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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #735 on: October 20, 2015, 07:55:00 PM »
377 cruising among the clouds last Saturday.

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See my radio gear packs on my chest and leg? Big enough for 200K in twenties? I am getting good at jumping with asymmetrical loads. Not so hard if you anticipate the correction needed to avoid instability.

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Worked Japan on my DSTAR radio, but it uses internet linked repeaters. Snow and G would say that doesn't count, and they'd be kinda right.

I think about DB Cooper on nearly every jump. Who was he, is he still alive? I could see the Santa Rosa area from 14,500 ft and wondered about Sheridan.

I LOVE skydiving. Hard to find a higher thrill for only $24. Maybe $24 worth of crack would produce a bigger rush but I'm just too chicken.

Marla's LD story has CB walkie talkies involved so of course I like that aspect. I think the CB radios of 1971 could have proved useful in a Cooper ground man rendezvous. There is just no credible evidence to support my Norjack radio fantasy.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #736 on: October 20, 2015, 09:33:02 PM »
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377 cruising among the clouds last Saturday.

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See my radio gear packs on my chest and leg? Big enough for 200K in twenties? I am getting good at jumping with asymmetrical loads. Not so hard if you anticipate the correction needed to avoid instability.

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Worked Japan on my DSTAR radio, but it uses internet linked repeaters. Snow and G would say that doesn't count, and they'd be kinda right.

I think about DB Cooper on nearly every jump. Who was he, is he still alive? I could see the Santa Rosa area from 14,500 ft and wondered about Sheridan.

I LOVE skydiving. Hard to find a higher thrill for only $24. Maybe $24 worth of crack would produce a bigger rush but I'm just too chicken.

Marla's LD story has CB walkie talkies involved so of course I like that aspect. I think the CB radios of 1971 could have proved useful in a Cooper ground man rendezvous. There is just no credible evidence to support my Norjack radio fantasy.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #737 on: October 21, 2015, 09:57:26 AM »
Sutter    Just want to mention that 377 told me that when a parachute is open it provides a protection from the rain like an umbrella. So DB was only exposed to the rain when at his start of his jump and once the chute opened, he was protected. It was about 5 minutes and then he was on the ground or in the trees. Therefore, DB did not suffer from exposure very long even though he was dressed in his suit and raincoat. The freezing to death was part of the Cossey story of why DB did not survive that he told the FBI. Why would he make up such a story? Was it to throw the FBI off and not to look for DB suspects? Well, the FBI were smart enough to check out their suspects in the first year following Norjak and that is when they visited my home and asking about Sheridan Peterson (because of his three years experience as a USFS Smoke Jumper. When they visited my home and asked about Sheridan, it dawned on me all the things he did and we talked about while he lived at my home for a month. I knew then that Sheridan was DB and told the FBI that he was DB and they said "yes he has one of their suspects". How smart the FBI were to be so close to finding DB on the first year following Norjak but they were unable to put 2 and 2 together however they did send two female agents to get DNA samples from Sheridan. I believe DNA will be the solution to solving the crime but thee FBI needs to get going and think outside the box.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #738 on: October 21, 2015, 07:27:16 PM »
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Sutter    Just want to mention that 377 told me that when a parachute is open it provides a protection from the rain like an umbrella. So DB was only exposed to the rain when at his start of his jump and once the chute opened, he was protected. It was about 5 minutes and then he was on the ground or in the trees. Therefore, DB did not suffer from exposure very long even though he was dressed in his suit and raincoat. The freezing to death was part of the Cossey story of why DB did not survive that he told the FBI. Why would he make up such a story? Was it to throw the FBI off and not to look for DB suspects? Well, the FBI were smart enough to check out their suspects in the first year following Norjak and that is when they visited my home and asking about Sheridan Peterson (because of his three years experience as a USFS Smoke Jumper. When they visited my home and asked about Sheridan, it dawned on me all the things he did and we talked about while he lived at my home for a month. I knew then that Sheridan was DB and told the FBI that he was DB and they said "yes he has one of their suspects". How smart the FBI were to be so close to finding DB on the first year following Norjak but they were unable to put 2 and 2 together however they did send two female agents to get DNA samples from Sheridan. I believe DNA will be the solution to solving the crime but thee FBI needs to get going and think outside the box.

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Bob, is it your contention that Cossey was involved in Norjack, or at least knew that it was Peterson that did it?
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #739 on: October 22, 2015, 10:18:04 AM »
Parrotheadvol    Yes because the way he ended our last phone call when I asked at the end of the call if he knew Sharidon. He gasped and sounded like he just swallled a frog when he said no he never heard of him and Sheridan had brought the Boeing Skydiving Club to Issaquah Sky Sports where Cossey worked as a rigger and instructor. They had to know eachother. Cossey then canciled our lunch date and wanted nothing to do with me after that. I know they must have known each other and spent hours together at Issaquah. Cossey would have been a good partner and launderer of the loot at the casinos he frequented. I think Cossey even held the $200K in his investment plan. Could it be that Sharidan visited Cossey when the money ran out and an eyeball to eyeball talk was necessary but the death was accidental and part of a rage at the end?

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #740 on: October 22, 2015, 11:15:12 AM »
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Parrotheadvol    Yes because the way he ended our last phone call when I asked at the end of the call if he knew Sharidon. He gasped and sounded like he just swallled a frog when he said no he never heard of him and Sheridan had brought the Boeing Skydiving Club to Issaquah Sky Sports where Cossey worked as a rigger and instructor. They had to know eachother. Cossey then canciled our lunch date and wanted nothing to do with me after that. I know they must have known each other and spent hours together at Issaquah. Cossey would have been a good partner and launderer of the loot at the casinos he frequented. I think Cossey even held the $200K in his investment plan. Could it be that Sharidan visited Cossey when the money ran out and an eyeball to eyeball talk was necessary but the death was accidental and part of a rage at the end?

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Two questions then:

1. You seem to think that Peterson made it out with the money, so I'm assuming that you think the Tena Bar find was a plant?

2. God forgive me for asking this one, but if Cossey was involved (hypothetically speaking of course), or at least knew who Cooper was, does this bring the Amboy chute back into question?
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #741 on: October 22, 2015, 02:03:01 PM »
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Parrotheadvol    Yes because the way he ended our last phone call when I asked at the end of the call if he knew Sharidon. He gasped and sounded like he just swallled a frog when he said no he never heard of him and Sheridan had brought the Boeing Skydiving Club to Issaquah Sky Sports where Cossey worked as a rigger and instructor. They had to know eachother. Cossey then canciled our lunch date and wanted nothing to do with me after that. I know they must have known each other and spent hours together at Issaquah. Cossey would have been a good partner and launderer of the loot at the casinos he frequented. I think Cossey even held the $200K in his investment plan. Could it be that Sharidan visited Cossey when the money ran out and an eyeball to eyeball talk was necessary but the death was accidental and part of a rage at the end?

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Two questions then:

1. You seem to think that Peterson made it out with the money, so I'm assuming that you think the Tena Bar find was a plant?

2. God forgive me for asking this one, but if Cossey was involved (hypothetically speaking of course), or at least knew who Cooper was, does this bring the Amboy chute back into question?

The Amboy chute is silk. The Cooper chutes were nylon. That fact does not depend exclusively on Cossey. So the Amboy chute has nothing to do with some speculation about Cossey's involvement or noninvolvement ... or the dna of wood ducks and panthers either!
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #742 on: October 22, 2015, 05:09:43 PM »
CRAF: Civil Reserve Air Fleet. Govt paid Pan Am and NWA a subsidy to add reinforced cargo floors to their 747s so that they could be used as wartime freighters.

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Likely a similar program was used to pay Boeing to do the airdop config flight testing on the 727. CIA? DOD? Anyone find any info on what govt agency funded this test program?

I've always assumed Cooper knew about the tests, but might he have learned about them through the program funding source rather than working at Boeing or hearing about the SAT 727 airdrop tests in Thailand?

Just thinking...

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #743 on: October 23, 2015, 10:13:47 AM »
Parrotheadvol:  You say:
1. You seem to think that Peterson made it out with the money, so I'm assuming that you think the Tena Bar find was a plant?

2. God forgive me for asking this one, but if Cossey was involved (hypothetically speaking of course), or at least knew who Cooper was, does this bring the Amboy chute back into question?

I say: "the Tina Bar money was most likely the three packs of $20 offered to the Flight Crew but refused and DB  then stashed the three packs into the paper bag he brought on-board and then DB shoved the bag into his shirt. The bag blew out of DB's shirt and floated down to end up at Tina's Bar."
 
The Amboy chute was made from the wrong material to be the DB chute (note to two photo's) Georger has it correct.

I can not attach my two photo's as they are over 200KB but the DB Chute is rip-stop and the Amboy is not.

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« Reply #744 on: October 23, 2015, 11:45:19 PM »
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Parrotheadvol:  You say:
1. You seem to think that Peterson made it out with the money, so I'm assuming that you think the Tena Bar find was a plant?

2. God forgive me for asking this one, but if Cossey was involved (hypothetically speaking of course), or at least knew who Cooper was, does this bring the Amboy chute back into question?

I say: "the Tina Bar money was most likely the three packs of $20 offered to the Flight Crew but refused and DB  then stashed the three packs into the paper bag he brought on-board and then DB shoved the bag into his shirt. The bag blew out of DB's shirt and floated down to end up at Tina's Bar."
 
The Amboy chute was made from the wrong material to be the DB chute (note to two photo's) Georger has it correct.

I can not attach my two photo's as they are over 200KB but the DB Chute is rip-stop and the Amboy is not.

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Sail you have a basic fact wrong. Cooper DID NOT offer anyone "THREE BUNDOLAS" - or tres mures either.

That myth seems to never die .... in the hands of MOTIVATED SALESMEN. !    :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Read the thread and catch up please. 2016 is coming fast.

I actually took time out of my day to post this! My bill is in the mail!
 
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« Reply #745 on: October 24, 2015, 10:08:58 AM »
Georger:  You say "Read the thread and catch up please. 2016 is coming fast."

I suggest you reread the thread as that is where I read about the three bundles being offered and refused and quit being so negative and refresh your memory. Maybe Bruce or Mark can verify where the three bundle story came from?

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« Reply #746 on: October 24, 2015, 01:09:49 PM »
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Georger:  You say "Read the thread and catch up please. 2016 is coming fast."

I suggest you reread the thread as that is where I read about the three bundles being offered and refused and quit being so negative and refresh your memory. Maybe Bruce or Mark can verify where the three bundle story came from?

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Funny. Well... one place the "story/myth" is coming from .... is you!

Care to present your sources?   ::)  I mean why ask 377 or Bruce or Blevins or Gray Mushroom to 'verify' a claim "you" are making-using? Since you claim it is "common knowledge and true" just direct us over to where the claim is made and documented. That should be easy? And while we are at it: how many fingers & toes did DB Cooper have? God only knows what facts of Life are lurking there I missed also?  (Cooper had three tongues?) ???   

La tres bundolas, la tres bundolas
Ya no puede caminar.
Porque no tiene, porque le falta,
Dinero para gastar.
Una cucaracha pinta,
Le dijo a una colorada,
"Vamonos para mi tierra,
A pasar la temporada"

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #747 on: October 24, 2015, 03:01:10 PM »
Quote
in an attempt at being humorous, stated to the hijacker while the passengers where unloading that there was obviously a lot of money in the bag and she wondered if she could have some. the hijacker immediately agreed with her suggestion and took ONE PACKAGE of the money and handed it to her

I believe since 3 bundles are widely noted that were found on Tina bar, and 3 stews on the plane the myth was born from these events...

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« Reply #748 on: October 25, 2015, 02:37:43 PM »
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in an attempt at being humorous, stated to the hijacker while the passengers where unloading that there was obviously a lot of money in the bag and she wondered if she could have some. the hijacker immediately agreed with her suggestion and took ONE PACKAGE of the money and handed it to her

I believe since 3 bundles are widely noted that were found on Tina bar, and 3 stews on the plane the myth was born from these events...

None of the stews testified Cooper tried to give them 3 bundolas. I will go back and look. I could be wrong but one of the stews "may have" (stress MAY HAVE!!!!!) said Cooper pulled out 'one package' of money and offered bills from it ... to the stews. Again, this is such OLD NEWS ... but the files needed to answer the question are right here in Shutter's Vault, I think.

An approximate figure of $5800 was attached by some news person/FBI spokesperson to the Ingram find. That is an APPROXIMATE figure, not an actual count because given the condx of the bills no actual count of individual bills ie. serial numbers was possible.

Until Bobby Blevins bulldozed his way into Cooperland NOBODY used "3 bundolas" as a literal fact. That was Blevins' invention/contribution into the social media. I told Blevins very early when he appeared that he lacked basic math skills - in counting - ! 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #749 on: October 31, 2015, 02:34:25 AM »
I just re-watched "The Hijacker that Got Away", and it mentions Carr found profiles of Raleigh Cigarette smokers and Bourbon/7 Up drinkers. Were these ever released or did anyone publish them anywhere?