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Robert99 · « **Reply #930 on:** March 20, 2016, 01:45:07 AM »

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More Grist for the Mill on Petey:

Taking a closer look at Sheridan, his timelines don't work for me. I brought this up at the DZ some time ago, and Snowmman and my Best Friend Georger tore into it with some justification, but still the inconsistencies linger for me. Here is my current understanding of Petey's whereabouts:

1961- Sail's place, UW, unemployed and broke grad student.
1962 Bubblelator op at the World's Fair
1963-1964 - Kirkland HS, English teacher, writing part time for the Eastside Journal
1965 - Mississippi
1966 Clark AB and teaching school for the USAF
1966?-1969? - Vietnam
1970 - 1972 Nepal, birthing kids, living in the mud hut

Where does Boeing fit in?
Where does his 7 years in Vietnam get squeezed in?

Also, how exactly did Petey, his tie, the metal filings, and November 24, 1971 all happen:

Did he leave Nepal/Vietnam and come to the PNW and re-visit a storage container before the skyjacking, getting all of his old clothes out and wore them to the skyjacking? Or did DB Cooper play dress-up at Value Village on Nov 23rd, etc... and just happened to pick a tie that had been at the Boeing scrap box, once upon a time...

I think we need to dig in to this.

Bruce,

You don't have to dig a hole to the center of the earth to conclude that Peterson, KC, Duane Weber, and probably ever other "Cooper candidate" that has been mentioned here or elsewhere didn't have anything to do with the hijacking. All the claims connecting them are baloney.

So put your shovel away and relax. Feel free to watch the anti-Trump riots here in Arizona today.

+1

According to a fellow that was interviewed on Tucson TV this evening, he had never voted before and was completely apolitical. But Trump inspired him to start exercising his First Amendment rights, so he attended the Trump event today and, while being ejected as a protester, was assaulted by Trump supporters, one of whom was arrested. It seems that Trump inspired him to become anti-Trump.

[The above was corrected to indicate that a Trump supporter, not the anti-Trump protester, was arrested.]

georger · « **Reply #931 on:** March 20, 2016, 02:09:26 AM »

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More Grist for the Mill on Petey:

Taking a closer look at Sheridan, his timelines don't work for me. I brought this up at the DZ some time ago, and Snowmman and my Best Friend Georger tore into it with some justification, but still the inconsistencies linger for me. Here is my current understanding of Petey's whereabouts:

1961- Sail's place, UW, unemployed and broke grad student.
1962 Bubblelator op at the World's Fair
1963-1964 - Kirkland HS, English teacher, writing part time for the Eastside Journal
1965 - Mississippi
1966 Clark AB and teaching school for the USAF
1966?-1969? - Vietnam
1970 - 1972 Nepal, birthing kids, living in the mud hut

Where does Boeing fit in?
Where does his 7 years in Vietnam get squeezed in?

Also, how exactly did Petey, his tie, the metal filings, and November 24, 1971 all happen:

Did he leave Nepal/Vietnam and come to the PNW and re-visit a storage container before the skyjacking, getting all of his old clothes out and wore them to the skyjacking? Or did DB Cooper play dress-up at Value Village on Nov 23rd, etc... and just happened to pick a tie that had been at the Boeing scrap box, once upon a time...

I think we need to dig in to this.

Bruce,

You don't have to dig a hole to the center of the earth to conclude that Peterson, KC, Duane Weber, and probably ever other "Cooper candidate" that has been mentioned here or elsewhere didn't have anything to do with the hijacking. All the claims connecting them are baloney.

So put your shovel away and relax. Feel free to watch the anti-Trump riots here in Arizona today.

+1

According to a fellow that was interviewed on Tucson TV this evening, he had never voted before and was completely apolitical. But Trump inspired him to start exercising his First Amendment rights, so he attended the Trump event today and, while being ejected as a protester, was assaulted by Trump supporters, one of whom was arrested. It seems that Trump inspired him to become anti-Trump.

[The above was corrected to indicate that a Trump supporter, not the anti-Trump protester, was arrested.]

same thing happened countless times in 1930s Germany.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #932 on:** March 20, 2016, 05:39:56 AM »

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More Grist for the Mill on Petey:

Taking a closer look at Sheridan, his timelines don't work for me. I brought this up at the DZ some time ago, and Snowmman and my Best Friend Georger tore into it with some justification, but still the inconsistencies linger for me. Here is my current understanding of Petey's whereabouts:

1961- Sail's place, UW, unemployed and broke grad student.
1962 Bubblelator op at the World's Fair
1963-1964 - Kirkland HS, English teacher, writing part time for the Eastside Journal
1965 - Mississippi
1966 Clark AB and teaching school for the USAF
1966?-1969? - Vietnam
1970 - 1972 Nepal, birthing kids, living in the mud hut

Where does Boeing fit in?
Where does his 7 years in Vietnam get squeezed in?

Also, how exactly did Petey, his tie, the metal filings, and November 24, 1971 all happen:

Did he leave Nepal/Vietnam and come to the PNW and re-visit a storage container before the skyjacking, getting all of his old clothes out and wore them to the skyjacking? Or did DB Cooper play dress-up at Value Village on Nov 23rd, etc... and just happened to pick a tie that had been at the Boeing scrap box, once upon a time...

I think we need to dig in to this.

Bruce,

You don't have to dig a hole to the center of the earth to conclude that Peterson, KC, Duane Weber, and probably ever other "Cooper candidate" that has been mentioned here or elsewhere didn't have anything to do with the hijacking. All the claims connecting them are baloney.

So put your shovel away and relax. Feel free to watch the anti-Trump riots here in Arizona today.

I always keep an eye on Arizona, Robert. Don Burnworth died there, and Robb Heady now lives there. And my NY-Ex has family there. And Cartel Land was a great docu about the activities at the border... and Sheriff Arpaio - gotta keep an eye on Joe. The Trumpsters want him as The Donald's VP.

But three cars blocked the Interstate to Trump's rally (in Joe's hometown) for 3 hours? Whew. In New York, that would never happen - Fuddgetaboutit! Can I get an Amen on that?! You'd have a new, six-lane interstate! Clearly, if The Donald grew up in AZ, he would not be The Donald he is today.

I think I can speak for many-if-not-most New Yorkers and say that we've known for a very long time that The Donald is a Total Bullshit Artist. I have cousin, named Justin, that has always acted like Trump, and as a kid we called him "Prince." When he grew up, even his mother called him The Justin, in homage to DJT. But until recently, we never really knew how good a bullshit artist The Donald really is. World Class, Olympian. Impressive and downright scary.

Shutter · « **Reply #933 on:** March 20, 2016, 07:13:22 AM »

Skip the politics, or go over to the "Totally Off Topic" thread....

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #934 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:29:06 PM »

Will do. Just a momentary digression...

georger · « **Reply #935 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:41:24 PM »

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Skip the politics, or go over to the "Totally Off Topic" thread....

Good (FAST!) call. Shutter for President!

sailshaw · « **Reply #936 on:** March 21, 2016, 10:02:39 AM »

Bruce: You say: "Quote from: Bruce A. Smith on March 19, 2016, 05:09:18 PM

More Grist for the Mill on Petey:

Taking a closer look at Sheridan, his timelines don't work for me. I brought this up at the DZ some time ago, and Snowmman and my Best Friend Georger tore into it with some justification, but still the inconsistencies linger for me. Here is my current understanding of Petey's whereabouts:

1961- Sail's place, UW, unemployed and broke grad student.
1962 Bubblelator op at the World's Fair
1963-1964 - Kirkland HS, English teacher, writing part time for the Eastside Journal
1965 - Mississippi
1966 Clark AB and teaching school for the USAF
1966?-1969? - Vietnam
1970 - 1972 Nepal, birthing kids, living in the mud hut

Where does Boeing fit in?
Where does his 7 years in Vietnam get squeezed in?"

I say: Sheridan was just starting his Bubbleator Job at the Worlds Fair when he stayed at my place for a month in 1961. Also, he was not a grad student but did have an English major degree from Univ. of Mo. And you have it correct that he did not birth any of his two kids in Nepal during 1971 the year of Norjak. That is the FLAW in his perfect alibi and where he lied to the FBI. Would only DB Cooper lie about his whereabouts 1971?
I THINK SO! And he started at Boeing just after leaving my place in 1961 to work in the "Manuals and Handbooks Group.

Bob Sailshaw
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Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #937 on:** March 21, 2016, 10:14:20 PM »

Well, this is where we get into the bottle-neck on Petey's timeline - 1962.

1961- living at Sail's house. But by early 1962 is working at the Seattle World's Fair. At some point he starts working for Boeing, presumably. But is he part-time, seasonal, or full time?

Exactly what is Petey doing during 1962? Is this the only time Petey's tie did the titanium tub dip?

By 1963 he is working as a school teacher, presumably full time. And then he started working for the Eastside Journal, presumably part-time covering high school sports. Was he still at Boeing? How long did he work there? Summers when he wasn't teaching?

Further, how come Petey never talks about working at Boeing? He talks about other defense contractors, but not Big B.

Petey was a high school teacher in Kirkland from 63-65 as I recall. Then he must have gone to Mississippi in '65 when the March to Selma and voter registration stuff was happening. Don't know how long he was in Mississippi, either. Weeks? Months? Summer?

We also don't know exactly when he went to the Philippines and Vietnam, so all that has to be fit into the timeline, too, because by 1970 he is out of Vietnam and his first kid is born in Nepal. Hence, his claim to have 7 years in Vietnam must be bogus.

Also, Sail, my recollection of what you have told me is that you saw Petey at the World's Fair long after he had left your place. Also, it is my understanding that the Seattle World's Fair opened to the public in the spring of 1962. No?

I also thought you had told me that Petey had told you when you two had first met that he was a grad student at the UW, circa 1961. No? Yes, I remember that he had a BA in English and Journalism from the University of Missouri, '51 if I remember correctly.

Bottom Line
Where is the thin black tie impregnated with metal filings during the period of 1962-1971? Nepal? Storage locker in Seattle? Some box at Goodwill? Were titanium filings in Building 9-1011 in 1962? When did work on the SST start at Boeing?

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #938 on:** March 21, 2016, 10:30:32 PM »

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Skip the politics, or go over to the "Totally Off Topic" thread....

Good (FAST!) call. Shutter for President!

Or Vice-Prez. I understand there might be an opening.

MarkBennett · « **Reply #939 on:** March 21, 2016, 11:54:46 PM »

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Please, in the name of decency, before anyone is led to the gallows, study dossier on new person. An opportunity for public viewing approaches, but patience is required.

I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, but I haven't heard anything. Prospector: do you have a new suspect to bring forward?

sailshaw · « **Reply #940 on:** March 22, 2016, 10:40:34 AM »

Bruce: We know what Sheridan was doing in 1962 as he was working as a contract worker at Boeing and published his add for the Boeing Skydiving Club on July 12, 1962. We also know the Official start and stop times for the Worlds Fair was April 21 to Oct. 21 of 1962. I saws him there in his space suit as the elevator operator of the Bubbleator.
The Boeing SST that required so much research using titanium started in the mid 1950's and was cancelled in 1971. The Materials and Processes Lab would have had both types of Titanium in their scrap tub skids during the SST work period. I saw Sheridan at his office on the 2nd floor of the 9-101 bldg where my office was 100 ft to the South of his office.

I might have the date that he stayed at my place off by a year as it fits better into your time plot to have him at my place in the Spring of 1962. When you are 82 years old it takes a time plot to get things straight. I know Sheridan was just starting at the Worlds Fair when at my place and found out from me how to get hired on at Boeing in that same year an did so with the add in the Boeing News on July 12, 1962. Hope this helps with your time line.

Bob Sailshaw
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georger · « **Reply #941 on:** March 24, 2016, 01:17:35 PM »

... still collating and sorting. ...

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #942 on:** March 25, 2016, 09:10:36 PM »

Thanks, Sail, for the clarification of when Petey was at Boeing and in what capacity.

We still have the sticky wicket of a dangling tie in a titanium tub in 1962 still dripping metal filings in 2010, after sitting in a cardboard box for 40 years on 3rd St in Seattle. BTW: does anyone else cringe while watching a cop show on TV and seeing what REAL evidence boxes look like, as opposed to what the Norjak stuff is stored in? Yee-Gawds, as my Aunt Teddy would say, the evidence container looks like something from my grandmother's attic.

andrade1812 · « **Reply #943 on:** March 31, 2016, 03:24:17 AM »

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"1991 saw the publication of D. B. Cooper: The Real McCoy, by FBI agents Bernie Rhodes and Russell P. Calame. Both authors investigated McCoy's skyjacking case, and their book posits that Cooper and McCoy were really the same person. They cited similar methods of hijacking, and a tie and Brigham Young University medallion with McCoy's initials on the back left on the plane by Cooper."

That is from the Wikipedia article on Richard McCoy. I'm curious about the Medallion. I checked the DZ forum and found a post by Sluggo saying the Medallion find has been "thoroughly discredited". Anyone have a source for said discrediting?

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #944 on:** March 31, 2016, 04:06:09 AM »

Not me. In fact, I've only heard about the medallion briefly. Discredited, eh? It's not mentioned in Calame's and Rhodes' book, so the original source must be outside of that book, and only Gawd Knows where on the discrediting.

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