"4. Calame and Rhodes say that Scott told the folks at Himms' retirement party in 1980 that 305 was west of V-23 and over Woodland, WA."

This is what I asked a couple weeks ago about people claiming the plane flew over Woodland. just for giggles lets assume they were off on the plotting of the map, or where the plane was east, or west. if you take the same calculations and put them further west the same distance away from V23. things start to make more sense. the plane now fly's over Woodland, and also goes completely around Portland....

Just Saying....

Somebody took Woodland seriously - there was a large search around Woodland! That is fact.

So, why do you think that Rataczak gave me two incompatible answers on the FP, Georger?

Do you think it might be intentional?

I do.

BTW: Himmelsbach told me that he and Bill Rataczak have become best friends in the aftermath of the Cooper case. In fact, Bill called Himms while I was chatting with Ralph in his living room.

Coincidence? I wonder if Mrs. Himms called Billy when I sat down on those lovely turquoise leather couches....

..just sayin'.

So, why do you think that Rataczak gave me two incompatible answers on the FP, Georger?

Do you think it might be intentional?

I do.

BTW: Himmelsbach told me that he and Bill Rataczak have become best friends in the aftermath of the Cooper case. In fact, Bill called Himms while I was chatting with Ralph in his living room.

Coincidence? I wonder if Mrs. Himms called Billy when I sat down on those lovely turquoise leather couches....

..just sayin'.

Yes. I am sure Rataczak is being selective in what he says to who -

I cant/wont comment on Anderson.

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So, why do you think that Rataczak gave me two incompatible answers on the FP, Georger?

Do you think it might be intentional?

I do.

BTW: Himmelsbach told me that he and Bill Rataczak have become best friends in the aftermath of the Cooper case. In fact, Bill called Himms while I was chatting with Ralph in his living room.

Coincidence? I wonder if Mrs. Himms called Billy when I sat down on those lovely turquoise leather couches....

..just sayin'.

Yes. I am sure Rataczak is being selective in what he says to who -

I cant/wont comment on Anderson.

Didn't Rataczak have a rather horrendous accident on his pushbike that included a sizable whack to his head? I don't mean to be unkind, but it may not have done much for his memory.

Yes. He was in grave condition for a long time, as I understand it. But he survived well after a long recovery.

Carpet warehouse and Cooper expert RobertMBlevins says:

RobertMBlevins
Sep 24, 2014, 4:02 PM
Post #55608 of 55611 (95 views)

Re: [mrshutter45] Trip to WA 2010 & Carr! [In reply to]    Quote:
'The FBI doesn't know where the map originated from. Carr even admits this...'

[Blevins reply]

"Most likely scenario is that it was created by Paul Soderlind and his team from NWA, using the available data from all the known sources. There is a picture out there on the internet somewhere (I may have it on one of our other computers still) that shows a similar map in the background. On a wall. It is one of the pictures taken during the Army search for Cooper."

Blevins has been repeating the same confusion for four+ years. ! 

So there you have it folks. This is where the FBI Map presented by Carr came from!  From Paul Soderlind and his team from NWA; date uncertain. And the Air Force was not involved! And, das photo Blevins is speaking of with the FBI (yellow) map in the background, he saw somewhere on the internet (I wonder where!), is attached below.  "It is one of the pictures taken during the Army search for Cooper." The FBI map Carr presented is clearly visble in the photo Blevins mentions - yepper! See it?   

BTW:
"Soderlind retired in 1973. He later became a consultant for Boeing, Embry-Riddle, the U.S. Air Force, and the Federal Aviation Administration, among others."

Actually I think Blevy might be right this time. I blew up this photo and believe that it's the path on the wall?

Those do not look like aeronautical charts to me.  The FBI maps, all of them, are aeronautical charts with plots on them.

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Actually I think Blevy might be right this time. I blew up this photo and believe that it's the path on the wall?

Those do not look like aeronautical charts to me.  The FBI maps, all of them, are aeronautical charts with plots on them.

It looks pretty damn close to me? I can make out what appears to be the flight path. anyone else?