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[georger]

Here we have a article out of Boulder City, NV.

Gregory Hall, a retired FBI special agent and former Army paratrooper recently sent his perspective concerning the qualifications of Cooper to the FBI to review before he brought the information to the public.

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I read that today too. Funny how he never mentions the Ingram money being found. Minor detail.  Also, going back into the woods the day after to retrieve the money after hiding it just hours before? Really?

New approach - no. He needs to read the thread at DZ. Experienced military people at DZ and elsewhere examined Cooper's actions before and could not find any clear-cut proof Cooper was military or implementing a military style plan of diversion and trickery. For one thing the forensic evidence to support this theory is missing -

No 2nd, third, or even fourth sets of oscillations and bump was detected. Just one set around 8:11.

After 8:11-14 the crew was very sensitive to any indication Cooper was still on board but nothing was detected to suggest he was. Thus the radio message: 'I think our ___________ has left us'.

There is the unconfirmed report that the crew actually looked to see if Cooper was still on board, in the 8:14-20 period..

Prior to landing at Reno, it is confirmed that  Scott did go back to look and Cooper was gone.

Sometimes a banana is just a banana and nothing else.   

 

 

 

[Robert99]

Here we have a article out of Boulder City, NV.

Gregory Hall, a retired FBI special agent and former Army paratrooper recently sent his perspective concerning the qualifications of Cooper to the FBI to review before he brought the information to the public.

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From the article, a link to his "Op Plan" blog:  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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I read that today too. Funny how he never mentions the Ingram money being found. Minor detail.  Also, going back into the woods the day after to retrieve the money after hiding it just hours before? Really?

New approach - no. He needs to read the thread at DZ. Experienced military people at DZ and elsewhere examined Cooper's actions before and could not find any clear-cut proof Cooper was military or implementing a military style plan of diversion and trickery. For one thing the forensic evidence to support this theory is missing -

No 2nd, third, or even fourth sets of oscillations and bump was detected. Just one set around 8:11.

After 8:11-14 the crew was very sensitive to any indication Cooper was still on board but nothing was detected to suggest he was. Thus the radio message: 'I think our ___________ has left us'.

There is the unconfirmed report that the crew actually looked to see if Cooper was still on board, in the 8:14-20 period..

Prior to landing at Reno, it is confirmed that  Scott did go back to look and Cooper was gone.

Sometimes a banana is just a banana and nothing else.

Scott's FBI 302 Reno interview form states that Scott and the other cockpit crew members stayed in the cockpit and did not see Cooper.  After landing in Reno, Scott and the three others did exit through the rear stairs.

[georger]

Here we have a article out of Boulder City, NV.

Gregory Hall, a retired FBI special agent and former Army paratrooper recently sent his perspective concerning the qualifications of Cooper to the FBI to review before he brought the information to the public.

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From the article, a link to his "Op Plan" blog:  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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I read that today too. Funny how he never mentions the Ingram money being found. Minor detail.  Also, going back into the woods the day after to retrieve the money after hiding it just hours before? Really?

New approach - no. He needs to read the thread at DZ. Experienced military people at DZ and elsewhere examined Cooper's actions before and could not find any clear-cut proof Cooper was military or implementing a military style plan of diversion and trickery. For one thing the forensic evidence to support this theory is missing -

No 2nd, third, or even fourth sets of oscillations and bump was detected. Just one set around 8:11.

After 8:11-14 the crew was very sensitive to any indication Cooper was still on board but nothing was detected to suggest he was. Thus the radio message: 'I think our ___________ has left us'.

There is the unconfirmed report that the crew actually looked to see if Cooper was still on board, in the 8:14-20 period..

Prior to landing at Reno, it is confirmed that  Scott did go back to look and Cooper was gone.

Sometimes a banana is just a banana and nothing else.

Scott's FBI 302 Reno interview form states that Scott and the other cockpit crew members stayed in the cockpit and did not see Cooper.  After landing in Reno, Scott and the three others did exit through the rear stairs.

I know what it says.

  and if he is gone he isnt there to see - 

[Robert99]

Here we have a article out of Boulder City, NV.

Gregory Hall, a retired FBI special agent and former Army paratrooper recently sent his perspective concerning the qualifications of Cooper to the FBI to review before he brought the information to the public.

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From the article, a link to his "Op Plan" blog:  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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I read that today too. Funny how he never mentions the Ingram money being found. Minor detail.  Also, going back into the woods the day after to retrieve the money after hiding it just hours before? Really?

New approach - no. He needs to read the thread at DZ. Experienced military people at DZ and elsewhere examined Cooper's actions before and could not find any clear-cut proof Cooper was military or implementing a military style plan of diversion and trickery. For one thing the forensic evidence to support this theory is missing -

No 2nd, third, or even fourth sets of oscillations and bump was detected. Just one set around 8:11.

After 8:11-14 the crew was very sensitive to any indication Cooper was still on board but nothing was detected to suggest he was. Thus the radio message: 'I think our ___________ has left us'.

There is the unconfirmed report that the crew actually looked to see if Cooper was still on board, in the 8:14-20 period..

Prior to landing at Reno, it is confirmed that  Scott did go back to look and Cooper was gone.

Sometimes a banana is just a banana and nothing else.

Scott's FBI 302 Reno interview form states that Scott and the other cockpit crew members stayed in the cockpit and did not see Cooper.  After landing in Reno, Scott and the three others did exit through the rear stairs.

I know what it says.

  and if he is gone he isnt there to see - 

Agreed.  But Scott went back AFTER the landing in Reno and not BEFORE.

[Shutter]

It is mentioned in the radio transcripts of Cooper wanting a "knapsack", and the stews mention this in the crew notes....

[georger]

Here we have a article out of Boulder City, NV.

Gregory Hall, a retired FBI special agent and former Army paratrooper recently sent his perspective concerning the qualifications of Cooper to the FBI to review before he brought the information to the public.

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From the article, a link to his "Op Plan" blog:  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

and from that blog:  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I read that today too. Funny how he never mentions the Ingram money being found. Minor detail.  Also, going back into the woods the day after to retrieve the money after hiding it just hours before? Really?

New approach - no. He needs to read the thread at DZ. Experienced military people at DZ and elsewhere examined Cooper's actions before and could not find any clear-cut proof Cooper was military or implementing a military style plan of diversion and trickery. For one thing the forensic evidence to support this theory is missing -

No 2nd, third, or even fourth sets of oscillations and bump was detected. Just one set around 8:11.

After 8:11-14 the crew was very sensitive to any indication Cooper was still on board but nothing was detected to suggest he was. Thus the radio message: 'I think our ___________ has left us'.

There is the unconfirmed report that the crew actually looked to see if Cooper was still on board, in the 8:14-20 period..

Prior to landing at Reno, it is confirmed that  Scott did go back to look and Cooper was gone.

Sometimes a banana is just a banana and nothing else.

Scott's FBI 302 Reno interview form states that Scott and the other cockpit crew members stayed in the cockpit and did not see Cooper.  After landing in Reno, Scott and the three others did exit through the rear stairs.

I know what it says.

  and if he is gone he isnt there to see - 

Agreed.  But Scott went back AFTER the landing in Reno and not BEFORE.

Im not convinced. The documents are all redacted. 8:12-20 is missing. In the HC show Rataczak explains how you would get down on your hands and knees to look through a space that was at the bottom of the cabin door ... to see to the back. How would you know about that unless you had done it? There is also the Anderson interview which everyone discounts. Anderson gives a different version in the 8:12-20 time period.

I think they knew Cooper was gone around 8:12 because all evidence of him being on the plane suddenly ceased to exist around 8:12-15 and they couldnt raise him in the back, and the flight dynamics of the aircraft had changed. Oscillations had stopped ended by the pressure spike. Anderson says they 'discussed it for a time and were undecided' then Rataczak suddenly made a decision and called it in ... and the ATC transcript goes blank (redacted). I think at the very least Rataczak got down on his hands and knees and looked ... or Tina did. Seeing nothing and no response from Cooper I think they cracked the cabin door and looked ... etc etc. And what they are looking for is the bomb.

I dont think we have the complete version of everything they did or did not do -   

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[Shutter]

Interesting video....

[Bruce A. Smith]

This DBC has a tie!

Pix from Sail. T'anx. Ouch, too big. Hmmm.

[Shutter]

UPDATE


The files have been restored, but we lost some of the last posts due to the restore time frame. the good news is that 99.5% returned. it could of been a lot worse....

Agin, sorry for all the trouble it created...

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[sailshaw]

Bruce:   You say   "Pix from Sail. T'anx. Ouch, too big. Hmmm."

I say:    Try this one!

[Shutter]

Everything seems to be working correctly, except the refresh issue that I can't figure out as of yet 

Thank God the server has restore capabilities, or everything would of been GONE. I was finally able to get the restore to work this morning before I headed out into the world. the time of the restore was early afternoon of the 24th, so anything past that time period was lost. even the thread I started explaining the trouble that occurred. I feel a little more secure now knowing the system backs up the entire forum twice a day.

In the future, always keep an eye out for the latest post made. some were emailing me wondering where everything went. I will always make a post about any problems that occur on this forum. I also sent some PM's, but not to everyone. I noticed a lot were already looking at the thread and were already aware...

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Two things were added to the forum before the loss of data happened. one is a "say thanks" thingy you will see in the comment are of each post given you the option to thank that person.

The second mod is a box will appear in the upper right of the forum when you sign in showing you any comments made on any given post you made previously when logging back into the site..

[Parrotheadvol]

Here's a recent story on the "B", in DB.

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[377]

Finding Cooper... one letter at a time. 

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[Shutter]

Here is a video showing the 727 flying on two engines...