So far as I know, no exact time has ever been assigned to the Janet sighting?  What was the exact time Janet and her husband backed out of their drive and had their sighting ?

Galen has indicated to me Janet saw the flares around the 8:15pm time period.

Not to make the Janet thingie more complicated, but it reminds me of the report of flares being dropped in the Eugene area days prior to skyjacking that were reported to Cliff Ammerman and the Seattle Center ATC. Cliff told me that Eugene people called him asking for assistance, and he said that he had none to offer.

One mysterious flare drop is a mystery. Two flare drops within a few days is something else. Exactly what that might be escapes me.

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There is concrete evidence a small circle of people became of aware of Janet and her husbands claims, shortly after 11/24/71, and passed the story on to others even beyond the State of Washington....
 

That is my understanding as well. That said, I have not spoken to anyone who was in that "small circle" or knew of it. Nevertheless, there are currently three threads of this story. The Big Question is: are three different groups of people telling Janet's story, or did three different people see flares from different spots simultaneously. My understanding from Galen is that he has found multiple groups telling their own independent sighting story, and taken together the triangulation puts the plane/305 west of the I-5 bridge in Vancouver.

The flares and small airplanes flying about the hinterlands of Cooper Country on the night of are their own small sub-genres of Norjak investigation. But it's all rather nebulous to me and hard to sort out.

However, Janet's story has the most substance. Further, her report of the "FBI" agents coming to her door and intimidating her is important, in my view. How to investigate that happening is tough, though, but it reminds me of Dick Lepsey's daughter receiving a similar visit years after her father's disappearance. What does it all mean? ...Sigh....

Well, if Galen has quote: "found multiple groups telling their own independent sighting story, and taken together the triangulation puts the plane/305 west of the I-5 bridge in Vancouver", that is news. Is it factually true? Who are these people and why hasn't this been published before? What time frame?

What does "multiple groups" mean?

Why hasn't Galen gone public with this? I am sure the media at the highest levels would jump on this and love to document this important claim and publish it!

Mr. Smith you are reporting tonight at this late hour that Galen Cook has ground breaking NEWS in the DB Cooper case!

Did Galen share his ground breaking discovery with the FBI?  Galen never fails to find groundbreaking NEWS in the DB Cooper case. It's too bad some who actually lived through the hijacking aren't alive to see it and share in it! Or am I missing something ?

Dont be surprised if news outlets all over the world will be reporting this tomorrow !   Maybe you and Galen should publish an announcement fast, and set the stage for this so as to prepare everyone for your announcement.

wow.

 

305 was never west of the I-5 bridge, and at 8:15 the plane was in the vicinity of Orchards. If Cooper was west of the I-5 bridge at 8:15, throwing lit flares out of the plane before jumping, then where is the drop zone? Tigard?

Yeah, I got my salt shaker ready...

Dona from the Ariel store believes she heard 305 fly over her house in Amboy. she thinks the plane was at around 3-4,000 feet. what's interesting is she said it was raining so hard she couldn't hear anything. how did she hear 305 then? I have all the respect in the world for her but it sounds like a story to keep the interest in that area alive. a publicity stunt of sort..

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Dona from the Ariel store believes she heard 305 fly over her house in Amboy. she thinks the plane was at around 3-4,000 feet. what's interesting is she said it was raining so hard she couldn't hear anything. how did she hear 305 then? I have all the respect in the world for her but it sounds like a story to keep the interest in that area alive. a publicity stunt of sort..

If Dona is credible here this could be used as further evidence of the Western Flight Path.

How?

The F-106's are exceptionally loud, plus there were two of them. It seems likely that she heard them and not 305.

Now, put 305 several miles west of the F-106's--which was verified by Ammerman--and you have 305 near St. Helens/Woodland. Interestingly, this is the precise area Capt. Scott stated 305 flew according to the report from Himmelsbach's retirement party.

Except there is no indication that she is credible, and there isn't any previous evidence of a WFP. It's pure conjecture.

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Dona from the Ariel store believes she heard 305 fly over her house in Amboy. she thinks the plane was at around 3-4,000 feet. what's interesting is she said it was raining so hard she couldn't hear anything. how did she hear 305 then? I have all the respect in the world for her but it sounds like a story to keep the interest in that area alive. a publicity stunt of sort..

If Dona is credible here this could be used as further evidence of the Western Flight Path.

How?

The F-106's are exceptionally loud, plus there were two of them. It seems likely that she heard them and not 305.

Now, put 305 several miles west of the F-106's--which was verified by Ammerman--and you have 305 near St. Helens/Woodland. Interestingly, this is the precise area Capt. Scott stated 305 flew according to the report from Himmelsbach's retirement party.

Except there is no indication that she is credible, and there isn't any previous evidence of a WFP. It's pure conjecture.

More nonsense from Chaucer.

You need to check into where Himmelsbach's helicopter flight took him on the evening of the hijacking, where the chase aircraft were vectored to intercept the airliner, why Captain Scott said the published flight paths for the airliner were all wrong.

Doing a bit of research before running your mouth would be a good idea also.

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Dona from the Ariel store believes she heard 305 fly over her house in Amboy. she thinks the plane was at around 3-4,000 feet. what's interesting is she said it was raining so hard she couldn't hear anything. how did she hear 305 then? I have all the respect in the world for her but it sounds like a story to keep the interest in that area alive. a publicity stunt of sort..

If Dona is credible here this could be used as further evidence of the Western Flight Path.

How?

The F-106's are exceptionally loud, plus there were two of them. It seems likely that she heard them and not 305.

Now, put 305 several miles west of the F-106's--which was verified by Ammerman--and you have 305 near St. Helens/Woodland. Interestingly, this is the precise area Capt. Scott stated 305 flew according to the report from Himmelsbach's retirement party.

Except there is no indication that she is credible, and there isn't any previous evidence of a WFP. It's pure conjecture.

For a guy who isn't going to debate the flight path anymore, you sure seem to debate the flight path a lot.

First of all, there is also no indication that Dona is not credible. She has testified she heard a very loud jet that night. It is what it is.

Second, just because you make pronouncements about no evidence supporting a Western Flight Path doesn't make your pronouncements true.

Third, why do you feel the need to be a dick? I offered up a post. That's it. Now if you want to debate the merits of the post based upon fact, then have at it. But grand pronouncements and rhetoric are unnecessary and not welcome.

Fourth, let me give you an example of a "non-dick" way to respond to my post: "I'm not certain Dona was credible. That said, if she is, it is still possible that she did actually hear 305 and not the F-106s as you suggest. Moreover, concerning the media reference regarding the Capt. Scott comment about being further west I'll just say that media reports are often unreliable and faulty. My money is still on the FBI Flight Path being accurate."

Simple as that. Cheers!