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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #255 on: April 08, 2015, 11:34:53 PM »
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I was discussing with another poster earlier about how things get lost in the threads. actually he brought it up,  anyway I was thinking of starting a website to load up important facts about the case that we discuss here, but tend to get lost in the pages. I  believe I can put the site on this server. it's part of the plan I have.

It could be a permanent quick reference of things.

Thoughts?

That is a great idea!  And make sure that all discussing of things on that site is done here so they won't get buried in the commentary again.  Maybe I will have some things to consider for that site once I start writing again.


Ok, we are a go for launching a website!!!

I could use some idea's on how to structure it. I looked over the site builder and understand how it works, but I need some input. I know I will have a page for Vicki, and NMI to place important information, but any idea's will help me in formatting a style...pages, categories etc....


NMI, did you build your site?

sounds ok.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #256 on: April 08, 2015, 11:38:29 PM »
I'm messing around with the site builder on different templates. I just picked this one out of a couple hundred for a test. this took about 20 minutes to make. this will disappear in 24 hours. it's only a temp file....


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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #257 on: April 09, 2015, 08:17:45 AM »
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NMI, did you build your site?
Yes.  I use Moonfruit.com.  It's pretty easy to create and edit, once you get the hang of it.  Here are links to my site, and my friend's site:
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #258 on: April 09, 2015, 09:47:18 AM »
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NMI, did you build your site?
Yes.  I use Moonfruit.com.  It's pretty easy to create and edit, once you get the hang of it.  Here are links to my site, and my friend's site:
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Thanks for the info, but I figured out my site builder that comes with this server. I was hoping to get some pointers in advance. I don't have to worry now about possibly pointing the site, or new website to this server. it has all the tools needed built into my Cpanel.

I think the best thing to do is make it a sub domain?
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What Really Happened
« Reply #259 on: May 02, 2015, 07:08:03 PM »
I was reading two books based on D. B. Cooper: D. B. Cooper What Really Happened and D. B. Cooper The Real McCoy. I noticed that a lot of the information presented about the actual skyjacking contradicted wasn't present and a lot of the info I wanted wasn't even presented. I was wondering where I could find information on what really happened. All I could think of was the interviews with the plane crew and passengers, although to my knowledge these are not public. Any ideas?
 

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Re: What Really Happened
« Reply #260 on: May 02, 2015, 07:13:56 PM »
Hi Josh, welcome to the forum. the best answer I have at the moment is, welcome to the club. this case can get confusing, but we have a lot of people here that can answer any questions you might have.

Also, I will be moving this thread to the general questions about Cooper area. I'm trying to keep the amount of threads down to a minimum.

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Re: What Really Happened
« Reply #261 on: May 02, 2015, 07:23:21 PM »
We have a guy here by the name of Bruce Smith. he just wrote a book that might interest you. you can find it here on the "Book Discussion About DB Cooper" thread.
 

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Re: What Really Happened
« Reply #262 on: May 03, 2015, 01:05:58 AM »
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I was reading two books based on D. B. Cooper: D. B. Cooper What Really Happened and D. B. Cooper The Real McCoy. I noticed that a lot of the information presented about the actual skyjacking contradicted wasn't present and a lot of the info I wanted wasn't even presented. I was wondering where I could find information on what really happened. All I could think of was the interviews with the plane crew and passengers, although to my knowledge these are not public. Any ideas?

What is the info you seek?
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #263 on: May 03, 2015, 03:56:51 PM »
My book has a complete interview with passenger Bill Mitchell. I also share lengthy tidbits of my 70-minute conversation with Bill Rataczak. I also chatted with passenger Almstad, and spoke with the family of Robert Gregory.

Plus, I detail at great length my efforts to speak with Tina Mucklow and Florence Shaffner.
 

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Re: What Really Happened
« Reply #264 on: May 03, 2015, 04:04:07 PM »
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I was reading two books based on D. B. Cooper: D. B. Cooper What Really Happened and D. B. Cooper The Real McCoy. I noticed that a lot of the information presented about the actual skyjacking contradicted wasn't present and a lot of the info I wanted wasn't even presented. I was wondering where I could find information on what really happened. All I could think of was the interviews with the plane crew and passengers, although to my knowledge these are not public. Any ideas?

Josh, both books you mention are written by cops, and you have just experienced one of the troubling dynamics of law enforcement, especially in the DB Cooper case. Basically, cops don't think their shit stinks, so what they write is the only stuff worth knowing about. Wait until you read Himmelsbach!

So, if you read their books with that perspective, and are willing to look elsewhere for a more comprehensive picture, then your abovementioned works are valuable, especially Calame and Rhodes, which I consider a remarkable addition to the Cooper literature. Nobody in LE is writing with such courage and delivering such searing information.

To wit: Rhodes writes that Cooper agents were under the influence of a post-hypnotic suggestion when he interviewed them!

So, that is why guys like me, a humble journalist, still has a job. We tend to tell a fuller story.
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Re: What Really Happened
« Reply #265 on: May 03, 2015, 04:09:55 PM »
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I was reading two books based on D. B. Cooper: D. B. Cooper What Really Happened and D. B. Cooper The Real McCoy. I noticed that a lot of the information presented about the actual skyjacking contradicted wasn't present and a lot of the info I wanted wasn't even presented. I was wondering where I could find information on what really happened. All I could think of was the interviews with the plane crew and passengers, although to my knowledge these are not public. Any ideas?

Josh, both books you mention are written by cops, and you have just experienced one of the troubling dynamics of law enforcement, especially in the DB Cooper case. Basically, cops don't think their shit stinks, so what they write is the only stuff worth knowing about. Wait until you read Himmelsbach!

So, if you read their books with that perspective, and are willing to look elsewhere for a more comprehensive picture, then your abovementioned works are valuable, especially Calame and Rhodes, which I consider a remarkable addition to the Cooper literature. Nobody in LE is writing with such courage and delivering such searing information.

To wit: Rhodes writes that Cooper agents were under the influence of a post-hypnotic suggestion when he interviewed them!

So, that is why guys like me, a humble journalist, still has a job. We tend to tell a fuller story.

How true!  I believe you are the only Cooper writer to even mention "remote viewing". :)
 

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Re: What Really Happened
« Reply #266 on: May 03, 2015, 05:24:59 PM »
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I was reading two books based on D. B. Cooper: D. B. Cooper What Really Happened and D. B. Cooper The Real McCoy. I noticed that a lot of the information presented about the actual skyjacking contradicted wasn't present and a lot of the info I wanted wasn't even presented. I was wondering where I could find information on what really happened. All I could think of was the interviews with the plane crew and passengers, although to my knowledge these are not public. Any ideas?

Josh, both books you mention are written by cops, and you have just experienced one of the troubling dynamics of law enforcement, especially in the DB Cooper case. Basically, cops don't think their shit stinks, so what they write is the only stuff worth knowing about. Wait until you read Himmelsbach!

So, if you read their books with that perspective, and are willing to look elsewhere for a more comprehensive picture, then your abovementioned works are valuable, especially Calame and Rhodes, which I consider a remarkable addition to the Cooper literature. Nobody in LE is writing with such courage and delivering such searing information.

To wit: Rhodes writes that Cooper agents were under the influence of a post-hypnotic suggestion when he interviewed them!

So, that is why guys like me, a humble journalist, still has a job. We tend to tell a fuller story.

Bullshit. You are an IDIOT! ;D
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #267 on: May 03, 2015, 07:49:17 PM »
There is always that perspective, too, Josh.
 

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General Questions About The Case
« Reply #268 on: May 03, 2015, 10:37:02 PM »
Can any of the people who have made deliberate water jumps answer these questions:

1.  Will a back pack or reserve pack, completely unopened, float by itself if it lands in water and is not attached to anything?

2.  If so, how long will it float under the above conditions?  It is understood that it will eventually get saturated with water and then sink.     
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #269 on: May 04, 2015, 09:11:44 AM »
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Can any of the people who have made deliberate water jumps answer these questions:

1.  Will a back pack or reserve pack, completely unopened, float by itself if it lands in water and is not attached to anything?

2.  If so, how long will it float under the above conditions?  It is understood that it will eventually get saturated with water and then sink.   

That's a great question.  I tend to think the chute packs and money bag would be negatively buoyant after the air is forced out of them.  The Cooper suspects body would probably be negatively buoyant also, because the impact would drive the air from his lungs and because of his body type.  It sounds like he didn't have much body fat, and muscle is about 3 time denser than fat, so in short, muscle tends to sink and fat tends to float.

We do need to find out if the chute packs are buoyant though.
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