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[Shutter]

I just went into my site builder to work on the new site, and found it gone! I'm waiting on a reply from my server. that was a lot of work....


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[nmiwrecks]

I just went into my site builder to work on the new site, and found it gone! I'm waiting on a reply from my server. that was a lot of work....


Update: The problem was on the server's side....all my data is safe 


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Glad it's still there.   There's nothing worse than losing hours and hours of work...

What do you think of adding a "suspects" section?  Each of the dozen or so major suspects would get their own page with standardized information.  These pages would be a good jumping off point for newcomers to the case. 

[Bruce A. Smith]

Sounds good!

[Shutter]

I just went into my site builder to work on the new site, and found it gone! I'm waiting on a reply from my server. that was a lot of work....


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Glad it's still there.   There's nothing worse than losing hours and hours of work...

What do you think of adding a "suspects" section?  Each of the dozen or so major suspects would get their own page with standardized information.  These pages would be a good jumping off point for newcomers to the case.

Ok, I'll add it to the menu.

[nmiwrecks]

I just went into my site builder to work on the new site, and found it gone! I'm waiting on a reply from my server. that was a lot of work....


Update: The problem was on the server's side....all my data is safe 


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Glad it's still there.   There's nothing worse than losing hours and hours of work...

What do you think of adding a "suspects" section?  Each of the dozen or so major suspects would get their own page with standardized information.  These pages would be a good jumping off point for newcomers to the case.

Ok, I'll add it to the menu.

I'll start gathering information and putting something together this coming week.  We can use physical description, height, weight, etc.  Maybe a paragraph on their back story and why they are suspects?  I'll try to do a little Photoshop magic and put a photo or two of the suspects next to the composite sketches.  Anybody else have suggestions on what info to include?  How about a list?

[Bruce A. Smith]

Here are my suggestions:

1. Height
2. Weight
3. Eye Color
4. Hair
5. Build
6. Known parachute expertise
7. Advanced knowledge of 727
8. Criminal background and contacts
9. Involvement in covert activities, either military or criminal
10. Presentation, ie: confession, family suspect, spousal referral, behavioral referral
11. Never seen again/reclusive/missing time in November 1971
12. Missed Thanksgiving Dinner, 1971
13. Known drug and alcohol use?
14. How many marriages/relationships
15. Psychological profile
16. Grudges?

[andrade1812]

Instead of rigid checklists, we should perhaps state why the person is considered a suspect, and what problems exist.

For example:

Sheridan Peterson worked at Boeing (thus explaining Cooper's knowledge of the 727, and the tie particles), jumped out of an airplane wearing a suit, just like Cooper, and he was a man of strong conviction who could easily have been driven to such an act based on those convictions.

However, Peterson has a plausible alibi, his physical description isn't a perfect match, and his DNA does not match any of the samples on the tie.

Simple, easy, clear, and empirical.

[nmiwrecks]

We have at least a dozen suspects.  Should we put them on one webpage in chart form, or give them each a page?  Here's a list of suspects.  Does anybody else need to be added?
Ted Braden
Ken Christiansen
Jack Coffelt
L.D. Cooper
Bobby Dayton
William Gosset
Robert Richard Lepsy
Ted Mayfield 
Richard Floyd McCoy
Sheridan Peterson
Duane Weber
Melvin Wilson

[georger]

We have at least a dozen suspects.  Should we put them on one webpage in chart form, or give them each a page?  Here's a list of suspects.  Does anybody else need to be added?
Ted Braden
Ken Christiansen
Jack Coffelt
L.D. Cooper
Bobby Dayton
William Gosset
Robert Richard Lepsy
Ted Mayfield 
Richard Floyd McCoy
Sheridan Peterson
Duane Weber
Melvin Wilson

Souldnt this be under     Suspects And Confessions ? Oh well ...
 
Your list is probably paltry and meaningless. This is your set of names. The FBI would produce another list of names you have never heard of. Those are the files Geoff Gray and others were never allowed to see! Those files would reflect the direction(s) the actual investigation took, or did not take, and a shortlist of people the FBI considered primary suspects _ whose names are not on your list or even known (to you). You probably missed the few names which have surfaced over the years that are not on your list but who were actually investigated.
   

[andrade1812]

We have at least a dozen suspects.  Should we put them on one webpage in chart form, or give them each a page?  Here's a list of suspects.  Does anybody else need to be added?
Ted Braden
Ken Christiansen
Jack Coffelt
L.D. Cooper
Bobby Dayton
William Gosset
Robert Richard Lepsy
Ted Mayfield 
Richard Floyd McCoy
Sheridan Peterson
Duane Weber
Melvin Wilson

Souldnt this be under     Suspects And Confessions ? Oh well ...
 
Your list is probably paltry and meaningless. This is your set of names. The FBI would produce another list of names you have never heard of. Those are the files Geoff Gray and others were never allowed to see! Those files would reflect the direction(s) the actual investigation took, or did not take, and a shortlist of people the FBI considered primary suspects _ whose names are not on your list or even known (to you). You probably missed the few names which have surfaced over the years that are not on your list but who were actually investigated.
   

I don't necessarily disagree, but the "suspects" page should probably be more than just a plagiarized picture of Ziggy shrugging his shoulders.

[Bruce A. Smith]

I agree with Georger. Any list we develop is probably not a current list of actual suspects being investigated. Rather, it is more of a list of people that we talk about, or have to talk about because someone is shoving their suspect in our face.

But we have to start somewhere.

Perhaps, our "list" will help us form another list, one that lists the skills, attitudes and behaviors of Cooper. Or identifies the conflict of perspectives on who and what DB Cooper demonstrated physically and psychologically!

Further, maybe we need a "Chinese Menu" of This and That. "This" is why Cooper is considered a Whuffo. "That" is why Cooper is considered a master criminal with serious skydiving chops.

And a third list of who believes what.

As for suspects, Don Burnworth adamantly believed he was the only suspect who did jail time due to Norjak. So, we ought to put him on the list, too.

Lastly, Shut, I think you need to get your D-9 out and push all this stuff over to the Suspects page before this becomes the Suspects Vault.

[Shutter]

My understanding of this point is to educate people who might not know some of the known suspects, and again have a place where the info can be accessed, and not run over by future pages on forums such as this one?

[Bruce A. Smith]

Fair enough.

[nmiwrecks]

My understanding of this point is to educate people who might not know some of the known suspects, and again have a place where the info can be accessed, and not run over by future pages on forums such as this one?

I simply wanted to help Shutter out with the new website, which I thought would be a neutral place for people just finding out about the case to come and learn more, so they wouldn't have to peruse this forum and "listen" to the same old douche-bags, who couldn't find their ass with both hands, regurgitate and pontificate the same old minutiae, pretending to be experts in a case they will never be involved in solving.  I thought by posting the list publicly, people could respond and we could improve the list "publicly".  This thread is the place we've been discussing the new website, so that's why I posted information here.

I wanted to help out with some of the writing and content on the new website, because I know how time consuming creating a site can be, and I thought Shutter deserved a hand.  You guys are the most knowledgeable people I know about the case, so I thought your input would be valuable.  I appreciate any feedback that may help us with the goal of making the best website we can.  If you want to cock off and make snide remarks, then please answer a few questions for me.  Like, have you ever solved a major mystery?  Any mystery?  Closed a cold case?  Found a neighborhood pet, etc?  Please tell us about your many accomplishments so we can give you the respect you deserve.

Or, just let me know if you know of any suspects I may have missed, to make Shutter's new website the best it can be.

Thank you

[Shutter]

Thanks Ross, yes, this is a lot of work. any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to help future reference points to be made a little easier to access. I already put a lot of information provided by Georger in the Tina Bar section. some of this stuff is not accessible anywhere, so why not make this the starting point of putting things in order?

If anyone wishes to come aboard I'll be more than happy to give full access with helping in the construction of this site. If someone wishes to just toss in an idea like what has been happening above, then by all means post your comment.

Shutter