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Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #495 on:** June 08, 2015, 05:11:52 PM »

Grumps, you're a hard man to keep happy.

True, you make clear all the aspects of investigation that I, or others, have yet to grapple with fully. But what do you think of my book? Your contributions to the understanding of the money find makes that section of DB Cooper and the FBI singular in the Cooper firmament, wouldn't you agree?

Along those lines, who else writing about Norjak has interviewed as many principles in the case as I have?

Further, who else has teased apart the parachute kerfluffle to give us some clarity about Cossey, Hayden and Ckret's pronouncements? It took me a damn month to write that chapter!

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #496 on:** June 22, 2015, 03:35:56 AM »

Greetings Everyone -

I've done some remote viewing on the death of Earl Cossey. The information that came forward suggests that his murder was not connected to the DB Cooper case.

I have emailed some researchers with the details of what I viewed, and if you didn't receive the email and would like to know more please get in touch with me via usual means. It's of a personal nature and not appropriate for an Internet site such as this forum.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #497 on:** June 27, 2015, 10:07:56 PM »

Crazy Central

In case anyone is missing the zaniness of Jo Weber, Galen has encountered a lassie that has Jo beat, hands down. Nanette Barto is a handwriting analyst in LA and has linked DB Cooper with the Zodiac Killer, the Jon Benet Ramsey murder, JFK's assassination and the Black Dahlia murder.

Take that, Duane, no "Y," no "w."

Robert99 · « **Reply #498 on:** June 28, 2015, 01:16:15 AM »

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Crazy Central

In case anyone is missing the zaniness of Jo Weber, Galen has encountered a lassie that has Jo beat, hands down. Nanette Barto is a handwriting analyst in LA and has linked DB Cooper with the Zodiac Killer, the Jon Benet Ramsey murder, JFK's assassination and the Black Dahlia murder.

Take that, Duane, no "Y," no "w."

Bruce,

Just think happy thoughts and get a good nights sleep. The world will look better tomorrow.

You must be the only one on Shutter's site who misses the last few years of the DZ thread. And for God's sake, please DO NOT give any links to wherever it is that Cook finds such people.

georger · « **Reply #499 on:** June 28, 2015, 02:43:33 AM »

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Crazy Central

In case anyone is missing the zaniness of Jo Weber, Galen has encountered a lassie that has Jo beat, hands down. Nanette Barto is a handwriting analyst in LA and has linked DB Cooper with the Zodiac Killer, the Jon Benet Ramsey murder, JFK's assassination and the Black Dahlia murder.

Take that, Duane, no "Y," no "w."

Bruce,

Just think happy thoughts and get a good nights sleep. The world will look better tomorrow.

You must be the only one on Shutter's site who misses the last few years of the DZ thread. And for God's sake, please DO NOT give any links to wherever it is that Cook finds such people.

+1

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #500 on:** June 28, 2015, 03:46:46 AM »

Notice:

I did not post any links. I ain't that crazy.

nmiwrecks · « **Reply #501 on:** July 08, 2015, 11:53:47 AM »

Does anybody have contact information for "Sluggo"? WW is proving to be as elusive as another fellow we are looking for.

Thanks.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #502 on:** July 08, 2015, 04:16:23 PM »

Sluggo has responded to my 2-3 emails over the past few years, but it takes a while. I'll email you what I have.

K_3456 · « **Reply #503 on:** August 01, 2015, 07:39:42 PM »

Hi. I'm new here. Just learning the basics here from you guys who are evidently far along in your research. My first interest in the subject stems from unsolved mysteries, watched as a kid. Googling around, not too many sites come up with basic objective information/overview.

Anyway, looking at the dbcooperletters.com site - are the letters considered to be legitimate/authentic?
Still combing through the forum, so, sorry if this has been discussed.

Shutter · « **Reply #504 on:** August 01, 2015, 07:43:27 PM »

Hello, and welcome to the forum. I'm trying to keep the topics to a minimum. it looks like it will work here..

Nobody has proven the letters to be from the hijacker, it's hard to say if they came from him. I always thought he would sign them Dan Cooper vs DB Cooper...

georger · « **Reply #505 on:** August 02, 2015, 12:18:55 AM »

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Hi. I'm new here. Just learning the basics here from you guys who are evidently far along in your research. My first interest in the subject stems from unsolved mysteries, watched as a kid. Googling around, not too many sites come up with basic objective information/overview.

Anyway, looking at the dbcooperletters.com site - are the letters considered to be legitimate/authentic?
Still combing through the forum, so, sorry if this has been discussed.

Hi & welcome. My view is about the same as Shutters. Others (like Cook for example) seem to be convinced the Letters are real. The Seattle Office of the FBI has to my knowledge never released any public statement concerning the letters. Whether the letters are real or not has it lead to any concrete suspects the FBI looked into, or a new lead of any kind?

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #506 on:** August 02, 2015, 02:54:07 AM »

Greetings Newbie!

Welcome. Here are some tips on the letters. I have written extensively on them, and have a full chapter on them in my book at Amazon - ten bucks: DB Cooper and the FBI - A Case Study of America's Only Unsolved Skyjacking.

You can also go to the Mountain News. I have about 60 pieces on DB C posted there. Google Mountain News and DB Cooper.

I don't think the letters are from the skyjacker, but others think so, including the enigmatic "Al DI." Who his guy is a mystery, and could be an FBI agent playing games or trying to ferret information out of his agency.

The letters certainly reveal other kinds of mysteries that tell us about the nature and scope of the investigation. The letters are generally lumped into two categories. One are the pithy, haiku-like letters, and these are the ones that attract the most attention. They are the most enticing and sublime. All the other letters are from folks who are easy to dismiss. They are egotistical and poorly written.

The last of the Core Four was sent to the Oregonian in the week after the skyjacking. It was a paste-up job using letters from the June and July 1970 Playboy. Al Di has "decoded" them. Interesting analysis. This fourth letter was not published by the Oregonian, but was sent to them, who forwarded it to the FBI in Seattle. Astonishingly, the letter was posted the next day in the Billings Gazette, in Montana, presumably to smoke out any accomplices Paul Cini might have had in the area, as Cini's skyjacking touched down in Great Falls on November 11, 1971.

This was before fax machines and the such, so the FBI had to photograph the letter and then courier it by plane down to Billings. All in less than 24-hours, too, so the FBI clearly took this letter seriously, at least as a ruse for any Cini compatriots.

Many in the FBI consider Paul Cini as the first skyjacker (two weeks before Cooper's) who was ready to parachute away, but I consider Dan Cooper to be the originator of the classic 727 getaway, as Cini was using a DC-8 and it only had a side hatch, not an aft stairway.

I have also written extensively on these "copy cats," and discuss if there might have been a link between them.

K_3456 · « **Reply #507 on:** August 03, 2015, 10:08:33 AM »

Thanks, guys. That's about what I thought. The "core four" letters seem different in attitude from db's attitude on the plane, somehow. I will download your book, Bruce.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #508 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:21:41 PM »

Thanks, K.

377 · « **Reply #509 on:** August 03, 2015, 04:49:34 PM »

Bruce wrote" This was before fax machines and the such, so the FBI had to photograph the letter and then courier it by plane down to Billings. All in less than 24-hours, too, so the FBI clearly took this letter seriously, at least as a ruse for any Cini compatriots."

Not so Bruce. Fax machines have been around a LONG time. From Wikipedia "Scottish inventor Alexander Bain worked on chemical mechanical fax type devices and in 1846 was able to reproduce graphic signs in laboratory experiments. He received the first fax patent in 1843. Frederick Bakewell made several improvements on Bain's design and demonstrated a telefax machine."

Law enforcement agencies used vacuum tube fax machines to send images over phone lines routinely in the 1950s and early 60s.

From
comp.dcom.telecom:

"Western Union public fax services,Western Union ran several advertisments in the New York Times for its
public "wirefax"/"telefax" service. I found ads for 1959-1962.

The maximum size of a document was 8.5" x 11", and the transmitted
portion was roughly 1" shorter on all sides (7.5" x 10").
Transmission took five minutes.

The service was offered in New York City, Washington DC, Chicago, Los
Angeles, and San Francisco. In the time span I checked no additional
cities were added.

The material had to be taken to a Western Union office. WU would pick
it up at an additional charge for their messenger. It would be
delivered by Western Union messenger without charge to any place
within the city limits of the destination city.

The first 4" vertically between NYC and Chicago cost $2.40 and 40
cents for each additional inch. plus Federal tax. The first 4"
between NYC and San Francisco cost $4.00 and 65 cents for each
additional inch plus Federal Tax.

So, a full page letter (with margins) to Chicago would cost about
$3.60 per page, to San Francisco would cost about $5.95 per page, both
plus Federal Tax (10%?), in 1960 dollars, plus the expense of delivery
to the central WU office. By today's dollars that seems quite
pricey."

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