Not exactly.
Scott said the flight path was WEST of Ariel over Woodland, not east over the Washougal, at Himmelsbach's retirement party, according to Calame and Rhodes.
But Himmelsbach is ADAMANT that Rataczak told him 305 was over the Washougal.
The clip from the KOIN reporter, Mike Monaghan, infers that Scott claimed Washougal, too, but does not make clear how or why he would say that. The FBI debriefing report on Scott is pretty sketchy. Ol' Scotty didn't say much of anything, deferring to everyone else.
Remember, JT was not at Himmelsbach's retirement party. Jerry and Ralph only connected in the late 1990s, according to Himmelsbach, when Jerry was roaming the Washougal River valley and found that briefcase in the cave, etc.
As I recall all of the posts about this: a number of people spoke to H about various things, at informal gatherings, during the time H was retiring, not just at his retirement party. According to JT, H reprises all of this to JT some years later.
I agree: Scott's original position was 'near Woodland' or 'over Woodland', then he changed or softened that later ... ?
Not sure what Rad's "original" statements were. There are so many (sometimes conflicting) statements attributed to Rad at various times. But Rad is generally given credit for telling H '... now I think we were east ...'. If Calme etal say this happened at H's retirement party I would go with that - you might as well! Maybe Rad threw in Mars but changed his mind later?
I dont personally believe Rad can be nailed down to anything because I think he has operated under a "don't talk' mandate ever since the hijacking and has made so many conflicting statements that nothing is definite.
Anderson?
The NWA/FBI La Center Search Map pretty much speaks for what people were saying/thinking back in 71-72.
I dont think there is any secret code book or testimony waiting to be found that is going to change any of this. We have the basic records that exist.
If you recall (its documented in the Transcript). Tina came in a said 'I think he's going to jump soon', or something to that affect. That was radioed in to everyone by Scott. That set the stage for everyone being alert to an imminent jump. But, how seriously did they take this? Were they actually keeping track minute by minute? According to just about everyone they suspected something had happened but nobody was 100% sure, and Anderson says they discussed it (the oscillations and then pressure spike) before calling it in then finally after some discussion Rataczak called it in abruptly! Rataczak even says "he jumped some time probably 5-10 minutes after our last communication with him". That's about as precise as it gets which goes back to the question 'how diligent were they being after Tina came in saying 'he's getting ready to jump sometime soon' ?
I think there is more to this story than any of the principles are telling publicly. Whatever principles testified to or told H or didn't tell H at some date, in 1976 H called a reporter and stated publicly that the FBI had revised the jump time and place which he stated was now "12 miles north of Portland". H then retires 4 years later...
And 'yes'. Anything JT knows or has came in years later from H vs. firsthand witness. JT is a spectator in this whole thing!
Many of JT's claims have been shown to be uninformed and untrue.
