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[georger]

Bruce, spare us the remote viewing and "revolutionary changes" to the forensic sciences, whatever you mean by that. 

What is the source of your discomfort? What is it about remote viewing that makes you uncomfortable and need to be spared? Aren't you curious about the capacities of the limbic system?

As for revolutionary changes, once the practice of remote viewing is consistent and reliable it will truly bring dramatic changes to the forensic sciences, no?

Bruce, the basic problem is who or what "programs" the limbic system and what its "output" is suppose to be.

Most of the people on this thread have undergone years or decades of training to condition the limbic system to produce "rational" outputs from "rational" inputs to that system as well as to make "associations" and "connections" that produce outputs that may not be apparent from the inputs.

The above is sometimes referred to as "logical thinking".  After undergoing such an intensive "mental conditioning" program, some people, me included, have great difficulty in making sense of anything that does not follow the common rules of logic, such as "illogical thinking", or anything else that does not have a logical basis.

The end result from all of the above is that some people who continue to engage in "illogical thinking", and perhaps have behavior problems based on that thinking, sometimes end up in special institutions where medical personnel actively work to help them retrain their limbic systems to produce "logical thinking" and behavior.  These institutions are sometimes called "nut houses" by the uninformed.

For your last question, could you provide a state-of-the-art update of the subject in the year 3,916 AD?

I thought the neurological centers for logical thinking were the cerebrum, frontal lobes and such, whereas the limbic system was the center for intuitive, emotional, and non-associative awareness.

As a result, I say that the most complete forensic approach would be to have synergy between the two systems.

Yes, I know my efforts to explore the unexplored realms causes some people to discount my other, more traditional work, which frustrates me. Hence, my questions as to your discomfort.

Our discomfort? It's you who are in discomfort, sir!

Millions if not billions of humans have 'looked into' the occult. It makes no difference what names or terminology you couch your narrative in. If and when you are able to demonstrate anything concrete arrived at by an act of Remote Viewing, socalled vs. all of the gobblewobble you are engaging in, be sure and let us know!

Until that time your entire work is suspect and unrealiable, which includes your book. That may be unfortunate, but it is the way it is. My guess is "American People" and "Wage Earner Sheeple" will see it that way... because essentially they have no other choice. A bird in the hand is worth ten in the promissory note you claim exists but nobody can find including you!
 
Good luck Gomer. 

[Bruce A. Smith]

It is a "put up or shut up" kind of world. I accept.

Hence, back to the drawing board, so to speak....or more to the point, perfecting my techniques and capacities.

[sailshaw]

THE AMERICAN HISTORY CHANNEL (What History Forgot) - Well the program viewed 7/7/15 about DB Cooper. Done by Joe Moniaci and not any new news and with problems in the facts in the case. Joe should have contacted Bruce Smith or at least read his book. Some of the missing facts are:
1)   No sunglasses
2)   DB  with wrong Flight Attendant (and not Tina Mucklow).
3)   Wrong tie color had a stripe on it too
4)   The front chute was tied on and probably not ever used (tinie red x on it)
5)   Promoted DB killed by jet exaust but did correct it later
6)   Most all believed DB did not survive (even though all following DB made it safely)
7)   No mention of drinks, cigarets, or  four letters to the newspapers and the FBI overlooking the DNA under the stamps and envelope flaps
   Nothing new about DB disclosed
It was a poor job of trying to get something put together in a hurry.

Bob Sailshaw
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[georger]

THE AMERICAN HISTORY CHANNEL (What History Forgot) - Well the program viewed 7/7/15 about DB Cooper. Done by Joe Moniaci and not any new news and with problems in the facts in the case. Joe should have contacted Bruce Smith or at least read his book. Some of the missing facts are:
1)   No sunglasses
2)   DB  with wrong Flight Attendant (and not Tina Mucklow).
3)   Wrong tie color had a stripe on it too
4)   The front chute was tied on and probably not ever used (tinie red x on it)
5)   Promoted DB killed by jet exaust but did correct it later
6)   Most all believed DB did not survive (even though all following DB made it safely)
7)   No mention of drinks, cigarets, or  four letters to the newspapers and the FBI overlooking the DNA under the stamps and envelope flaps
   Nothing new about DB disclosed
It was a poor job of trying to get something put together in a hurry.

Bob Sailshaw
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I think we must seriously consider that Cooper escaped on a passing asteroid.

He may not have been of this Earth! Himmelsbach may have detected that.
 

[nmiwrecks]

6)   Most all believed DB did not survive (even though all following DB made it safely)
7)   No mention of drinks, cigarets, or  four letters to the newspapers and the FBI overlooking the DNA under the stamps and envelope flaps

It was a poor job of trying to get something put together in a hurry.

Bob Sailshaw
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All the jumping skyjackers who followed Cooper survived, but were also captured soon after they jumped. 

The letter's to the press do intrigue me a bit.  I don't believe the Cooper suspect wrote those letters, but...the nature of skyjacking draws a lot of attention and the people who did these skyjackings seemed to thrive on that attention, more so than someone robbing a little bank in some small obscure town.  So maybe...

[Shutter]

None of the letters were signed by "Dan Cooper", just "DB Cooper" I find it odd he would use a double alias.....

[georger]

6)   Most all believed DB did not survive (even though all following DB made it safely)
7)   No mention of drinks, cigarets, or  four letters to the newspapers and the FBI overlooking the DNA under the stamps and envelope flaps

It was a poor job of trying to get something put together in a hurry.

Bob Sailshaw
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All the jumping skyjackers who followed Cooper survived, but were also captured soon after they jumped. 

The letter's to the press do intrigue me a bit.  I don't believe the Cooper suspect wrote those letters, but...the nature of skyjacking draws a lot of attention and the people who did these skyjackings seemed to thrive on that attention, more so than someone robbing a little bank in some small obscure town.  So maybe...

The visibility and the penalties for the two crimes are substantially different!

Some people 'just must' seek a high visibility profile or try to, for some reason. While others just plod along doing ordinary crime. 
 

[andrade1812]

All the jumping skyjackers who followed Cooper survived, but were also captured soon after they jumped.

Let's be clear, one of the reasons the guys who followed Cooper were easier to capture was because of the information (i.e. the 'bump' indicating when the hijacker actually jumped) gleaned from the Cooper hijacking itself. Since that information was not present for the Cooper hijacking, the conclusion "Cooper would have been captured had he survived based on later hijackings" is a logical fallacy.

Further, McCoy was caught because he talked to others before the hijacking and lived near the jump point. Richard Charles LaPoint was captured because the authorities put a tracking device in his parachute, then followed his snow tracks (again, neither element present in Cooper case). Frederick Hahneman spent a month in Honduras before he gave himself up (nothing applicable to Cooper case). McNally was caught with a fingerprint. Really, on Heady's jump is at all applicable to Coopers, because Heady was actually captured with agents on the ground. But they were only there because they knew where he jumped, because of the Cooper case.

So, a recipe for getting away with the crime would be: don't leave fingerprints (or at least, not already be in the fingerprint system), don't talk, be first so they don't know about the jump, don't have a tracking device in your parachute, don't surrender yourself. We know for sure Cooper was good on three of these points, leaving only fingerprints and talking as the way to catch him. If Cooper was not previously a criminal, and if he was a lone wolf, he is in a very good position to get away with the crime.

Cooper may have died in the jump, but assuming he died because he was never caught is to assume our law enforcement system is 100% effective. And that has never been true.

[georger]

All the jumping skyjackers who followed Cooper survived, but were also captured soon after they jumped.

Let's be clear,

A recipe for getting away with the crime would be: don't leave fingerprints (or at least, not already be in the fingerprint system), don't talk, be first so they don't know about the jump, don't have a tracking device in your parachute, don't surrender yourself. We know for sure Cooper was good on three of these points, leaving only fingerprints and talking as the way to catch him. If Cooper was not previously a criminal, and if he was a lone wolf, he is in a very good position to get away with the crime.

And jump between SEA and PDX along V-23 on a slow day!   

[nmiwrecks]

All the jumping skyjackers who followed Cooper survived, but were also captured soon after they jumped.

 the conclusion "Cooper would have been captured had he survived based on later hijackings" is a logical fallacy.

Cooper may have died in the jump, but assuming he died because he was never caught is to assume our law enforcement system is 100% effective. And that has never been true.

Right back at ya.  To assume Cooper survived because all those who followed survived, is a "logical fallacy" also.  I think we've been down this road before.  Most people's belief that the Cooper suspect died is based on his apparent lack of skydiving experience, weather conditions, improper footwear, ransom money being discovered in a river bank a few miles downstream of where the plane passed over the river, no ransom money being ever being discovered in circulation and no decent suspects fitting the basic description who were alive after 1971 have been produced.

If anybody has any type of proof that the Cooper suspect lived or died, we would love to hear it.  Until then, we will argue the point based on who we personally think Cooper was: a dead bumbling amateur, or a living CIA trained ninja.

[sailshaw]

Shutter    You say:" None of the letters were signed by "Dan Cooper", just "DB Cooper" I find it odd he would use a double alias....."

I say:   The four letters were sent by one person (Galen Cook came to the same conclusion)  and I thought they were from a cook at first but when I saw the salutation on letter #3, "The system that beats the system" I then knew they were most likely from Sheridan Peterson as that was his mantra while living at my home for one month in 1961. He was fixed upon "Beating the System" and mentioned it many times. He would have used DB as Dan was not being used in the newspapers.

Bob Sailshaw

PS The FBI does not act on civilian ideas as they want it to all come from the FBI thinking.
"It was not invented here"

[nmiwrecks]

Shutter    You say:" None of the letters were signed by "Dan Cooper", just "DB Cooper" I find it odd he would use a double alias....."

I say:   The four letters were sent by one person (Galen Cook came to the same conclusion)  and I thought they were from a cook at first but when I saw the salutation on letter #3, "The system that beats the system" I then knew they were most likely from Sheridan Peterson as that was his mantra while living at my home for one month in 1961.

Bob Sailshaw

Is it possible that Peterson sent the letters, but wasn't the skyjacker? 

[georger]

Shutter    You say:" None of the letters were signed by "Dan Cooper", just "DB Cooper" I find it odd he would use a double alias....."

I say:   The four letters were sent by one person (Galen Cook came to the same conclusion)  and I thought they were from a cook at first but when I saw the salutation on letter #3, "The system that beats the system" I then knew they were most likely from Sheridan Peterson as that was his mantra while living at my home for one month in 1961.

Bob Sailshaw

Is it possible that Peterson sent the letters, but wasn't the skyjacker?

It is entirely possible imho. We know Peterson liked to thumb his nose at "the system", whatever that adds up to. The phrase "the system" was common gobblewobble during the 70's - that phrase was as common as dirt in the 1970s! There is nothing unique to Peterson about the use of the phrase "system that beats the system" during that epoch.

Likewise, the letters are no surprise! That was as predictable as lice in Los Angeles!

Did Peterson write the letters? Who knows. It could have been any one of Tens of Millions of possible candidates! Peterson says he was in Nepal at the time.

This is pretty funny - 

It's telling Peterson would turn around and say he was in Nepal when it came to taking ownership!

The system that beats the system?  or the Joker that feeds at the glory hole of DB Cooper ?

Through his machinations he got the FBI to look at him which is more than Weber or Blevins have accomplished!

The whole thing is probably disinformation spawned by some social critic who thought he was special. Cooper strikes me as wanting to remain anonymous! You guys just want those letters to be important. Lacking anything better I guess they are! We could discuss the Tom Kaye Shoebox Pump instead! It has about the same relevance imho.
 

 


       

[Shutter]

Some more wacky fun with the pics.....

[Bruce A. Smith]

Um, Shut, could you tell us more about that tattoo that is being applied in this video? Also, could you show us more of her, um, tattoos....?