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[Kermit]

I'll await to see IF the $150,000 in Documented money is found. If this story is legit, the money should be the
There.

[Shutter]

I'll await to see IF the $150,000 in Documented money is found. If this story is legit, the money should be the
There.

I'm not holding my breath at this point and time....

[Shutter]

This story would imply that 50k is on the island at Vancouver lake...along with the bomb which would of been destroyed by the dredge..

[Kermit]

This story sounds fishy so far. Cooper and his 3 helpers take $50,000 and throw it away to form an alibi ! Wow ! That's a lot of their loot to just throw away when there are perhaps a 4 way split ! And then they bury the rest ? So they did all this for no profit and 46 years have passed ! Show me the Money !

[Robert99]

This story would imply that 50k is on the island at Vancouver lake...along with the bomb which would of been destroyed by the dredge..

Shutter,

I have received and printed out the PDF but won't have a chance to read it completely until late this afternoon PDT.

But if the money went into Vancouver Lake, it would NEVER, REPEAT NEVER, be able to get over to Tina Bar by natural means.  Vancouver Lake empties into the Columbia River by means of Lake River at a point between 15 and 20 miles downstream from Tina Bar.  As I have repeatedly emphasized over the years, NW Lower River Road is built on top of a levee to prevent flow between the Columbia River and Vancouver Lake.

In the late 1970s, the Flushing Channel was constructed to "flush" Vancouver Lake during high water periods.  This channel is a one-way flow from the Columbia River to Vancouver Lake and not vice-versa.

I'll have other comments this evening.

[Shutter]

This story sounds fishy so far. Cooper and his 3 helpers take $50,000 and throw it away to form an alibi ! Wow ! That's a lot of their loot to just throw away when there are perhaps a 4 way split ! And then they bury the rest ? So they did all this for no profit and 46 years have passed ! Show me the Money !

Odds would of been better to just dump the money on the lake...a briefcase is not water tight, so it's a stretch to believe it would float in order to be found, or why not toss the open chute into the water and send someone to find it while fishing?

[Olemisscub]

regarding the finding of new evidence in that area, how much would the St. Helens eruption have on any evidence just laying on the ground. Is stuff deep in the forest from that time period just permanently covered in ash and then grass later grew on top of that? That may be a laughable question, but I have no clue. 

[Robert99]

regarding the finding of new evidence in that area, how much would the St. Helens eruption have on any evidence just laying on the ground. Is stuff deep in the forest from that time period just permanently covered in ash and then grass later grew on top of that? That may be a laughable question, but I have no clue.

The ash from the St. Helens eruption primarily went to the northeast and into the watershed of the Columbia River.  In due time, the ash entered the Columbia River and worked its way downstream.  Some of the ash went thru the power generators at the dams on the Columbia and damaged them, including the generators at Bonneville Dam just east of Portland/Vancouver.  So much ash came downstream that the shipping channel in the Columbia was closed from Portland/Vancouver to the Pacific Ocean for a rather lengthy period of time and required that the channel be dredged.

Reportedly, the ash from St. Helens that fell from the sky in the Portland/Vancouver area was less than an inch in depth.  During the St. Helens eruption, I had relatives living in the Moses Lake area and they told me that there was four inches of ash on their roof.

[Olemisscub]

Reportedly, the ash from St. Helens that fell from the sky in the Portland/Vancouver area was less than an inch in depth.  During the St. Helens eruption, I had relatives living in the Moses Lake area and they told me that there was four inches of ash on their roof.

I see. So not much would have covered anything where we think Coop landed and/or went splat. The thick tree cover would have helped that out as well.

[Bruce A. Smith]

Let Me Get This Straight

I received the email from TJC and the attached document, from which Shutter seems to have printed out the text - thank you Shut! After reading it, I am confused by what Thomas is saying. What I gather is:

1. Tom and his Cold Case Team have received a fantastic story of how DB Cooper escaped from the skyjacking. Their sources are 2nd-hand witnesses, most notably Russ Cooper and his wife, Kristy, who got the story from old-timers in their antique plane flying club.

2. The escape story basically claims that Cooper was signaled to jump from Flight 305 when he saw an accomplice in a Cessna flying circles below him and it had a BIG RED LIGHT flashing on its tail to alert him. Then Coop jumps, walks the 1300 feet to a landing strip, gets in another plane with another accomplice and flies a zig-zaggity path to Scappoose, Oregon, passing over Vancouver Lake along the way where Danny Boy dumps 50 grand and the bomb to fool the FBI into thinking he drowned. At Scappoose, Cooper transfers into another plane with the 2nd accomplice and flies to PDX, where he gets in another plane and flies solo to California. The next day he starts writing his 4 "DB Cooper" letters and sends them to various news outlets and the FBI.

3. No one - not the original witnesses/accomplices, nor Russ and Kristy - are claiming that Bob Rackstraw is Cooper.

4. Cooper/"Rackstraw" had two accomplices and they told four other pilots, who are now the source of this story. One of the accomplices was named "Wally," and is now deceased.

5. Tom says he knows where the money and parachute are buried, but he hasn't dug it up yet. However, he has visited the site and found a parachute strap nearby.

6. Tom says he is waiting for the feds to dig up the money.

Do I have this correct?

[Shutter]

Some of the problems seem to be the take on Vancouver lake. this really wasn't included in the search that I'm aware of, so someone would have to find evidence of the executed plan. we know by watching "In Search Of" witnesses did see a low flying plane, but were they related, or was this Himmel, or someone else looking for Cooper? hard to say.

If the strap belongs to Cooper's chute, the rest of it can't be very far away, or why is it only a small piece visible? the Titanic broke apart and the pieces were close by after falling over 2 miles...

Kermit has a good point of why would they toss so much money and bury the rest? hopefully, we can get some answers soon to confirm or bust the theory....you can't say Tom hasn't put a lot into this, so he has my respect regardless to what happens..

also, interesting that another Cooper was involved.....

[Shutter]

 

I'm still waiting on anything new with the escape from Alcatraz..that story sounded very plausible, but seems to have ran it's course? I think it's been almost two years now & nothing new has been found?

[Shutter]

people come up with the wildest story's...this guy is friends with Paul. the scariest thing is that he a doctor! down here no less. note how he is worried someone is going to hear his BS...

[Shutter]

Having a rotating beacon like this during the 1971 rainstorm escape would have been advantageous. Bureau records state Cooper was believed to have stood on the airliner’s extended stairway for up to five minutes. A circling Cessna with such a light could have been “signaling Cooper when to jump,” theorized the original Portland FBI case investigator, Ralph P. Himmelsbach.

R99, would you agree the blinking light on the tail of a Cessna would be very hard to see from 10k feet above cloud cover?
what was the drift range they calculated for Cooper in miles? how accurate could someone jump and be within 1000 feet of the location picked?

[Shutter]

I believe we now have 4 suspects trying to tie the letters supposedly mailed by Cooper...

Sailshaw believes Petersen sent one or more of the letters..
Galen also believes Gossett is behind the letters..
Paul believes Christiansen is behind the sending of the letters..and is also the Zodiac killer (confirmed by him) must be true   
Tom Colbert also believes Rackstraw is behind the letters..
LD Cooper, don't remember?

Not sure about Duane Weber, I think he probably made the paper, and was the person who designed the stamps that were used, or "the man in the mailbox"