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« Reply #4785 on: April 10, 2018, 11:16:37 PM »
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sometimes one trips over there own thoughts....most agreed if McCoy was Cooper he did the second hijacking due to losing the money...I believe McCoy even stated this..

so, he hijacks the plane in November...flies to Vegas, several times, launders the money, buys 6k in airplane tickets shows no other real investments, but feels the need to do it again for 500k...shoots his mouth off the second time and gets caught, but is tight lipped during the Cooper caper?

He wore makeup even though the witnesses state differently..the makeup was so good they didn't realize they were looking at Cooper while viewing McCoy's pics, even though McCoy looks like the sketch which they believe is what ....Cooper looks like, but end up saying he's not Cooper....but really he was....got it lol

are you guys trying to kill me  :rofl:
FU Shutter.  I do believe that the Cooper witnesses may have seen Cooper in a photograph and not recognised.
 

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« Reply #4786 on: April 10, 2018, 11:20:43 PM »
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FU Shutter.

Excuse me sir!
 

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« Reply #4787 on: April 10, 2018, 11:25:52 PM »
First of all, that was a little humor I did, but it did have meaning...you claim witnesses might of seen a photo of Cooper an not know it..that means the sketch is not correct, but most put the sketch beside the suspect, so it's a little wacky...you were also implying McCoy was overlooked by them...





 

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« Reply #4788 on: April 10, 2018, 11:28:48 PM »
I don't appreciate the comment made towards me..I don't talk like that to you, or anyone else like that on this forum..

I think 3 days in the cooler will give you some reflection....
 

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« Reply #4789 on: April 11, 2018, 01:05:17 AM »
Following up on old business, recent interviews have presented new evidence.

R2 reports of flares being dropped from a plane at Eugene the week before 11/24.   It happened. The FAA and FBI got involved. The pilot and the plane involved were located/identified. There are 302s documenting the whole event, which people were talking about the evening of 11/24 after 305 cleared Eugene air space.

The Janet story.   The Galen Cook/Janet story about black suits showing up at her door and telling Janet to STFU or else!, has never been resolved. Janet's letter to the FBI did find its way to Himmelsbach and the Portland office actually received several other tips about Janet's claims. Janet and her husband were both invited and had interviews with Himmelsbach! The Portland office canvassed people at Portland and Vancouver but could find no one who corroborated Janet's story or had had a similar experience. The story faded away only to be brought up later by Richard Tosaw and then Galen Cook. Janet was not ignored and in fact Janet's husband communicated with the local Sherriff's Dept about Janet's story. There are 302's documenting the whole thing - agents remember those 302's!

Search priority in the first days:  Searches were divided into two regions: a northern search district with Portland and Seattle coordinating, and a southern search district with Eugene. Sacramento, Reno, and several other offices coordinating. This was an informal agreement but there are 302s that document this split in search efforts. Searches were done mainly by plane and helicopters supplied from a number of sources including Forest Service offices. A consensus developed that whoever Cooper was he probably was a trained individual with considerable technical skills/experience. Individuals with skydiving experience were brought in to assist all primary offices working the case (which included Reno). Searches north of Portland were hampered by bad weather for several days. The area south of Portland was far less affected and so the bulk of search flights run on the day after, occurred in that region.

Perhaps because of the influence of the sky diving community, a theory quickly developed that Cooper might have preferred to jump in the long open corridor of the Willamette valley. Some people insisted that it appeared to them that Cooper had actually steered 305 to fly over that exact area. Simultaneous with this, during the first days following 11/24, a second theory was developing in the northern district based on Cooper's last communication with the crew during the 8:05-8:10 period. The crew and especially engineers at NWA felt they had physical evidence indicating when and where Cooper jumped. [The NWA search map had yet to be drawn when these options were being debated]. In the end, the NWA search map based on physical evidence won the day.

     
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #4790 on: April 11, 2018, 04:00:32 AM »
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where do you see him in Vegas on the 22nd? records state 2nd & 3rd of November

why would he show up in Reno days before the hijacking knowing he would be there on the 24th..you really wouldn't want to do that. the records indicate a party...did he give someone his credit card, and that person called collect? it doesn't state McCoy made the collect call...also,for some reason states "possibly a collect call"

Calame's book, if I recall correctly. Maybe it was the 23rd. Tuesday.
 

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« Reply #4791 on: April 11, 2018, 04:07:48 AM »
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Where did he get the money to buy 6K worth of airplane tix to take his whole family back to NC in December?

Never heard of this either...$6,000 for tickets, really? was it 70-80 people?

6K for tix and vacation expenses - wife, two kids, and I think the sister-in-law, too. Part of this info is in Calame's book. Other info comes from a video interview with Calame, and confirmed by my conversation with Lars Larson and his interview with Calame on his radio show. Larson is convinced that DBC is McCoy.
I think credit card receipts confirm it.

For the record, I don't think McCoy is Cooper. But he may have participated. Ground team?
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« Reply #4792 on: April 11, 2018, 04:25:06 AM »
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Where did he get the money to buy 6K worth of airplane tix to take his whole family back to NC in December?

Never heard of this either...$6,000 for tickets, really? was it 70-80 people?

6K for tix and vacation expenses - wife, two kids, and I think the sister-in-law, too. Part of this info is in Calame's book. Other info comes from a video interview with Calame, and confirmed by my conversation with Lars Larson and his interview with Calame on his radio show. Larson is convinced that DBC is McCoy.
I think credit card receipts confirm it.

For the record, I don't think McCoy is Cooper. But he may have participated. Ground team?

Based on what? Cooper was a Mormon? 
 

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« Reply #4793 on: April 11, 2018, 07:05:56 AM »
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Where did he get the money to buy 6K worth of airplane tix to take his whole family back to NC in December?

Never heard of this either...$6,000 for tickets, really? was it 70-80 people?

6K for tix and vacation expenses - wife, two kids, and I think the sister-in-law, too. Part of this info is in Calame's book. Other info comes from a video interview with Calame, and confirmed by my conversation with Lars Larson and his interview with Calame on his radio show. Larson is convinced that DBC is McCoy.
I think credit card receipts confirm it.

For the record, I don't think McCoy is Cooper. But he may have participated. Ground team?


They go through his bank records in the files...hundreds are spoken, I didn't see anything in the thousands..he might of already  been spending ahead of time if this was true. 6k in 71 is almost 40k today. you would think this would be very hard evidence and mentioned a lot in the files. I'm sure we don't have everything about McCoy, but none of the financial records mentioned in these files show anything close to that number.

even if you switch McCoy from the air to the ground it doesn't make much sense. surely he would be asking Cooper where he is to wait and to make sure Cooper knew how to get to his position other than "fly south" ..I think McCoy's experience as a pilot would tell him he has to make some sort of flight plan to get to him and not just hope he fly's in his area. McCoy was active military and was critical in his moves...

I'm not sure credit card companies would allow this amount..it's way over his average spending range. 6k is a whole lot of money in 1971..paying cash would of been a better option...he had it, right?
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« Reply #4794 on: April 11, 2018, 09:03:24 AM »
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I'm letting this play out. I notified my "Gene Bland" that he needs to respond to my emails or post at the MN and explain these discrepancies. Posting falsehoods is verboten, and any further posts without a sufficient explanation is grounds for scrubbing.

BTW, Georger, I think your role as fielding the field notes and ascertaining the facts is superb. Thank you.

Do you have the ability to locate your Gene Blands IP address on your site? Shutter can on this website and you should be able to. 
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« Reply #4795 on: April 11, 2018, 09:50:57 AM »
The way I see this dice is the fact of talking directly to Gene on Facebook...he says he has never been there..the last comment made by Gene on Bruce's site is way off to how Gene writes....I tend to believe it's not him...
 

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« Reply #4796 on: April 11, 2018, 11:04:26 AM »
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The way I see this dice is the fact of talking directly to Gene on Facebook...he says he has never been there..the last comment made by Gene on Bruce's site is way off to how Gene writes....I tend to believe it's not him...

I think dice is suggesting that Bruce track the IP and possibly uncover the imposter..
 

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« Reply #4797 on: April 11, 2018, 11:14:04 AM »
Yes, that would certainly solve the issue..not sure Bruce is good at that though...
 

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« Reply #4798 on: April 11, 2018, 11:17:47 AM »
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Following up on old business, recent interviews have presented new evidence.

R2 reports of flares being dropped from a plane at Eugene the week before 11/24.   It happened. The FAA and FBI got involved. The pilot and the plane involved were located/identified. There are 302s documenting the whole event, which people were talking about the evening of 11/24 after 305 cleared Eugene air space.


Was the identity of the pilot/plane revealed??

Interesting account... from controller.. might also explain why some COMMS are missing.
 

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« Reply #4799 on: April 11, 2018, 12:21:33 PM »
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Following up on old business, recent interviews have presented new evidence.

R2 reports of flares being dropped from a plane at Eugene the week before 11/24.   It happened. The FAA and FBI got involved. The pilot and the plane involved were located/identified. There are 302s documenting the whole event, which people were talking about the evening of 11/24 after 305 cleared Eugene air space.


Was the identity of the pilot/plane revealed??

Interesting account... from controller.. might also explain why some COMMS are missing.

Flyjack, what is the source of your attachments?