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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #390 on: May 15, 2015, 12:14:35 AM »
Carson, WA Re-Cap

In 1971, a 17-year-old girl talked with a large man wearing torn, dirty clothes leaning up against the rear wall of a small-town grocery store. This woman is now 60-years old, and NJ-71 believes she may have talked with DB Cooper.

In addition, Shut has heard a nearly identical story from a second source

Do I have the story correct, so far?
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« Reply #391 on: May 15, 2015, 03:55:34 AM »
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Carson, WA Re-Cap

In 1971, a 17-year-old girl talked with a large man wearing torn, dirty clothes leaning up against the rear wall of a small-town grocery store. This woman is now 60-years old, and NJ-71 believes she may have talked with DB Cooper.

In addition, Shut has heard a nearly identical story from a second source

Do I have the story correct, so far?

The words muddy, suit, mid forties, barefoot, and 'called the State Patrol'  .... figure in this story somewhere, so far.

Calling all cars: ask Himmelsbach.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #392 on: May 15, 2015, 06:18:53 AM »
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It is obvious someone else on this forum has spoken with this lady in Carson, so this goes to prove i am not falsifying my statements. Rather strange though ?


Nobody from this forum has made any contact with this woman.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #393 on: May 15, 2015, 06:28:00 AM »
Gentleman, all this double talk has me very confused. I never mentioned "A man in his 40s" or where on the outside of the store he was positioned? And to the person that emailed me, No i do not know who the woman you are speaking of ? >:(
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #394 on: May 15, 2015, 12:18:02 PM »
next general noob question:
how significant is it that (other than the Tina bar find) none of the money has ever turned up?

if cooper had survived and spent the money, would we expect some bank somewhere to have found one of the bills?  I know the serial numbers were made public, and banks were told to look out for them.  but, while I don't know exactly how this worked, I can't imagine it was that complete of a dragnet.  i certainly doubt every teller in the country was checking every bill they handled.  and even if they were in '71 and '72, there's no way they're still doing it (though, post 1995 or so, it becomes easier to imagine this being done electronically....?)

on the other hand, it was a large sum of money.  so if cooper spent it, and then it got spent by others, and then spent by still others, you'd expect it disperse over time, for more people to handle the cooper money, and for the odds of someone catching a bill to go up.

so, again, what's the executive summary on arguments about this?  I'll take a link to one if it already exists.  though I'll also accept another one of George's good posts, if he doesn't mind doing the work!
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #395 on: May 15, 2015, 12:35:09 PM »
I'm sure my comment will spark some great feedback, but the money was kept "On Ice" until late 1973. And your absolutely correct about not everyone checking for the bills. Frankly no one really cared except the FBI and their hopes faded shortly thereafter too. Ok Gentlemen, let's hear it!
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #396 on: May 15, 2015, 02:27:47 PM »
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I'm sure my comment will spark some great feedback, but the money was kept "On Ice" until late 1973. And your absolutely correct about not everyone checking for the bills. Frankly no one really cared except the FBI and their hopes faded shortly thereafter too. Ok Gentlemen, let's hear it!

Hi Nightjumper71...

Just put it out there. What do you want to convey to us. Tell us what you know.

I am not into drama and the building up of suspense. I am sure others here do not want to play that game also. Like you, I work during the day.  I also have an extensive social life.  ;D

So....I will check in later to read all about your conclusions to what happened Thanksgiving weekend 1971 and beyond.....

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #397 on: May 15, 2015, 03:52:58 PM »
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I'm sure my comment will spark some great feedback, but the money was kept "On Ice" until late 1973. And your absolutely correct about not everyone checking for the bills. Frankly no one really cared except the FBI and their hopes faded shortly thereafter too. Ok Gentlemen, let's hear it!

Oh, goodie! Cold cash really tickles me. Please more teases!!!

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #398 on: May 15, 2015, 04:37:01 PM »
Alright Gentlemen, the facts and you can take them and twist them until it to is "just another story".
Facts:
Touched down Merwin Dam
Picked up in Yale
Dropped off in Washougal
Train to just south of Stevenso, stayed 1 day.
Walked to Carson, stayed a day and a half.
Picked up, crossed into Oregon via route 35.
Destination Eugene Oregon.
Returned to Washougal in August 1973 to retrieve cash.
Returned to Eugene and never left.

There is what happened, now screw it up royal boys!
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #399 on: May 15, 2015, 04:44:56 PM »
My assessment of Mr.Smith and never meeting him...Over weight pin head in his 50s? Has extreme tiny guy syndrome. Probably lives in mommy's basement or old mobile home. Probably never made over 40k a year and girl's think he smells like hog dung. Bet im damn close !
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #400 on: May 15, 2015, 04:55:51 PM »
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Alright Gentlemen, the facts and you can take them and twist them until it to is "just another story".
Facts:
Touched down Merwin Dam
Picked up in Yale
Dropped off in Washougal
Train to just south of Stevenso, stayed 1 day.
Walked to Carson, stayed a day and a half.
Picked up, crossed into Oregon via route 35.
Destination Eugene Oregon.
Returned to Washougal in August 1973 to retrieve cash.
Returned to Eugene and never left.

There is what happened, now screw it up royal boys!

No reason for the "gentlemen" to screw up anything. Tell us how you came to these conclusions.
Again...your post is riddled with drama and teases.
I do have a few questions.
How do you know that this is how it went down?
Have you contacted the FBI? If so, what was their reply?
Do you have any proof of your allegations?

Thank you,
From one of the "ladies" of the group.


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« Reply #401 on: May 15, 2015, 05:36:28 PM »
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Alright Gentlemen, the facts and you can take them and twist them until it to is "just another story".
Facts:
Touched down Merwin Dam
Picked up in Yale
Dropped off in Washougal
Train to just south of Stevenso, stayed 1 day.
Walked to Carson, stayed a day and a half.
Picked up, crossed into Oregon via route 35.
Destination Eugene Oregon.
Returned to Washougal in August 1973 to retrieve cash.
Returned to Eugene and never left.

There is what happened, now screw it up royal boys!

No reason for the "gentlemen" to screw up anything. Tell us how you came to these conclusions.
Again...your post is riddled with drama and teases.
I do have a few questions.
How do you know that this is how it went down?
Have you contacted the FBI? If so, what was their reply?
Do you have any proof of your allegations?

Thank you,
From one of the "ladies" of the group.

Well ... it strikes me as somebody weaving a bunch of loose threads & anecdotes together to make a tapestry. Is it real? Probably not. For one thing this is another 'Eugene theory'. That much is clear. Validation for a possible connection to Eugene goes way back (over at DZ). Obviously the poster was lurking or posting at DZ. The elements of his story reprise previous claims or speculations dropped by various people over the years. What is new is someone suggesting a connection between these extraneous 'factoids'. Very likely the next claim will be a money plant in 1980 at Tina bar .... by the guy living at Eugene with drug connections to Portland.

Then a book or a tv show!  8) ;D ;D ;D ;D

What goes around comes around.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #402 on: May 15, 2015, 05:45:41 PM »
I really do not understand why you Gentleman are being so sarcastic to me? Did your Uncle/Daddy ruin your life with those late night visits? Come on, grow up, present yourselves as men !
Now, i did not need to come to any conclusions, i know the facts. No, why would i call the FBI? Lot's of factors that no one needs to know. He was not a violent man. He lived in peace and never bothered anyone ever again. I told you I would the the truth and thats what I did now your not willing to accept that.Ask a civilized question and i will gladly answer you.
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« Reply #403 on: May 15, 2015, 05:50:31 PM »
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I really do not understand why you Gentleman are being so sarcastic to me? Did your Uncle/Daddy ruin your life with those late night visits? Come on, grow up, present yourselves as men !
Now, i did not need to come to any conclusions, i know the facts. No, why would i call the FBI? Lot's of factors that no one needs to know. He was not a violent man. He lived in peace and never bothered anyone ever again. I told you I would the the truth and thats what I did now your not willing to accept that.Ask a civilized question and i will gladly answer you.

Well that was quick - instantaneous! Have you been sitting here all day waiting for something to reply to?

Instead why dont you wind out your theory as Vicki suggests ... and spare us your longwinded morality tale!


 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #404 on: May 15, 2015, 05:59:42 PM »
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I really do not understand why you Gentleman are being so sarcastic to me? Did your Uncle/Daddy ruin your life with those late night visits? Come on, grow up, present yourselves as men !
Now, i did not need to come to any conclusions, i know the facts. No, why would i call the FBI? Lot's of factors that no one needs to know. He was not a violent man. He lived in peace and never bothered anyone ever again. I told you I would the the truth and thats what I did now your not willing to accept that.Ask a civilized question and i will gladly answer you.


I do not appreciate your attitude in this forum...Put up..or shut the _____ up.

I also do not appreciate your candor.  When it comes to my "father", he has been missing since September 1971. Are you referring to pedophilia or incest? Do you think that is a joke?





So if you are here to tease and speculate, I personally am not interested. If you have concrete solid information and you are not to afraid to tell, then I would be interested. You see I am here speculating that Cooper could be my father. I you have a suspect and it can be proven, then my family will put this theory to rest.

So..the challenge is in your court.  Are you going to act like a "man"?

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.