits what the public gets... FBI agents may reveal things not public..

Does anybody have any idea about Cooper having a SCAR, not in "public" FBI witness accounts but rumours are that FBI is withholding info.. any sources for this??

(JW kept pushing the Cooper Scar, but is not credible and has no source)

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On this forum Sailshaw was saying this and there was a Cooper sketch showing a pic of it, and also comparing a scar on Sheridan Peterson's face. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login reply number 22 shows the pic
 

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« Reply #5082 on: June 18, 2018, 10:23:08 PM »
with holding features of a suspect wouldn't be a good idea..that's how you find them..they hold back things said or done that would help weed out other suspects..they have something that can weed them out...or something you just can't speculate like other things..
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« Reply #5083 on: June 18, 2018, 11:40:20 PM »
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Lynn-I agree.  I think even after all these years that the FBI still has a few "holdbacks", pieces of evidence or testimony that only a few people know about.  I also agree that he could very well not have told anyone, for fear his children/grandchildren etc. could suffer.  I believe the personal satisfaction of the jump and then evading the law for all those years would be enough for him.

i tend to agree with your line of thinking. What’s to say that Coop will simply leave a death bed note to read “ I was Cooper and here’s a $20 I kept as proof “. That’s why those early phony letter are meaningless to me. A simple $20 would have convinced everyone.


I am also intrigued by the 'stained hands' accounts that are emerging elsewhere, attributed to FBI agents Bishop, Rhodes, and Calme. That is nowhere in the crew witness testimony released by the FBI to the public. Strange.

BTW Ckret downplayed all of the latter-day Simmons testimony saying ... 'they didnt say any of this in their original interview'.  Ckret basically said he thought they were glamorizing or making things up in an attempt to get publicity. His comments are at DZ.

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Of course the FBI withholds info and limits what the public gets... FBI agents may reveal things not public..

Does anybody have any idea about Cooper having a SCAR, not in "public" FBI witness accounts but rumours are that FBI is withholding info.. any sources for this??

(JW kept pushing the Cooper Scar, but is not credible and has no source)

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On this forum Sailshaw was saying this and there was a Cooper sketch showing a pic of it, and also comparing a scar on Sheridan Peterson's face. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login reply number 22 shows the pic

photo, sketch, diagram ... ? Maybe Cooper was the type that used to burn himself with a lighter?  >:D
 

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« Reply #5084 on: June 19, 2018, 04:14:03 PM »
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with holding features of a suspect wouldn't be a good idea..that's how you find them..they hold back things said or done that would help weed out other suspects..they have something that can weed them out...or something you just can't speculate like other things..

They withed the turkey neck feature until Gray touted it. So much about the Cooper case just does not make sense. I sometimes cant decide which is the bigger mystery: Cooper or 'the case about Cooper'. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. Its an FBI investigation run amuck!
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