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[georger]

Ok, after a lot of research I have figured out what needs to be done to fly a drone commercially. a 333 exemption must be filed and approved by the FAA, no exceptions. this process takes up to 120 for approval/denial. then you must register the drone with a N-number. N467US is currently "Deregestered"

They have a rather lengthy list of guidelines to follow once approved. here are a few guidelines.

1) Stay below 200 feet.
2) Stay 5 nautical miles from airports.
3) Stay in line of sight.


I received a response from one of our largest contractors (Stiles) they are interested, but warned of the FAA regulations. I'm currently working on the exemption.

I can see it now:

The Dronezone Cooper Wars!

[Shutter]

If I ever make it to Washington. you can bet the drone will be with me 

[Shutter]

This is not good.....

[georger]

This is not good.....

Ich dont know what to say - just waiting like everyone else for the next shoe to drop. Meanwhile lots of problems to address in the normal life routine these days. Im basically tied up until about Jul 18th, pending the latest serious glitch in the New Horizons probe software. I cant give you anything new on Cooper, but I can give you this -

Things were looking very promising with several data transmissions on Jul 3rd and the first real surface images of Pluto (and Charon) ever! No orbiting or ground based telescope can begin to compete with what was received - which is the understatement of decades! See attached. A complete orbital loop was recorded for Charon then a gif posted for the public to see, by the New Horisons Team (NASA). Then at about 11:30AM on July 4th transmissions went dead. By about 2:00PM it became clear NH had shut it's primary computer down and was sending a default message advising the primary computer was now in a SAFE mode ... and all science had stopped! NH failed to acknowledge several transmissions sent by NASA!

Meanwhile time is racing away with NH set to conduct the bulk of its science programs and rendezvous with Pluto on July 14th, in a situation where one way communication with NH requires about 4.5 hours. ( 9 hours both ways).

The current hope is NH will be back operating on its primary computer by July 7th, at which time science programs could resume.

We will see what happens...

BTW you will not these photos on the web except in a few places ... so enjoy! These six frames showing the surface of Pluto represent one orbital cycle of Charon.  See: for updates see Google and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

[nmiwrecks]

Things were looking very promising with several data transmissions on Jul 3rd and the first real surface images of Pluto (and Charon) ever! No orbiting or ground based telescope can begin to compete with what was received - which is the understatement of decades! See attached. A complete orbital loop was recorded for Charon then a gif posted for the public to see, by the New Horisons Team (NASA). Then at about 11:30AM on July 4th transmissions went dead. By about 2:00PM it became clear NH had shut it's primary computer down and was sending a default message advising the primary computer was now in a SAFE mode ... and all science had stopped! NH failed to acknowledge several transmissions sent by NASA!

Very cool info, georger.  I hope you guys get that thing up and running and we get more amazing images. 

I am in the same boat, also.  I've been hitting the water hard and have been crazy busy these last couple months, so I've been posting little.  Attached is an image taken a few days ago by friends who stayed with us for 10 days, diving and photographing shipwrecks.  The photographer is Cal Kothrade and the "model" is Steve Wimer, both good friends form Milwaukee.  The shipwreck is the "Westmoreland", which foundered in 1854 and was discovered in 2010.  Enjoy!   

[Bruce A. Smith]

I'm not worried. We're in a lull.  It happens.

Also, I sense that the four-hour History Channel docu will generate a lot of interest, especially in looking at the actions of the FBI, particularly the lost evidence and messy record-keeping. I told the documentarians, LMNO, that I hope they push the Bureau to answer these questions, and also allow Larry Carr to talk freely. I told LMNO that if they didn't, I would write about it, and that dynamic would get entered into the Cooper legacy. I think they understand the importance of their role to dig into the issues more deeply and not skate on the surface of governmental spin.

The Norjak case and what we do here - even if some days we don't do much - is also giving substance to the dynamic that the nature of law enforcement and investigation is changing. LE has to accept that folks like us can and will dig into cases and conduct meaningful investigations. The question is what will LE's response to us be. Larry Carr was a visionary and I'm sure others will follow. Yes, there will be many important issues to resolve, such as how to determine who gets to sit on a Citizen Sleuth committee or who gets to see evidence, but I think over time these bumps in the road will be smoothed.

In fact, I recommended to LMNO that they consider doing an docu on how the Internet is changing the nature of police investigation.

I also encouraged LMNO to look at remote viewing and other revolutionary changes to the forensic sciences. They understand the potentials, and in turn encouraged me to keep writing on the New Physics - The Science of Consciousness. The gal from LMNO that I Skyped with last week said that she thought this was a more interesting topic than DB Cooper!

I, of course, think both are important, and now I see them becoming more intertwined.

[georger]

Things were looking very promising with several data transmissions on Jul 3rd and the first real surface images of Pluto (and Charon) ever! No orbiting or ground based telescope can begin to compete with what was received - which is the understatement of decades! See attached. A complete orbital loop was recorded for Charon then a gif posted for the public to see, by the New Horisons Team (NASA). Then at about 11:30AM on July 4th transmissions went dead. By about 2:00PM it became clear NH had shut it's primary computer down and was sending a default message advising the primary computer was now in a SAFE mode ... and all science had stopped! NH failed to acknowledge several transmissions sent by NASA!

Very cool info, georger.  I hope you guys get that thing up and running and we get more amazing images. 

I am in the same boat, also.  I've been hitting the water hard and have been crazy busy these last couple months, so I've been posting little.  Attached is an image taken a few days ago by friends who stayed with us for 10 days, diving and photographing shipwrecks.  The photographer is Cal Kothrade and the "model" is Steve Wimer, both good friends form Milwaukee.  The shipwreck is the "Westmoreland", which foundered in 1854 and was discovered in 2010.  Enjoy!   

Very nice - will show this to a diver friend of mine ...
 

[georger]

I'm not worried. We're in a lull.  It happens.

Also, I sense that the four-hour History Channel docu will generate a lot of interest, especially in looking at the actions of the FBI, particularly the lost evidence and messy record-keeping. I told the documentarians, LMNO, that I hope they push the Bureau to answer these questions, and also allow Larry Carr to talk freely. I told LMNO that if they didn't, I would write about it, and that dynamic would get entered into the Cooper legacy. I think they understand the importance of their role to dig into the issues more deeply and not skate on the surface of governmental spin.

The Norjak case and what we do here - even if some days we don't do much - is also giving substance to the dynamic that the nature of law enforcement and investigation is changing. LE has to accept that folks like us can and will dig into cases and conduct meaningful investigations. The question is what will LE's response to us be. Larry Carr was a visionary and I'm sure others will follow. Yes, there will be many important issues to resolve, such as how to determine who gets to sit on a Citizen Sleuth committee or who gets to see evidence, but I think over time these bumps in the road will be smoothed.

In fact, I recommended to LMNO that they consider doing an docu on how the Internet is changing the nature of police investigation.

I also encouraged LMNO to look at remote viewing and other revolutionary changes to the forensic sciences. They understand the potentials, and in turn encouraged me to keep writing on the New Physics - The Science of Consciousness. The gal from LMNO that I Skyped with last week said that she thought this was a more interesting topic than DB Cooper!

I, of course, think both are important, and now I see them becoming more intertwined.

Well Jim, I would only point out that if you can "remote view" as you claim, then you don't need access to people's files.

Isn't this only about YOU and nothing else? Aren't you appraisals and claims personal?  Blevins also claimed to speak fore the "American people" ...  while belittling "Wage Earner Sheeple" (the common people)

Seig Heil Jim@!

[Robert99]

I'm not worried. We're in a lull.  It happens.

Also, I sense that the four-hour History Channel docu will generate a lot of interest, especially in looking at the actions of the FBI, particularly the lost evidence and messy record-keeping. I told the documentarians, LMNO, that I hope they push the Bureau to answer these questions, and also allow Larry Carr to talk freely. I told LMNO that if they didn't, I would write about it, and that dynamic would get entered into the Cooper legacy. I think they understand the importance of their role to dig into the issues more deeply and not skate on the surface of governmental spin.

The Norjak case and what we do here - even if some days we don't do much - is also giving substance to the dynamic that the nature of law enforcement and investigation is changing. LE has to accept that folks like us can and will dig into cases and conduct meaningful investigations. The question is what will LE's response to us be. Larry Carr was a visionary and I'm sure others will follow. Yes, there will be many important issues to resolve, such as how to determine who gets to sit on a Citizen Sleuth committee or who gets to see evidence, but I think over time these bumps in the road will be smoothed.

In fact, I recommended to LMNO that they consider doing an docu on how the Internet is changing the nature of police investigation.

I also encouraged LMNO to look at remote viewing and other revolutionary changes to the forensic sciences. They understand the potentials, and in turn encouraged me to keep writing on the New Physics - The Science of Consciousness. The gal from LMNO that I Skyped with last week said that she thought this was a more interesting topic than DB Cooper!

I, of course, think both are important, and now I see them becoming more intertwined.

Bruce, spare us the remote viewing and "revolutionary changes" to the forensic sciences, whatever you mean by that.  Instead, why don't you just start talking to the people on the Mufon Channel about UFO's and the like.  I am sure that you would be welcomed with open arms and find your true home there.  Birds of a feather should flock together as the saying goes.

Hopefully, Shutter will be able to keep this site focused on "facts" (consult your dictionary, if necessary) so that some actual progress can be made in resolving the Cooper matter.  He made a significant step in that direction by keeping some nutcases off this site and is to be congratulated for it.

[georger]

I'm not worried. We're in a lull.  It happens.

Also, I sense that the four-hour History Channel docu will generate a lot of interest, especially in looking at the actions of the FBI, particularly the lost evidence and messy record-keeping. I told the documentarians, LMNO, that I hope they push the Bureau to answer these questions, and also allow Larry Carr to talk freely. I told LMNO that if they didn't, I would write about it, and that dynamic would get entered into the Cooper legacy. I think they understand the importance of their role to dig into the issues more deeply and not skate on the surface of governmental spin.

The Norjak case and what we do here - even if some days we don't do much - is also giving substance to the dynamic that the nature of law enforcement and investigation is changing. LE has to accept that folks like us can and will dig into cases and conduct meaningful investigations. The question is what will LE's response to us be. Larry Carr was a visionary and I'm sure others will follow. Yes, there will be many important issues to resolve, such as how to determine who gets to sit on a Citizen Sleuth committee or who gets to see evidence, but I think over time these bumps in the road will be smoothed.

In fact, I recommended to LMNO that they consider doing an docu on how the Internet is changing the nature of police investigation.

I also encouraged LMNO to look at remote viewing and other revolutionary changes to the forensic sciences. They understand the potentials, and in turn encouraged me to keep writing on the New Physics - The Science of Consciousness. The gal from LMNO that I Skyped with last week said that she thought this was a more interesting topic than DB Cooper!

I, of course, think both are important, and now I see them becoming more intertwined.

Bruce, spare us the remote viewing and "revolutionary changes" to the forensic sciences, whatever you mean by that.  Instead, why don't you just start talking to the people on the Mufon Channel about UFO's and the like.  I am sure that you would be welcomed with open arms and find your true home there.  Birds of a feather should flock together as the saying goes.

Hopefully, Shutter will be able to keep this site focused on "facts" (consult your dictionary, if necessary) so that some actual progress can be made in resolving the Cooper matter.  He made a significant step in that direction by keeping some nutcases off this site and is to be congratulated for it.

+1

[Shutter]

Remote Viewing? see pic below. 

[Bruce A. Smith]

Bruce, spare us the remote viewing and "revolutionary changes" to the forensic sciences, whatever you mean by that. 

What is the source of your discomfort? What is it about remote viewing that makes you uncomfortable and need to be spared? Aren't you curious about the capacities of the limbic system?

As for revolutionary changes, once the practice of remote viewing is consistent and reliable it will truly bring dramatic changes to the forensic sciences, no?

[Robert99]

Bruce, spare us the remote viewing and "revolutionary changes" to the forensic sciences, whatever you mean by that. 

What is the source of your discomfort? What is it about remote viewing that makes you uncomfortable and need to be spared? Aren't you curious about the capacities of the limbic system?

As for revolutionary changes, once the practice of remote viewing is consistent and reliable it will truly bring dramatic changes to the forensic sciences, no?

Bruce, the basic problem is who or what "programs" the limbic system and what its "output" is suppose to be.

Most of the people on this thread have undergone years or decades of training to condition the limbic system to produce "rational" outputs from "rational" inputs to that system as well as to make "associations" and "connections" that produce outputs that may not be apparent from the inputs.

The above is sometimes referred to as "logical thinking".  After undergoing such an intensive "mental conditioning" program, some people, me included, have great difficulty in making sense of anything that does not follow the common rules of logic, such as "illogical thinking", or anything else that does not have a logical basis.

The end result from all of the above is that some people who continue to engage in "illogical thinking", and perhaps have behavior problems based on that thinking, sometimes end up in special institutions where medical personnel actively work to help them retrain their limbic systems to produce "logical thinking" and behavior.  These institutions are sometimes called "nut houses" by the uninformed.

For your last question, could you provide a state-of-the-art update of the subject in the year 3,916 AD?

[georger]

Bruce, spare us the remote viewing and "revolutionary changes" to the forensic sciences, whatever you mean by that. 

What is the source of your discomfort? What is it about remote viewing that makes you uncomfortable and need to be spared? Aren't you curious about the capacities of the limbic system?

As for revolutionary changes, once the practice of remote viewing is consistent and reliable it will truly bring dramatic changes to the forensic sciences, no?

Or, just a classic case of "over reach". Obviously you don't see how it undermines the other work you do, and exposes you to problems. One is never sure where your objective work and your subjective activism merege and feed into each other. The net result is uncertainty in the credibility of your work. Its a virus that infects your whole persona. People like Blevins (who has his own credibility problems and attacks other people's vulnerabilities to bolster his own credibility!) attack it ... because its an obvious vulnerability.

Update on New Horizons:  here's an especially good article tonight. Explains what happened and why... You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login


 

[Bruce A. Smith]

Bruce, spare us the remote viewing and "revolutionary changes" to the forensic sciences, whatever you mean by that. 

What is the source of your discomfort? What is it about remote viewing that makes you uncomfortable and need to be spared? Aren't you curious about the capacities of the limbic system?

As for revolutionary changes, once the practice of remote viewing is consistent and reliable it will truly bring dramatic changes to the forensic sciences, no?

Bruce, the basic problem is who or what "programs" the limbic system and what its "output" is suppose to be.

Most of the people on this thread have undergone years or decades of training to condition the limbic system to produce "rational" outputs from "rational" inputs to that system as well as to make "associations" and "connections" that produce outputs that may not be apparent from the inputs.

The above is sometimes referred to as "logical thinking".  After undergoing such an intensive "mental conditioning" program, some people, me included, have great difficulty in making sense of anything that does not follow the common rules of logic, such as "illogical thinking", or anything else that does not have a logical basis.

The end result from all of the above is that some people who continue to engage in "illogical thinking", and perhaps have behavior problems based on that thinking, sometimes end up in special institutions where medical personnel actively work to help them retrain their limbic systems to produce "logical thinking" and behavior.  These institutions are sometimes called "nut houses" by the uninformed.

For your last question, could you provide a state-of-the-art update of the subject in the year 3,916 AD?

I thought the neurological centers for logical thinking were the cerebrum, frontal lobes and such, whereas the limbic system was the center for intuitive, emotional, and non-associative awareness.

As a result, I say that the most complete forensic approach would be to have synergy between the two systems.

Yes, I know my efforts to explore the unexplored realms causes some people to discount my other, more traditional work, which frustrates me. Hence, my questions as to your discomfort.