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R99, EU, Shutter, Georger, and anyone who has really focused on the flight path: Refresh me if you can.  Do we know an exact timestamp and location at any point on the flight path, even the exact takeoff time?  I thought there were a few points where we know for sure where the plane was and at an exact time, but as it got closer to the jump time of 8:12, 8:13 etc, that it got a little questionable.  Didn't Shutter program a few exact spots/times in the flight simulation?  R99, is this all that redacted info you've been searching for? Thanks.

The time stamps in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts and the Oakland ATC radio transcripts are Greenwich Mean Time and accurate to the second.  Captain Scott said the takeoff time from SEATAC was 7:36 PM PST and the airliner was talking to the Seattle ATC Center by 7:37:11 PM PST so Scott's statement is accurate.

At 9:45 PM PST, the airliner is handed off to the Oakland ATC Center and the Seattle end of the conversation is included in the Oakland ATC radio transcripts.  The Oakland ATC radio transcripts include the telephone communications between Oakland ATC and Seattle ATC controllers.  The Seattle ATC controller tells the Oakland ATC controller at 9:45 PM PST that the airliner is one mile south of the Fort Jones VORTAC in Northern California.  The Oakland ATC controller then locates the airliner and the handoff is made.

The above times and locations are accurate.  But with a bit less accuracy, three more positions and times can be estimated for the airliner between SEATAC and just south of Portland.  This involves comparing the times of transmissions over the ARINC radio patch and the time stamp of those transmissions over the ARINC teletype network.

The 19 deletions from the Seattle ATC radio transcripts would all be concerned with air traffic control matters and give such things as locations and times at those locations.  The transmissions between the flight crew and the NWA offices in Seattle and Minneapolis would all be conducted over the ARINC radio patch and teletype network.  Inputs from the FBI and others would be over the ARINC telephone patch.

Personnel at the WSHM had access to many of the ARINC teletype transmissions that were made from the airliner during the hijacking.  They concluded that a number of these transmissions had also been deleted.  So we have more deletions here also.

Those 19 deletions in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, which are actually in the public domain, are what I tried to obtain by three FOIA request through the FBI/FAA and my US Congressman.  None were successful.

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R99, EU, Shutter, Georger, and anyone who has really focused on the flight path: Refresh me if you can.  Do we know an exact timestamp and location at any point on the flight path, even the exact takeoff time?  I thought there were a few points where we know for sure where the plane was and at an exact time, but as it got closer to the jump time of 8:12, 8:13 etc, that it got a little questionable.  Didn't Shutter program a few exact spots/times in the flight simulation?  R99, is this all that redacted info you've been searching for? Thanks.

The time stamps in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts and the Oakland ATC radio transcripts are Greenwich Mean Time and accurate to the second.  Captain Scott said the takeoff time from SEATAC was 7:36 PM PST and the airliner was talking to the Seattle ATC Center by 7:37:11 PM PST so Scott's statement is accurate.

At 9:45 PM PST, the airliner is handed off to the Oakland ATC Center and the Seattle end of the conversation is included in the Oakland ATC radio transcripts.  The Oakland ATC radio transcripts include the telephone communications between Oakland ATC and Seattle ATC controllers.  The Seattle ATC controller tells the Oakland ATC controller at 9:45 PM PST that the airliner is one mile south of the Fort Jones VORTAC in Northern California.  The Oakland ATC controller then locates the airliner and the handoff is made.

The above times and locations are accurate.  But with a bit less accuracy, three more positions and times can be estimated for the airliner between SEATAC and just south of Portland.  This involves comparing the times of transmissions over the ARINC radio patch and the time stamp of those transmissions over the ARINC teletype network.

The 19 deletions from the Seattle ATC radio transcripts would all be concerned with air traffic control matters and give such things as locations and times at those locations.  The transmissions between the flight crew and the NWA offices in Seattle and Minneapolis would all be conducted over the ARINC radio patch and teletype network.  Inputs from the FBI and others would be over the ARINC telephone patch.

Personnel at the WSHM had access to many of the ARINC teletype transmissions that were made from the airliner during the hijacking.  They concluded that a number of these transmissions had also been deleted.  So we have more deletions here also.

Those 19 deletions in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, which are actually in the public domain, are what I tried to obtain by three FOIA request through the FBI/FAA and my US Congressman.  None were successful.

Who made the redactions you claim? When and where?

Why dont you ever reply to straight-forward questions?

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R99, EU, Shutter, Georger, and anyone who has really focused on the flight path: Refresh me if you can.  Do we know an exact timestamp and location at any point on the flight path, even the exact takeoff time?  I thought there were a few points where we know for sure where the plane was and at an exact time, but as it got closer to the jump time of 8:12, 8:13 etc, that it got a little questionable.  Didn't Shutter program a few exact spots/times in the flight simulation?  R99, is this all that redacted info you've been searching for? Thanks.

The time stamps in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts and the Oakland ATC radio transcripts are Greenwich Mean Time and accurate to the second.  Captain Scott said the takeoff time from SEATAC was 7:36 PM PST and the airliner was talking to the Seattle ATC Center by 7:37:11 PM PST so Scott's statement is accurate.

At 9:45 PM PST, the airliner is handed off to the Oakland ATC Center and the Seattle end of the conversation is included in the Oakland ATC radio transcripts.  The Oakland ATC radio transcripts include the telephone communications between Oakland ATC and Seattle ATC controllers.  The Seattle ATC controller tells the Oakland ATC controller at 9:45 PM PST that the airliner is one mile south of the Fort Jones VORTAC in Northern California.  The Oakland ATC controller then locates the airliner and the handoff is made.

The above times and locations are accurate.  But with a bit less accuracy, three more positions and times can be estimated for the airliner between SEATAC and just south of Portland.  This involves comparing the times of transmissions over the ARINC radio patch and the time stamp of those transmissions over the ARINC teletype network.

The 19 deletions from the Seattle ATC radio transcripts would all be concerned with air traffic control matters and give such things as locations and times at those locations.  The transmissions between the flight crew and the NWA offices in Seattle and Minneapolis would all be conducted over the ARINC radio patch and teletype network.  Inputs from the FBI and others would be over the ARINC telephone patch.

Personnel at the WSHM had access to many of the ARINC teletype transmissions that were made from the airliner during the hijacking.  They concluded that a number of these transmissions had also been deleted.  So we have more deletions here also.

Those 19 deletions in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, which are actually in the public domain, are what I tried to obtain by three FOIA request through the FBI/FAA and my US Congressman.  None were successful.

Who made the redactions you claim? When and where?

Why dont you ever reply to straight-forward questions?

I do reply to straight forward questions.  Unfortunately, you lack of fluency in the English language apparently results in your inability to understand the answers.

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R99, EU, Shutter, Georger, and anyone who has really focused on the flight path: Refresh me if you can.  Do we know an exact timestamp and location at any point on the flight path, even the exact takeoff time?  I thought there were a few points where we know for sure where the plane was and at an exact time, but as it got closer to the jump time of 8:12, 8:13 etc, that it got a little questionable.  Didn't Shutter program a few exact spots/times in the flight simulation?  R99, is this all that redacted info you've been searching for? Thanks.

The time stamps in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts and the Oakland ATC radio transcripts are Greenwich Mean Time and accurate to the second.  Captain Scott said the takeoff time from SEATAC was 7:36 PM PST and the airliner was talking to the Seattle ATC Center by 7:37:11 PM PST so Scott's statement is accurate.

At 9:45 PM PST, the airliner is handed off to the Oakland ATC Center and the Seattle end of the conversation is included in the Oakland ATC radio transcripts.  The Oakland ATC radio transcripts include the telephone communications between Oakland ATC and Seattle ATC controllers.  The Seattle ATC controller tells the Oakland ATC controller at 9:45 PM PST that the airliner is one mile south of the Fort Jones VORTAC in Northern California.  The Oakland ATC controller then locates the airliner and the handoff is made.

The above times and locations are accurate.  But with a bit less accuracy, three more positions and times can be estimated for the airliner between SEATAC and just south of Portland.  This involves comparing the times of transmissions over the ARINC radio patch and the time stamp of those transmissions over the ARINC teletype network.

The 19 deletions from the Seattle ATC radio transcripts would all be concerned with air traffic control matters and give such things as locations and times at those locations.  The transmissions between the flight crew and the NWA offices in Seattle and Minneapolis would all be conducted over the ARINC radio patch and teletype network.  Inputs from the FBI and others would be over the ARINC telephone patch.

Personnel at the WSHM had access to many of the ARINC teletype transmissions that were made from the airliner during the hijacking.  They concluded that a number of these transmissions had also been deleted.  So we have more deletions here also.

Those 19 deletions in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, which are actually in the public domain, are what I tried to obtain by three FOIA request through the FBI/FAA and my US Congressman.  None were successful.

Who made the redactions you claim? When and where?

Why dont you ever reply to straight-forward questions?

I do reply to straight forward questions.  Unfortunately, you lack of fluency in the English language apparently results in your inability to understand the answers.

Hmmmmm. more mystery meat conspiracy bs and personal attack Innuendo! 

Refuses to put meat on his conspiracy corpse because he has no facts he can cite.

You need a press agent R99 and Internet Rehab. May I suggest Dowee, Cheatem, and Howe Ltd!

How many scapegoats do you keep on The West Path Ranch?  How many Pathalopes ?

Just more nonsense from Georger.

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R99, EU, Shutter, Georger, and anyone who has really focused on the flight path: Refresh me if you can.  Do we know an exact timestamp and location at any point on the flight path, even the exact takeoff time?  I thought there were a few points where we know for sure where the plane was and at an exact time, but as it got closer to the jump time of 8:12, 8:13 etc, that it got a little questionable.  Didn't Shutter program a few exact spots/times in the flight simulation?  R99, is this all that redacted info you've been searching for? Thanks.

The time stamps in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts and the Oakland ATC radio transcripts are Greenwich Mean Time and accurate to the second.  Captain Scott said the takeoff time from SEATAC was 7:36 PM PST and the airliner was talking to the Seattle ATC Center by 7:37:11 PM PST so Scott's statement is accurate.

At 9:45 PM PST, the airliner is handed off to the Oakland ATC Center and the Seattle end of the conversation is included in the Oakland ATC radio transcripts.  The Oakland ATC radio transcripts include the telephone communications between Oakland ATC and Seattle ATC controllers.  The Seattle ATC controller tells the Oakland ATC controller at 9:45 PM PST that the airliner is one mile south of the Fort Jones VORTAC in Northern California.  The Oakland ATC controller then locates the airliner and the handoff is made.

The above times and locations are accurate.  But with a bit less accuracy, three more positions and times can be estimated for the airliner between SEATAC and just south of Portland.  This involves comparing the times of transmissions over the ARINC radio patch and the time stamp of those transmissions over the ARINC teletype network.

The 19 deletions from the Seattle ATC radio transcripts would all be concerned with air traffic control matters and give such things as locations and times at those locations.  The transmissions between the flight crew and the NWA offices in Seattle and Minneapolis would all be conducted over the ARINC radio patch and teletype network.  Inputs from the FBI and others would be over the ARINC telephone patch.

Personnel at the WSHM had access to many of the ARINC teletype transmissions that were made from the airliner during the hijacking.  They concluded that a number of these transmissions had also been deleted.  So we have more deletions here also.

Those 19 deletions in the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, which are actually in the public domain, are what I tried to obtain by three FOIA request through the FBI/FAA and my US Congressman.  None were successful.

Thanks Robert.  Just to confirm, we have pretty much an exact time leaving Seattle, and we know times after Portland, but nothing in between?  Shutter-were you able to program exact times? 

The question isn't where the plane was. We know it was generally along Victor 23 for most of the trip south from Seattle. The question is when did Cooper jump. The flight crew reported oscillations between 8:10 and 8:12. At this point, they stated that "he must be doing something with the stairs". We have no documented record of when the pressure bump occurred. No time stamp, nothing. All we have are the statements of the pilots after the fact : "lights of the suburbs of Portland", "10 to 15 minutes after last contact".

As a result, the jump could have occurred anywhere between Orchards and the Columbia.

The fact that the money was found along the Columbia upstream from where the plane crossed over is in my mind a clue that he jumped near the Columbia.

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The fact that the money was found along the Columbia upstream from where the plane crossed over is in my mind a clue that he jumped near the Columbia

This could also give credit to a western path..

The money was found miles downstream from where the airliner would have crossed the Columbia if it stayed on the centerline of V-23 or on the FBI flight path.  If the airliner was flying a straight line between the Malay and Canby Intersections, it would have flown almost directly overhead of Tina Bar and would have been over the Columbia for several miles since the river flows almost straight north in the Tina Bar area and the airliner would have been flying a heading of 178 degrees True (with respect to the grid lines).

There is no reason for the airliner to have been west of this straight line between the Malay and Canby Intersections.