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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2580 on: September 16, 2020, 06:20:34 PM »
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Cooper handed money to Tina.. she took it and claimed to return it. Now, Cooper's prints would likely be on that money. So, handing money to Tina was not smart and contradicts his perceived thoroughness.

It was Cooper's money? of course his prints would be found on any of it he touched prior to or after exiting the plane..plus dozens of other prints would be found on the money since it was in circulation prior to being stored at the bank..does't mean any good prints would be found or even able to link to him..

I notice a lot of people think more like today vs 1971..

You missed what I was saying as well Fly..it makes no difference touching the money..doesn't prove anything. the hijacking was a risk..

Cooper was concerned about things LEFT on the plane and not going with him. they catch him with the money and he's busted. the serial numbers will help link the money to him and not his prints..it's like worrying about prints on his glasses...if they accepted the money then possibly they could of got prints. possibly..the sharpest criminal makes mistakes.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2581 on: September 16, 2020, 08:53:21 PM »
For those who desire yet another example of the fallibility of experts on occasion, look no further than today's Congressional Report on the 737 MAX. Boeing's engineers F'd up.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2582 on: September 16, 2020, 09:20:10 PM »
Cooper offered Tina some of the ransom. does this imply Cooper was clumsy for getting his prints on the cash since he was so concerned about things left on the plane that had prints? has anyone even been linked this way? was it simply an oversight that Cooper missed. I don't think it points to anything.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2583 on: September 17, 2020, 09:42:44 AM »
Cooper was " meticulous" to an extent. he left behind the drinking cup. it's another mistake he did and common with what a lot of criminal do. they make mistakes. I doubt touching the money even crossed his mind. I don't think I've ever said he was meticulous.

He was specific in asking for items back. that's a clear sign of wanting to cover his tracks. McCoy did a similar mistake by not getting back all the notes. today, one would worry about everything they did or touched. I just don't believe the argument of touching the money would be a factor. a lot of things are racing through a criminals mind. each will be different under pressure. they will ALL make mistakes even when trying to erase the trail...

Tina also made mistakes. she should of kept the cup and not thrown it away causing them to collect four cups vs the one he drank from..
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2584 on: September 17, 2020, 10:17:16 AM »
I am currently uploading a high rez photo from May of 1980. I will post the photo once I get it loaded and post it where it can be visible in high resolution for all to see...

Update...the photo isn't the greatest of all photo's for $35 but you can zoom in and see a waterline right up to the money spot..the road behind the money location is very clear. something I've had trouble explaining over the years. the file is 882 MB...

I am behind getting out of my house and will have to upload online when I get back. it takes too long for the process to complete.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2585 on: September 17, 2020, 10:36:52 AM »
I will upload a screenshot for now..I will have the link in a couple minutes..

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2586 on: September 17, 2020, 11:01:31 AM »
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I will upload a screenshot for now..I will have the link in a couple minutes..

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Money find spot is in the image below. It is not on a high water line. What it's on is seen in the other attached pic from Tom.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2587 on: September 17, 2020, 11:07:20 AM »
The photo will need to be shown to someone who can verify what things are we see..it appears to be a waterline since the water would be soaking the beach for sometime while retreating to low tide..I'll leave open to speculation vs fact..the 1980 helicopter photo does show a line but nowhere near the location...
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2588 on: September 17, 2020, 12:00:57 PM »
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The photo will need to be shown to someone who can verify what things are we see..it appears to be a waterline since the water would be soaking the beach for sometime while retreating to low tide..I'll leave open to speculation vs fact..the 1980 helicopter photo does show a line but nowhere near the location...

The discoloration is a little steeper slope leading into the river without vegetation. Within a couple of feet of the water's edge is the wet area from waves and slight changes in the river level. The money find spot resides on the "plateau"--for lack of a better word--where various debris and vegetation is more prominent.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2589 on: September 17, 2020, 02:28:56 PM »
It's probably the high waterline...look south and you will see most of the temp shacks right on that line..
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2590 on: September 17, 2020, 03:21:18 PM »
I missed no point Fly..you group me in with those who claim he was meticulous. he left the cup he drank out of. that should of had prints to get him and it didn't. leaving the cup means nothing but giving Tina the money proves why he left the tie?
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2591 on: September 17, 2020, 03:24:37 PM »
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It's probably the high waterline...look south and you will see most of the temp shacks right on that line..

Look at all of the footage and pics and you will see what I'm referring to. The money find spot and the tree it was near were not at the high water mark.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2592 on: September 17, 2020, 03:26:03 PM »
I know where the money location is...I know a slope is there that could be caused by water...where do you think the high waterline is?
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2593 on: September 17, 2020, 03:29:42 PM »
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I know where the money location is...I know a slope is there that could be caused by water...where do you think the high waterline is?

The regular water line fluctuates along the waterline a couple of feet...not 50 feet. You can see this wet area in a lot of the footage. Also, the digging and trenching at Tena Bar took place over at least a few days...did the river water ever rise and erase or fill in one single foot of any of these lines?
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #2594 on: September 17, 2020, 03:30:57 PM »
where does 50 feet come in?
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