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[Shutter]

Anyone have a good reason why I should renew the domain next month?

[MeyerLouie]

I say hang in there, things will pick up.  Meyer

[andrade1812]

I'd be really sad.

Besides, it's always slow this time of year.

Aren't we all planning a big money experiment this year?

[georger]

I agree with both of the above.

I do understand why some leave after using this site to press their theories - some say are fact. One premise of this forum however is to question everything. People aren't always satisfied with the process or the results.

I think Dave has done a good job in quashing personal problems here. That was one of his goals in establishing this forum, and Dave has taken sharp criticism for it from people elsewhere who have their own forums (with nobody posting on them).

All-in-all I think this is a free flowing open forum where just about anyone has a chance to present whatever he or she wants to present. Thats just my view...   

[Shutter]

I started this forum several years ago. We all know Dropzone was not getting anyone anywhere with certain individuals on that forum. The case couldn't easily be discussed.

We have managed to show people like “Amazon” that we could get along as a team. We have proven this many times over. I'm proud we achieved that, and proud to have everyone who was a part of that on this forum, my hats off to all of you.

I'm an old school type of guy. I don't back down from things, I stand up for what I believe is right. I don't change my mind often when it comes to someone doing something wrong. I hang on to the paddle while they go up shits creek without it. It's not my job to keep throwing the paddle back.

Lately, I have noticed the lack of communication and have been wondering what the cause could be. Are we talked out, have we come to the end? I realize everything has been covered a hundred times over, but hopefully we can overcome the darkness.

The new project will spark some interest, but it will be a very long test. Lots of time between updates. My goal is not to spark discussion as much as it is to help the case. The simulation was the first step in getting resolution. The bills could raise a lot of eye brows once it's complete. Answers is what I seek. We can argue till 2020 about who Cooper was, or we can try and find out what he did, or what happened. Simulation, and recreation are the best tools we have. Not that we don't have some sharp minds on here with theories, but putting things to the test is the way to go in my opinion.

My butt would be up the same creek if I didn't have Meyer Louie stepping up to the plate as the key person in this new project, so my hats off to him as well. No I in team on this forum. It's a group effort. I like people taking on a challenge and getting involved.

Lets see how things play out. I appreciate the kind words...
Shutter

[MeyerLouie]

I started this forum several years ago. We all know Dropzone was not getting anyone anywhere with certain individuals on that forum. The case couldn't easily be discussed.

We have managed to show people like “Amazon” that we could get along as a team. We have proven this many times over. I'm proud we achieved that, and proud to have everyone who was a part of that on this forum, my hats off to all of you.

I'm an old school type of guy. I don't back down from things, I stand up for what I believe is right. I don't change my mind often when it comes to someone doing something wrong. I hang on to the paddle while they go up shits creek without it. It's not my job to keep throwing the paddle back.

Lately, I have noticed the lack of communication and have been wondering what the cause could be. Are we talked out, have we come to the end? I realize everything has been covered a hundred times over, but hopefully we can overcome the darkness.

The new project will spark some interest, but it will be a very long test. Lots of time between updates. My goal is not to spark discussion as much as it is to help the case. The simulation was the first step in getting resolution. The bills could raise a lot of eye brows once it's complete. Answers is what I seek. We can argue till 2020 about who Cooper was, or we can try and find out what he did, or what happened. Simulation, and recreation are the best tools we have. Not that we don't have some sharp minds on here with theories, but putting things to the test is the way to go in my opinion.

My butt would be up the same creek if I didn't have Meyer Louie stepping up to the plate as the key person in this new project, so my hats off to him as well. No I in team on this forum. It's a group effort. I like people taking on a challenge and getting involved.

Lets see how things play out. I appreciate the kind words...
Shutter

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Hey, let's keep the ball rolling.  The interest wanes and flows, but there are some of us who have been interested in the case since day one.  Getting new projects started can help us keep interested and motivated.  New stuff is coming down the pike.  We have the Travel Channel thing coming up soon.  Maybe that will spark new interest in the case.  It's a bit slow right now, but it will pick up.  Other things we might try to get going are doing a more thorough search of R99's dropzone at Tina Bar, really taking a collective close look at Shutter's simulation and try some 'what if' analysis, consult the Fazio's with questions that have come up these past few months and years, and so on..... There's stuff still out there.  Keep the faith.

Meyer

[Shutter]

Has anyone decided whether or not old bills are needed? we need to start moving on this. I have the rubber band test samples ready to go...I have the rubber bands..

bills from 1969 have nearly two decades head start? I have no problem including one?

[MeyerLouie]

Has anyone decided whether or not old bills are needed? we need to start moving on this. I have the rubber band test samples ready to go...I have the rubber ban
bills from 1969 have nearly two decades head start? I have no problem including one?

Let's talk about old vintage bills?  What are the pros and cons here?  How will they help us?  Would like to hear what you have to say.....

Meyer

[Shutter]

Typically, when recreating something you want to be as close as you can be to the real thing, or the actual event. most of the bills are from 1969, so you would think that the bills need to be from that circa. the problem is that almost two decades have past, so the aging has a head start vs a newer bill.

The other question would be how much has the paper changed since 1969, or is it even an issue. using paper that is not the actual paper used for currency surely wouldn't be the answer either.

I think the rational thing to do is just order a couple bills and include them in the experiment and be done with it.

[georger]

Typically, when recreating something you want to be as close as you can be to the real thing, or the actual event. most of the bills are from 1969, so you would think that the bills need to be from that circa. the problem is that almost two decades have past, so the aging has a head start vs a newer bill.

The other question would be how much has the paper changed since 1969, or is it even an issue. using paper that is not the actual paper used for currency surely wouldn't be the answer either.

I think the rational thing to do is just order a couple bills and include them in the experiment and be done with it.

Cant really help - all offices still closed for the Holidays which are now just ending - timing was off - offices will start reopening tomorrow but it will take a week or more for people to catch up with their backlog so they are available again. ... will talk to a paper expert as soon as he is available - no telling when that will be...   

[MeyerLouie]

Typically, when recreating something you want to be as close as you can be to the real thing, or the actual event. most of the bills are from 1969, so you would think that the bills need to be from that circa. the problem is that almost two decades have past, so the aging has a head start vs a newer bill.

The other question would be how much has the paper changed since 1969, or is it even an issue. using paper that is not the actual paper used for currency surely wouldn't be the answer either.

I think the rational thing to do is just order a couple bills and include them in the experiment and be done with it.
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Sounds like a plan.  Let's do it. 
Meyer

[georger]

Oh Brother Dept!

January 1: Adventure Books has decided to do their own 'Tina Bar Money Test' to verify the results obtained by the Citizen Sleuths. We're using regular money and duplicating the burial and water conditions used by the Sleuths. They have been informed on our intentions. Well, some of it will be real money and the remainder 70/30 paper cut and bound to size. We'd use 75/25 as US currency does, but that's tricky to get, and raises embarrassing questions when you order it. The US Secret Service has a problem about it.
(And yes, we understand that another website about 'DB Cooper' is planning the same thing. No problem. More than one test being done will provide more data to compare for everyone.)

[Shutter]

He is just trying to do the samething Tom has been doing since 2009, another controlled test, but none the less he has copied our idea....check back with us Bobby in 2024 

Venom Magnet is old...how about "Night stalker" 

I removed his link....

[georger]

He is just trying to do the samething Tom has been doing since 2009, another controlled test, but none the less he has copied our idea....check back with us Bobby in 2024 

I removed his link....

When do he and Galya ever sleep - they must copy your website 24/7 ! A very devoted FANBOY! 

I look forward to Adventure UFO's of Seattle publishing their analysis done with eyelash tweezers and spoons and a socket wrench. It should be fun. Any news from them on Sasquatch? How many police calls did Blevins make last year looking for Gido? The moron never knew when to quit because he never knew where to start! 
   

[Shutter]

He is just trying to do the samething Tom has been doing since 2009, another controlled test, but none the less he has copied our idea....check back with us Bobby in 2024 

I removed his link....

When do he and Galya ever sleep - they must copy your website 24/7 ! A very devoted FANBOY! 

I look forward to Adventure UFO's of Seattle publishing their analysis done with eyelash tweezers and spoons and a socket wrench. It should be fun. Any news from them on Sasquatch? How many police calls did Blevins make last year looking for Gido? The moron never knew when to quit because he never knew where to start! 
   

I've mentioned that several times on Bruce's site. some of his comments run into the morning hours. he's up all night waiting for his members to email him vs posting