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These transcripts are for communications with NWA offices over the ARINC radio link and not for communications with the Seattle ATC Center.

They may be the teletype version of those ARINC communications.  In any event, they were deleted from the teletype transcripts that Fred Poyner at WSHM had access to just as some transcripts with the Seattle ATC Center were also deleted.

So what! ?   Fred Poyner at WSHM was not even a party to the communications passing between parties for the purpose of a search, in 1971-72. And neither were you! I seriously doubt anyone in 1971-72 was anticipating or trying to satisfy a Fred Poyner at WSHM or an R99 demanding complete records and documentation ... in 2008-2019 for their own research project!

I see no evidence important evidence was being DELETED or WITHHELD from parties who needed that information to conduct a search, back in 1971-72. In fact there is a sharing of information complete with all the uncertainties, in order to frame an appropriate search for DB Cooper at the time.

The issue in 1971 was a complete and accurate transmission of facts and evidence between all the parties involved at the time in 1971-72, in order for the FBI to conduct a search for Cooper at the time. It looks like a historically accurate portrait of the evidence that was available at the time being shared between NWA and the FBI. If anything is missing it would be information being shared by the Air Force with these parties at the time.

Please specify what information you believe was being concealed at the time, and concealed from whom?  

Your demands for 'all the records' today is a completely separate matter.

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These transcripts are for communications with NWA offices over the ARINC radio link and not for communications with the Seattle ATC Center.

They may be the teletype version of those ARINC communications.  In any event, they were deleted from the teletype transcripts that Fred Poyner at WSHM had access to just as some transcripts with the Seattle ATC Center were also deleted.

So what! ?   Fred Poyner at WSHM was not even a party to the communications passing between parties for the purpose of a search, in 1971-72. And neither were you! I seriously doubt anyone in 1971-72 was anticipating or trying to satisfy a Fred Poyner at WSHM or an R99 demanding complete records and documentation ... in 2008-2019 for their own research project!

I see no evidence important evidence was being DELETED or WITHHELD from parties who needed that information to conduct a search, back in 1971-72. In fact there is a sharing of information complete with all the uncertainties, in order to frame an appropriate search for DB Cooper at the time.

The issue in 1971 was a complete and accurate transmission of facts and evidence between all the parties involved at the time in 1971-72, in order for the FBI to conduct a search for Cooper at the time. It looks like a historically accurate portrait of the evidence that was available at the time being shared between NWA and the FBI. If anything is missing it would be information being shared by the Air Force with these parties at the time.

Please specify what information you believe was being concealed at the time, and concealed from whom?  

Your demands for 'all the records' today is a completely separate matter.

Here we go again!  Georger, you simply don't know what you are talking about!  Apparently you don't need any information to arrive at your conclusions.  Like some politicians, you feel you know everything about everything even if you don't know which end of an airplane takes off first - and you don't!

Since you do not have any aeronautical knowledge or experience or any knowledge or experience about navigation, it is easy to understand why you would write "I see no evidence important evidence was being DELETED or WITHHELD from parties who needed that information to conduct a search, back in 1971-1972."  Hopefully, no such information was withheld from the searchers. 

But Cooper wasn't kidnapped by little green men from Mars.  Either he landed in one of the two drop zones that were searched or he didn't and there is absolutely no proof that he did.  The deletion of all information related to the flight path in the Portland area strongly suggests that whoever determined those drop zones got it wrong and deleted the information as a CYA gesture.

Neither Fred Poyner nor I am demanding "complete records"!  The total deleted records that would determine the flight path would probably be a lot less than 20 pages.

A reputable individual with any genuine scientific training knows the difference between "facts" and "wild eyed speculations".  Unfortunately, the facts don't support your conclusions.

Out of curiosity, would The Air Force, radar operators (close by) flight data recorder and pilot testimony fall under "wild eyed speculation"? can we define this a little better?

I just find it hard to believe none of the pilots said they flew a straight line which would be simple to tell? a pilot's license is not required for this. it's basically the opposite for evidence of another path vs the one they concluded. a common route doesn't say a mandatory route must be taken. we now see more transmissions from 305 but I don't see a reason to hide them.

Now, the last time I checked, Paul has more experience than anyone on this board, correct? I find it hard for someone of his expertise to wildly speculate anything nor would the Air Force. wouldn't it be wild speculation to tell the pilots where they were. how did they even find Reno?

The last time I checked the proper procedure for a theory is to dismiss the known evidence and showing the proof. I've heard for years the radar can't be trusted past Toledo and the red dots on the map represent bad returns, correct? then you believe Ammerman 50 years later in the very same area? can anyone say for sure 305 was not to report any location that would give away there position during the hijacking? I've also read it's possible that the FDR did not have minute marks on the foil. a document tends to disagree with that. are we really ready to say the FBI wasted a lot of time and money searching the wrong area due to Paul and the Air Forces speculation?