Norjak the Investigation of D B Cooper by Ralph P Himmelsbach ........ D. B. Cooper: Dead or Alive? [Tosaw, Richard T.
Eric: There is hardly one person doing the Cooper research who hasnt quoted from these two books at one time or another, including YOU, R99, Smith etal . . . ! In fact several people well known here have quoted from these books so many times it has become a ritual. These books are a major Cooper resource! People are going to use them and quote from them whether you like it or not! If your interviews of whomever begin to become the gold standard for Cooper research replacing the conventional repertoire, that will take time to establish. There is nothing you can do to change that.
When Ammerman writes his own book and speaks for himself maybe HIS book will become standard repertoire. In the meantime people are free to believe whomever they want! Cooperland is not a dictatorship being managed by anyone, for some managed result they hope to obtain !
GEORGER, I'm quite certain you recognize the difference between people discussing comments from various authors, versus declaring someone "wrong" based exclusively upon the writings of an author from a book that is seriously flawed. It's completely intellectually bankrupt.
This is precisely how bad information gets injected into the investigation. Not to mention, who gives a damn what agents of smear and trolls from another site have to say about anything? Let them throw sand in their own sand box. Why bring it here?
Cooper forums have no formal rules of procedure! There is very little in Cooperland that has followed strict rules of procedure, even in FBI 302's.
It used to drive me nuts at Dropzone when people shifted topics all the time. One thread would get started then somebody would interject a brand new topic - it was chaos at times and impossible to get people to stay on a particular topic. Shutter's forum has done slightly better partly because Shutter set up categories of topics and people for the most part post within those boundaries.
In the case of Ammerman, Ammerman should write his own book! That might be helpful. Otherwise you will wind up with a smorgasbord of people claiming Ammerman said that vs this etc. But again Eric, this is an informal affair. IT TAKES TIME TO ESTABLISH LEGITIMACY! You know that. There isnt anything anyone can do about that. If you have been at this for the ten years you claim maybe you should have surfaced and established yourself ten years ago, so today you would be a recognised entity in the Cooper Vortex? People come to Cooperland with agendae. You know that! It takes time to separate one from the other...
We did get Ammerman on film discussing some of these matters that will be part of the History Channel show when it airs which is now slated for the 4th quarter of this year.
I have seen the finished product and can say that a lot of the footage regarding his comments hit the cutting room floor. Nonetheless, he stated that the T-33 took off to the west from PDX, headed north over Sauvie Island, then was turned to the east and ultimately south in behind 305 close to the northern part of Sauvie Island (To be clear, the T-33 started its turn from over Sauvie Island).
Once behind 305--by the way, there was no visual contact--he recalls putting the T-33 on one heading alone as it trailed 305 south toward Eugene. Once they arrived at Eugene the T-33 and the F-106's were turned back around and headed home to their respective homes up north.
