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Rataczak Redux

Anybody upset that Bill Rataczak changed his story on the History Channel, again?

Big Time, this time, saying that they were flying over terrain that had 5,000-foot elevation. That can only mean he was far east of V-23 and zooming over the far slopes of Mt. St Helens and the other Cascadian peaks.

I can respect a man saying that he is tired and wants to put a 45-year old story to bed. But when he starts dropping big hints about the truth being different than what everyone had been believing, well, Billy, ya gotta take my phone call. To clam up again is just irresponsible.

Yes, I know that Bill and Tina are being nominated for sainthood after their heart-felt interview on the History Channel - I wept along with Bill - but his comments need investigation, and Tina owes me, well if not an apology, than an explanation. 11 slammed doors is not proper behavior for a saint. Or even a nun. Or even an ex-nun.

Maybe R99 can comment on Bill's (new?) account ? 

Maybe it was a back-ass way of Bill trying to say: 'we were only at 5000 ft not 10, 000 ft ...'? That conflicts with the flight comms. Who knows why he said what he said!  It just adds more complexity to an already complex mystery.

Thank you sir for your response(s). I am wondering what options they actually had when leaving Seattle?  flaps at 15 degrees  no higher than 10000 ft. altitude     stairs down  ordered to head south     not knowing how this would affect their fuel consumption          Seems like Reno was their only viable option .  Does this make sense?     Were they limited to where they could find airstrips capable of handling a 727's landing?   And once they decided on Reno wouldn't they take the shortest possible route?   Wouldn't this also put them closer to Tina bar?

Tina's Front Door Etiquette

Upon closer examination, it's not 11 slammed doors. It's only three, plus a bunch of walk-aways, door closures, and phone hang-ups.

Here's the list:

The 11 Slammed Doors/ Phone Hang-ups:

1. Springfield, Oregon, August 2011, Tina, “You need to leave now.”
2. Springfield, Oregon, August 2011, Tina, three minutes later. BAM!
3. Springfield, Oregon, August 2011, Tina, one minute after #2. BAM and a Dead-Bolt.
4. Dr. ET, Dec. 2010, Philly Hospital Office, Can we talk?  “No.”
5. Cousin Arlene, 2010, Christmas time, all the lights went out.
6. Shelton, WA, Lee Dormuth, Feb. 2011, “I want nothing to do with it.”
7. Shelton, WA, Lee Dormuth, April 2011, “I have nothing to do with it.”
8. Carmel of Maria Regina, Sister Teresa, Feb. 2011, “I am going back to my prayers.”
9. Phone invitation, 2015, Tina, “I'm not interested. Click.”
10. Phone query on “permanent trauma,” Dr. ET, 2009, “...we need to respect her privacy. Goodbye.”
11. Phone conversation with FA Leslie, 2012, “I knew Tina as a wonderful, sweet person. That's all I want to say. Click.”

Bruce wrote: Also, I am saying that the Tina that we all saw and loved on TV is not the same person I met in 2011.

Taking Bruce literally ( )... maybe the FBI substituted a ringer for Tina on the History Channel production?

I'm still intrigued by Tina's use of psych tech terms, "psychotic ideation" etc. She basically said Cooper showed no obvious signs of mental illness.

Tina was so articulate and poised. So was Mary Jane. Not so for Marla.

And speaking of Marla, what was she talking about when she said something about a "computer somehow knew that the hijacker was an alcoholic? or something like that...

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Bruce wrote: Also, I am saying that the Tina that we all saw and loved on TV is not the same person I met in 2011.

Taking Bruce literally ( )... maybe the FBI substituted a ringer for Tina on the History Channel production?

I'm still intrigued by Tina's use of psych tech terms, "psychotic ideation" etc. She basically said Cooper showed no obvious signs of mental illness.

Tina was so articulate and poised. So was Mary Jane. Not so for Marla.

And speaking of Marla, what was she talking about when she said something about a "computer somehow knew that the hijacker was an alcoholic? or something like that...

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Fuentes talks about Marla's story that it starts with A-B-C-D, which make sense and eventually leads to W-X-Y-Z which are nutty.  That particular part is a real reach and fits in the W-X-Y-Z category.


It's a reference to something in Himmelsbach's book.  This is the relevant snippet from her book.  Hope I'm within the copyright laws in posting it.

"Northwest’s Sea-Tac Operations Manager, Al Lee has been instructed to wear plain clothes, rather than his uniform, when he meets flight 305 with the ransom money and the parachutes. The airline does not want to take the risk that the hijacker might mistakenly think Al is a cop because of his uniform.

"At the time of this transmission, the passenger’s identity (or rather the false name he gave when he purchased his ticket) has not been determined. And yet, “a mysterious” communication comes from Northwest’s headquarters to the cockpit and SeaTac: “The passenger who boarded the plane in Portland had a previous arrest for drunkenness.” Himmelsbach weakly explains
this “mysterious communication” this way: “Law enforcement computers were working on the case!”

"Even after all I knew, I couldn’t believe my eyes. For one thing, what a silly ass explanation: “Law enforcement computers were working on the case!” Even if the false name of the hijacker was known, which it (supposedly) was NOT at the time of this transmission, how did this “law enforcement computer” determine that particular individual had been arrested for anything ever? All the hijacker gave to purchase his ticket was twenty bucks and a fictitious name: “Dan Cooper,” which the airline employee wrote on the ticket. Today there are twenty-nine white page listings for Dan Cooper in the state of Oregon alone. I wonder how many there were in 1971 who had been arrested for… wait for it… Drunkenness.

"Not DUI. Not drunk driving. Not public drunk. Drunkenness. The same term used to describe my Uncle’s arrest record. Northwest headquarters somehow had this information. Whoever sent that transmission must have known who was hijacking the plane before it left the ground."