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Nice report Hominid....as usual. thanks for clearing it up. didn't Jo claim she wrote "No" on the map 

Thanks.  Haven't a clue re. her claiming it.  Don't read much of what she writes.  Too hard to figure out what she's trying to say.

Jo DID claim that she wrote "NO" on the map.  But that doesn't mean that she had even seen it before it turned up online here.

Are you saying people's posts create Jo's next headline?   

Yes, indeed!  Just make a post that Batman was involved in the Cooper hijacking and Jo will weave him into one of her five page posts and include first hand stories of how Batman and Duane were pub-crawling buddies.  And how Duane attended Robin's Bar Mitzvah.

No one knows that better than Himmelsbach! He really stepped into it when he took Jo in.

Blevins is playing his usual games with the flight path issue. Very simply it was the FBI, Larry Carr,  (who came to us!) looking for advice about ... the flight path. Neither Cooper or any sign of him has ever been found, except for his money. The location of the money and the known flight path are quite divergent. It only makes sense that one would question the flight path and that is precisely what Carr and the FBI came to Dropzone to do ...... so Whiplash Blevins amid your claims of personal abuse and other Chicken Little stuff, don't try to change the history of Dropzone, and that's just for starters.

So you accept the FBI's flight path on faith, without knowing anything about it other than empty platitudes
and name-dropping,  and people you don't know anything about either! Frankly, you speaking about the DB Cooper flight path is a lot like the horses' ass speaking about radar! Give the world a break Blevinaide, from your ignorant self abusive games.

Stop with the red herring: 'have you talked to Rataczak?'. You have not talked to Rataczak! 

Stop with the straw man: "You should be talking to the FBI, not me!". Well Blevinaide, nobody is talking to you about anything looking for answers. It is you doing all the talking! People are merely answering trying to cope with your personal attacks you have repeated thousands of times since August 2010. The correct response would be: "GFY and STFU and go scrub a floor or clean carpet and stay the hell out of the Cooper debate and people's lives!!" 

Quick Test: You tell us what Cooper's last order was for flap settings just prior to his bailing out?

You tell us where flight #305 was at 8:20pm

You tell us where the T33's came from and how and where they were directed to intercept 305, by who?

 


 




       

Let me try and answer for him since he returns that favor so many time in the past.

Some "pretty smart guys" made the flight path.

Those same "smart guys" including members from NWO are too stupid to realize one of there own guys did this crime 

Followed by LOL, (*wink*) (*smiles*) and a lot of "are you kidding me (*laughs*)"

This is the same guy looking for truth, but wants to hold off the report to the FBI in order to push a questionable story about movie rights about the "KC Saga" the guy who wants to stall them, but only has until Sunday?

And his use of "pretty smart guys" comes directly from Tom Kaye@! They are Tom's words! Blevins is even stealing Tom line and using it as his own!!!

What a Smurf.

 

Ok, our fun is over with a 2 post per day maximum. let's try to keep things focused on this side of the board. yes, that includes me too. 

Carr states this about the flight path:

"The map is an investigative tool calculated from several pieces of evidence. If one piece is slightly wrong it throws off the map, which could explain why nothing was found on the original search and the money was found where it was."

He also explains in a video that the map shows the path the plane took, or the alleged flight path. both comments leave questions about the path.

more to follow:

I am with you on the oscillation, when i read through the case file it seems as if the "pressure bump" and oscillation were one in the same. For me the finding of the money changes all of that. If there is no logical, verifiable piece of evidence or information that can point to the money ending up where it did by human hands, then it had to get there on its own from the environment. Since I can't find anything that says it was human, then it had to be environment. Because there is no way the money could have ended up where it did from
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the original search area, then the original dropzone was calculated wrong. Therefore, it stands to reason that the crew felt oscillations at 8:12 and the pressure bump a few minutes later. The second officer stated the last contact they had with Cooper was 8:05 and it was 5 to 10 minutes after that they felt the pressure change. I also don't think a trained air crew would mix up terms, an oscillation would be just that and a pressure change would be called a pressure change or bump. I think where things went wrong was during the testing. For some reason we were not to re-create oscillations only the pressure bump. At this point the terms must have been combined and believed to be one in the same.

Ckret never talked to Anderson, so far as I know. I hope I am not wrong about that. I hope I am not wrong about that because if Ckret had talked to Anderson (and he still could!), if the answers we have from Anderson are true, then the bump was not reported immediately with the bump happening but a number of minutes later, "after we discussed it for a few minutes then Rataczak called it in and we still weren't sure...". It's delays like that that add up in  minutes at precisely the time when minutes in reporting, and assigning a time to the jump, is crucial. Three minutes? Five minutes? That brings the location of the jump further south of say Battleground, closer to the Columbia itself. And exploring issues like that was one of the key reason Ckret came to Dropzone at all. (which Blevins seems totally unaware of.)
     

Wild card question -

Were there any revolving beacons or lights (aviation or maritime) working in the vicinity of PDX or Vancouver or Portland on the night of the hijacking, when 305 passed through?
 

A quick guess would be lights on the bridges for one. then of course PDX just to the east....

Pearson field airport close to I-5

I spotted a tower while flying at night. I took a screenshot of the sim, and Google street view. they are in the same location a little over a half a mile north of the Columbia on I-5 it has a blinking beacon (red)

High things all over the country have blinking lights (red, if I'm remembering right).  Example:  AM radio antennas.  It's to keep planes from crashing into them at night.  This was true in the 1970 dark ages too.

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I spotted a tower while flying at night. I took a screenshot of the sim, and Google street view. they are in the same location a little over a half a mile north of the Columbia on I-5 it has a blinking beacon (red)

High things all over the country have blinking lights (red, if I'm remembering right).  Example:  AM radio antennas.  It's to keep planes from crashing into them at night.  This was true in the 1970 dark ages too.

Correct, I was just answering G's question about lights in the area. you also have different intensities with different heights.

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Were there any revolving beacons or lights (aviation or maritime)

Rataczak says he, they, could see the lights of Portland/Vancouver coming up - at 8:10. Some dispute this was possible due to cloud cover. Rotating beacons, like light houses, tend to be noticed from a distance due to the blinking on/off effect.  It's likely Cooper looked around from the stairs at least prior to jumping. People have said the bright lights on the Lake Merwin dam might have been visible from a distance.  Bright rotating and blinking beacons near PDX might have been visible?  It's just a thought -