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« Reply #4905 on: May 04, 2018, 12:13:54 AM »
The Decorah Eagles, tired and wet from searching for Cooper.

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When Cooper twenties or a piece of Cooper turn up in the nest, I will let ya know.  :bravo:

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« Reply #4906 on: May 04, 2018, 01:38:50 PM »
Vultures would have been circling and scavenging Cooper's body if he died on land. Almost no carrion escapes their attention, even in thick cover. I'll bet a lot of hunters in the search area were investigating Vulture flocks in the weeks following the heist. Some species of Vultures have keen olfactory senses but most rely solely on vision. Not sure which kind dwell in the NORJACK LZ area.

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« Reply #4907 on: May 04, 2018, 02:42:42 PM »
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Vultures would have been circling and scavenging Cooper's body if he died on land. Almost no carrion escapes their attention, even in thick cover. I'll bet a lot of hunters in the search area were investigating Vulture flocks in the weeks following the heist. Some species of Vultures have keen olfactory senses but most rely solely on vision. Not sure which kind dwell in the NORJACK LZ area.

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Locals looked for that ... no reports even in 302's of feeding activity seen and investigated.

You just opened up a brand new box for TC to check - will include this as a playing card in the Great Cooper Movie Game. Price just went up by .50c !  :rofl:
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #4908 on: May 04, 2018, 10:06:11 PM »
Are there vultures in that part of the country in late November? I know turkey vultures are migratory but here in the south they're here year round.

 

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« Reply #4909 on: May 05, 2018, 01:07:42 AM »
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Are there vultures in that part of the country in late November? I know turkey vultures are migratory but here in the south they're here year round.

I have personally never seen a vulture in Washington or Oregon.  Also, it snowed a few days after the hijacking and I doubt if any bird can detect a dead body under a blanket of snow.
 

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« Reply #4910 on: May 05, 2018, 01:14:44 AM »
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Are there vultures in that part of the country in late November? I know turkey vultures are migratory but here in the south they're here year round.

I have personally never seen a vulture in Washington or Oregon.  Also, it snowed a few days after the hijacking and I doubt if any bird can detect a dead body under a blanket of snow.

Nonsense. Birds can detect food well below 3' of snow! Vultures, owls, eagles, and other birds of prey are all native to Washington State. See:  List of birds of Washington (state)  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)   ............. dont ask why this url isnt working!

Partial list:
Ducks, geese, and waterfowl New World quail Pheasants, grouse, and allies Grebes Pigeons and doves Cuckoos Nightjars and allies Swifts Hummingbirds Rails, gallinules, and coots Cranes Stilts and avocets Oystercatchers Plovers and lapwings Sandpipers and allies Skuas and jaegers Auks, murres, and puffins Gulls, terns, and skimmers Tropicbirds Loons Albatrosses Shearwaters and petrels Storm-petrels Frigatebirds Boobies and gannets Cormorants Pelicans Herons, egrets, and bitterns Ibises and spoonbills New World vultures Osprey Hawks, kites, and eagles Barn-owls Typical owls Kingfishers Woodpeckers Caracaras and falcons Tyrant flycatchers Shrikes Vireos Jays, crows, magpies, and ravens Larks Swallows and martins Chickadees and titmice Long-tailed tits Nuthatches Treecreepers Wrens Gnatcatchers Dippers Kinglets Old World flycatchers Thrushes Mockingbirds and thrashers Starlings Waxwings Silky-flycatchers Accentors Old World sparrows Wagtails and pipits Finches Longspurs and snow buntings Old World buntings New World sparrows Yellow-breasted chat Icterids Wood-warblers Cardinals and allies References See also External links
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« Reply #4911 on: May 05, 2018, 01:32:47 AM »
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Are there vultures in that part of the country in late November? I know turkey vultures are migratory but here in the south they're here year round.

I have personally never seen a vulture in Washington or Oregon.  Also, it snowed a few days after the hijacking and I doubt if any bird can detect a dead body under a blanket of snow.

Nonsense. Birds can detect food well below 3' of snow! Vultures, owls, eagles, and other birds of prey are all native to Washington State. See:  List of birds of Washington (state)  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)   ............. dont ask why this url isnt working!

Partial list:
Ducks, geese, and waterfowl New World quail Pheasants, grouse, and allies Grebes Pigeons and doves Cuckoos Nightjars and allies Swifts Hummingbirds Rails, gallinules, and coots Cranes Stilts and avocets Oystercatchers Plovers and lapwings Sandpipers and allies Skuas and jaegers Auks, murres, and puffins Gulls, terns, and skimmers Tropicbirds Loons Albatrosses Shearwaters and petrels Storm-petrels Frigatebirds Boobies and gannets Cormorants Pelicans Herons, egrets, and bitterns Ibises and spoonbills New World vultures Osprey Hawks, kites, and eagles Barn-owls Typical owls Kingfishers Woodpeckers Caracaras and falcons Tyrant flycatchers Shrikes Vireos Jays, crows, magpies, and ravens Larks Swallows and martins Chickadees and titmice Long-tailed tits Nuthatches Treecreepers Wrens Gnatcatchers Dippers Kinglets Old World flycatchers Thrushes Mockingbirds and thrashers Starlings Waxwings Silky-flycatchers Accentors Old World sparrows Wagtails and pipits Finches Longspurs and snow buntings Old World buntings New World sparrows Yellow-breasted chat Icterids Wood-warblers Cardinals and allies References See also External links

Okay, I'll confess that I am not a bird watcher and never have been.  I do have some knowledge of birds that I might meet several thousand feet in the air.  And once upon a time, I collided with a hawk almost head on.  I didn't see it (and I was looking around) until we were only a few feet apart and have no idea why it didn't take evasive action.  The hawk went down in flames. 
 

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« Reply #4912 on: May 05, 2018, 01:50:20 AM »
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Are there vultures in that part of the country in late November? I know turkey vultures are migratory but here in the south they're here year round.

I have personally never seen a vulture in Washington or Oregon.  Also, it snowed a few days after the hijacking and I doubt if any bird can detect a dead body under a blanket of snow.

Nonsense. Birds can detect food well below 3' of snow! Vultures, owls, eagles, and other birds of prey are all native to Washington State. See:  List of birds of Washington (state)  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)   ............. dont ask why this url isnt working!

Partial list:
Ducks, geese, and waterfowl New World quail Pheasants, grouse, and allies Grebes Pigeons and doves Cuckoos Nightjars and allies Swifts Hummingbirds Rails, gallinules, and coots Cranes Stilts and avocets Oystercatchers Plovers and lapwings Sandpipers and allies Skuas and jaegers Auks, murres, and puffins Gulls, terns, and skimmers Tropicbirds Loons Albatrosses Shearwaters and petrels Storm-petrels Frigatebirds Boobies and gannets Cormorants Pelicans Herons, egrets, and bitterns Ibises and spoonbills New World vultures Osprey Hawks, kites, and eagles Barn-owls Typical owls Kingfishers Woodpeckers Caracaras and falcons Tyrant flycatchers Shrikes Vireos Jays, crows, magpies, and ravens Larks Swallows and martins Chickadees and titmice Long-tailed tits Nuthatches Treecreepers Wrens Gnatcatchers Dippers Kinglets Old World flycatchers Thrushes Mockingbirds and thrashers Starlings Waxwings Silky-flycatchers Accentors Old World sparrows Wagtails and pipits Finches Longspurs and snow buntings Old World buntings New World sparrows Yellow-breasted chat Icterids Wood-warblers Cardinals and allies References See also External links

Okay, I'll confess that I am not a bird watcher and never have been.  I do have some knowledge of birds that I might meet several thousand feet in the air.  And once upon a time, I collided with a hawk almost head on.  I didn't see it (and I was looking around) until we were only a few feet apart and have no idea why it didn't take evasive action.  The hawk went down in flames.

Have spent a lot of time in Nature including on horse back in storms - have seen hawks and eagles, owls, etc all come out of nowhere even in snow storms, hunting - took a hat right off my head once on horseback - horse went nuts in the attack - horses' eyes are very vulnerable to a bird attack - have watched eagles and vultures etc digging in deep snow for a carcass they smelled out ...

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #4913 on: May 05, 2018, 01:30:49 PM »
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Are there vultures in that part of the country in late November? I know turkey vultures are migratory but here in the south they're here year round.

I have personally never seen a vulture in Washington or Oregon.  Also, it snowed a few days after the hijacking and I doubt if any bird can detect a dead body under a blanket of snow.

Once again the weather in Portland area comes up and I can State factually there was NO snow in Portland on Nov 24, 1971 nor the few days after that date. I lived there and know that as a fact. Checking the weather will clearly verify that. Also there are definitely Turkey Vultures in BOTH Oregon and Washington. I have seen them on my property several times feasting on road kill etc.
 

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« Reply #4914 on: May 05, 2018, 02:34:38 PM »
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Are there vultures in that part of the country in late November? I know turkey vultures are migratory but here in the south they're here year round.

I have personally never seen a vulture in Washington or Oregon.  Also, it snowed a few days after the hijacking and I doubt if any bird can detect a dead body under a blanket of snow.

Once again the weather in Portland area comes up and I can State factually there was NO snow in Portland on Nov 24, 1971 nor the few days after that date. I lived there and know that as a fact. Checking the weather will clearly verify that. Also there are definitely Turkey Vultures in BOTH Oregon and Washington. I have seen them on my property several times feasting on road kill etc.

Okay, okay, I lived east of the Cascades and near the Columbia River in Washington.  I must have skipped class the day that Turkey Vultures and their habitat was discussed. ::)

But as far as I can remember, I still never saw one.
 

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« Reply #4915 on: May 05, 2018, 03:02:46 PM »

Turkey Vulture  (Portland)

Meet Ruby

Hatched: Spring 2007

Arrived at Audubon Portland: Sept. 28, 2007

Sex: Female

Expected lifespan: 15-20 years in wild; 20-25 in captivity

History: In 2007, a woman called the Wildlife Care Center to report that an apparently tame Turkey Vulture was hanging around her property near McMinnville, Ore. It had flown down to the ground and thrown an acorn at someone’s feet, slept on the woman's porch, followed her around and into her barn, and jumped onto her arm.

Care center staff made numerous calls to find out where Ruby had come from, but could not find a history. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife permit department and care center staff determined that Ruby had probably been illegally taken from the wild as a baby and imprinted onto humans. As a result, Ruby cannot be returned to the wild, where she would most likely fall prey to predators, be hurt by humans, or  be taken in as a pet.

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« Reply #4916 on: May 05, 2018, 03:06:10 PM »
when you look at a monthly calendar for November 1971 it doesn't show any snow during the week previous, or after the hijacking..it reports snow on December 8, 1971..a little over two inches of rain recorded for the month of November..
 

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« Reply #4917 on: May 05, 2018, 04:32:00 PM »
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Turkey Vulture  (Portland)

Meet Ruby

Hatched: Spring 2007

Arrived at Audubon Portland: Sept. 28, 2007

Sex: Female

Expected lifespan: 15-20 years in wild; 20-25 in captivity

History: In 2007, a woman called the Wildlife Care Center to report that an apparently tame Turkey Vulture was hanging around her property near McMinnville, Ore. It had flown down to the ground and thrown an acorn at someone’s feet, slept on the woman's porch, followed her around and into her barn, and jumped onto her arm.

Care center staff made numerous calls to find out where Ruby had come from, but could not find a history. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife permit department and care center staff determined that Ruby had probably been illegally taken from the wild as a baby and imprinted onto humans. As a result, Ruby cannot be returned to the wild, where she would most likely fall prey to predators, be hurt by humans, or  be taken in as a pet.

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That doesn't look like anything that I have seen in Washington or Oregon.
 

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« Reply #4918 on: May 05, 2018, 04:40:58 PM »
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when you look at a monthly calendar for November 1971 it doesn't show any snow during the week previous, or after the hijacking..it reports snow on December 8, 1971..a little over two inches of rain recorded for the month of November..

I’ve lived in Portland area most of my life. November is a very rainy month usually as my 28 years of carrying mail out can factually attest to. If you looked up November of 1971 and it said we ONLY had slightly over 2 inches, that is well below average rainfall for November in Portland. I believe your figures but WOW ..... that is low for November. We had over 2 inches a day here in parts of Washington near me about 3 weeks ago !
 

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« Reply #4919 on: May 05, 2018, 05:02:21 PM »
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Turkey Vulture  (Portland)

Meet Ruby

Hatched: Spring 2007

Arrived at Audubon Portland: Sept. 28, 2007

Sex: Female

Expected lifespan: 15-20 years in wild; 20-25 in captivity

History: In 2007, a woman called the Wildlife Care Center to report that an apparently tame Turkey Vulture was hanging around her property near McMinnville, Ore. It had flown down to the ground and thrown an acorn at someone’s feet, slept on the woman's porch, followed her around and into her barn, and jumped onto her arm.

Care center staff made numerous calls to find out where Ruby had come from, but could not find a history. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife permit department and care center staff determined that Ruby had probably been illegally taken from the wild as a baby and imprinted onto humans. As a result, Ruby cannot be returned to the wild, where she would most likely fall prey to predators, be hurt by humans, or  be taken in as a pet.

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That doesn't look like anything that I have seen in Washington or Oregon.

Your part of WA must have had no birds!  8)  :-\   Parts of Kentucky have no horses.
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