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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3690 on: November 24, 2020, 02:40:24 PM »
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Unless someone can come up with a logical answer to the Hicks placard being from flight 305 I believe this is no longer evidence in this case?

Since I made the drop device for one of my drones I'm still going to drop both at the same time just to see how the two act in a free fall.
This is compelling stuff, Shutter. However, it does beg the question of a how a placard from a jetliner stairwell ended up in the woods under the V23. I guess what I am saying is:  if it didn't come from 305, where did it come from?

That's another hard question. kind of put Hicks under the microscope. to really put the whole thing to rest, we need the drawings showing EXACTLY where it goes. not one single photo can be found of this placard.

FJ could be right - he could be wrong. He has been right sometimes, and wrong other times. My stance is to withhold judgment pending better data.

How the money was prepared for Cooper is just one example. FJ has his version - others who talked to bank officials have their version. FJ never interviewed any of those people and yet FJ "knows" it had to be "his way" based on a few accounts he has found. There are other examples where FJ speculations have misfired over the years. The placard could be another example.  No single person is always right all of the time!
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3691 on: November 24, 2020, 02:43:00 PM »
Has nothing to do with FJ if you look? the panel is not there.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3692 on: November 24, 2020, 02:45:15 PM »
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Has nothing to do with FJ if you look? the panel is not there.

So the panel appears to not be there.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3693 on: November 24, 2020, 02:47:28 PM »
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Has nothing to do with FJ if you look? the panel is not there.

So the panel appears to not be there.

Correct. so why would 305 have a placard for a system not on the plane..
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3694 on: November 24, 2020, 02:49:08 PM »
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Has nothing to do with FJ if you look? the panel is not there.

So the panel appears to not be there.

Correct. so why would 305 have a placard for a system not on the plane..

Thats how it appears - at one point FJ thought the placard might be on the outside ?

Somehow Cooper got the stairs released and down ...

Tina might be able to explain it even today!
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3695 on: November 24, 2020, 02:51:34 PM »
I brought up the fact of the stairs being locked a while back. this wouldn't happen if Cooper used the emergency system. the stairs would be off the ground hanging. I just couldn't prove if 305 had the system or not. FJ had the same problem. this resolves the issue of it not having it..
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3696 on: November 24, 2020, 02:52:35 PM »
the stairs will release with the normal function. the emergency handle is for if the stairs are stuck or jammed and won't go down..
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3697 on: November 24, 2020, 02:54:19 PM »
the main release will lower the stairs. the wind stopped them from going all the way down. even with Cooper on them.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3698 on: November 24, 2020, 03:02:12 PM »
Even the drop test photo's show them on the stairs with the extra weight and the stairs are still not all the way down due to the wind. it's been thought for decades that Cooper used the emergency system to try and get them all the way down. this was because we all thought the placard was from 305. the photo is telling a different story.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3699 on: November 24, 2020, 03:07:50 PM »
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Even the drop test photo's show them on the stairs with the extra weight and the stairs are still not all the way down due to the wind. it's been thought for decades that Cooper used the emergency system to try and get them all the way down. this was because we all thought the placard was from 305. the photo is telling a different story.

In addition to that going back years - we have always known V23 was a well traveled route. All kinds of 727 versions flew that route plus other planes (types). V23 was right at the center of noise abatement complaints ... for years! So it was a well traveled path with many aircraft types using it.  People have always speculated (going back years) that the placard could have come for any 727... somehow it has been assumed it had to have come from Cooper's plane! All roads have been assumed to lead to Cooper as if the Cooper hijacking plane was the only plane to ever use V23 ! 
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3700 on: November 24, 2020, 03:12:52 PM »
to put this to rest we need actual documentation showing where that placard goes. the small pullout panel has directions on it. they might of made the larger one so it could be seen better, I don't know. we can't even find a photo of one installed?

worse case would be that Hicks fooled us all..
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3701 on: November 24, 2020, 03:14:35 PM »
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to put this to rest we need actual documentation showing where that placard goes. the small pullout panel has directions on it. they might of made the larger one so it could be seen better, I don't know. we can't even find a photo of one installed?

worse case would be that Hicks fooled us all..

All Hicks and his buddy did was find a placard from some plane.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3702 on: November 24, 2020, 03:17:55 PM »
Wouldn't be the first time someone fools the public...crop circles, bigfoot, UFO's etc. Hicks was alone when he found it..

It's odd that it sat in the same position for almost 8 years and didn't get covered. it's documented as heavy brush or forest?
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3703 on: November 24, 2020, 03:19:45 PM »
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Wouldn't be the first time someone fools the public...crop circles, bigfoot, UFO's etc.

It's odd that it sat in the same position for almost 8 years and didn't get covered. it's documented as heavy brush or forest?

The FOIA record is 89.9% chasing false leads that go nowhere. That includes all searches ... by everyone. 

Somewhere are unique tracks that are Cooper's track alone .... where and what! ?
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #3704 on: November 24, 2020, 03:21:08 PM »
False leads is all part of the game..
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