Move the discussion where we need to go, Shut.

I already mentioned the problem. I'm a little busy at the moment. I'll move the topic when I get a chance. if the earths rotation stops, I'll jump right on it...

As a Minnesotan, I try not to laugh about the cold arguments. I don't even put gloves on until it's -10f.

Well, here we have another problem. I was like that while living in Ohio. now, I'm cold at 65 degree's. we southern boys bundle up down here 

A couple weeks ago it got down in the low 40's with a wind chill of mid 30's. I thought they were testing cryogenics down here 

DNA was first used as a forensic tool in the mid-1980s, in the UK, according to a recent Netflix docu that I watched. It took about another 5-10 years for techniques to be perfected and for LE to realize what they had.

The German investigator B. Mueller conceived the use of alpha-amylase as a forensic tool to validate the presence of saliva on a given surface, in 1928. By 1950, 37 standard forensic tests had been developed using saliva as the target. Hundreds of tests using saliva had been developed within medical science!

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If agents don't order tests, tests are not done. If agents don't know what tests to order then nothing may be done ... Many agents in the early 70s knew very little about forensic testing because it wasn't in their standard training regime. Some sections of the country were worse than others. Out of all of the agents that worked the Tina Bar dig in 1980, only one had an average science-forensics background! He is the one who insisted on scoring a grid in the sand .... "with the jawbone of an ass"! The sense of doing that became apparent later.

“Cain slew Abel with the jawbone of an ass,” He had left his molecular separator laser at home.

The point is, Bruce, in the 1970s there was a well developed arsenal of forensic methods available, to those that chose to use them. It was a management issue far more than a scientific toolkit issue.

 

[edit] Cooper may have left evidence behind thinking that LE wasn't up to the task. Or, he may have had no concern about evidence, in any event. We don't know who he was to know, do we!

Idea:  Let's just assume he knew enough to get himself into trouble, but he didn't know that fingers leave finger prints! He probably ate red licorice and had a hula hoop?

Shut, you have lived a sheltered life. You can't imagine anyone robbing a bank or hijacking an airplane who is "normal"?

Criminals are not weird or abnormal in my observation. Did you see the docu on the Vatican that's on Netflix that I recommended?  The priests said mass in their vestments after having an all-night sex orgy. That is fairly normal behavior for the Vatican, as I understand it. The larger question is what to do about it. Clearly, one thing that I recommend is not to allow those fellows to be near children.

So, stealing an airplane could be something as simple as climbing a mountain - they do it just because it's there.

As for threatening to kill people with a bomb, lots of guys enjoy killing. I was surprised to learn from so many vets in therapy that they admitted they enjoyed the hunt immensely, and war was fun - they had the best sex of their lives.

Maybe DB Cooper just enjoyed the turn on. I think it is an investigatory mistake to think that DB Cooper was a guy like you, a man who does what you would do, thinks and feels as you do.

That perspective is what Sluggo called "cultural goggles" and I think it is an important dynamic to bring to the Cooper conversation.

I suspect that DB Cooper was a man very different from you or I.

Shut, you have lived a sheltered life. You can't imagine anyone robbing a bank or hijacking an airplane who is "normal"?

I've hardly lived a sheltered life Bruce. committing a crime that has to do with death, or violence is not a normal thing to do. sure, people make mistakes and kill someone out of anger, or snap, but it's not premeditated in some cases. hijacking a plane is not normal, if it was we would have millions of them, no? I've been down the criminal road, have you? I'm still paying for it! I'm in my 50's now, this was a long time ago back in my late teens to early 20's.

I suspect that DB Cooper was a man very different from you or I.

Meaning, not normal?

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The problems I'm seeing in this topic area is questions that could be asked on the existing topics. Sailshaw could of easily asked his question under the Flight path thread. it's hard to narrow down a basic question while we have existing areas where they can be asked already in place. perhaps this topic should be removed, or locked for the time being?

Thoughts?

Most, but not all, of my questions could be put into categories. However, I think a case can be made for having a Q&A thread like this so people can go to one place to seek answers to specific questions without changing the trajectories of existing threads. It's something I noticed on DZ, there would be a few pages of good information, and it would get derailed by something like a question or inane comment and the discussion stops and devolves to meaninglessness.

Actually a Q&A category might be a good idea. ??

The problems I see is it's hard to stay on one topic while discussing this case. we are currently in "General Questions About The Case". do we really need another thread? Tina Bar, and the flight path clash constantly. then while discussing a suspect other things come into play. the majority rules here on this forum. it's up to you guys to decide if another thread needs to be added.

Should I make a poll asking this question?

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The problems I'm seeing in this topic area is questions that could be asked on the existing topics. Sailshaw could of easily asked his question under the Flight path thread. it's hard to narrow down a basic question while we have existing areas where they can be asked already in place. perhaps this topic should be removed, or locked for the time being?

Thoughts?

Most, but not all, of my questions could be put into categories. However, I think a case can be made for having a Q&A thread like this so people can go to one place to seek answers to specific questions without changing the trajectories of existing threads. It's something I noticed on DZ, there would be a few pages of good information, and it would get derailed by something like a question or inane comment and the discussion stops and devolves to meaninglessness.

Actually a Q&A category might be a good idea. ??

The problems I see is it's hard to stay on one topic while discussing this case. we are currently in "General Questions About The Case". do we really need another thread? Tina Bar, and the flight path clash constantly. then while discussing a suspect other things come into play. the majority rules here on this forum. it's up to you guys to decide if another thread needs to be added.

Should I make a poll asking this question?

Well we already have this thread: General Questions About the Case. That should handle any Q&A. People already ask questions and get answers here. We also have threads that never get used. How many pigeon holes are needed?