" "This material was deposited on the beach area of the FAZIO Brothers’ Farm between August 19 through the 25th, 1974, ‘and consisted of 91,100 cubic yards of fill.""

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" "This material was deposited on the beach area of the FAZIO Brothers’ Farm between August 19 through the 25th, 1974, ‘and consisted of 91,100 cubic yards of fill.""

Even that is a rectangle twenty feet high, a hundred feet wide and 1200' long.

These are huge operations.

Marty,

I am not interested in looking for things that simply support Sheridan Peterson as DBC. Indeed, I'm trying to establish the truth.

I have been VERY uncomfortable with the notion that nothing has been found in the FBI search area or anywhere along the flight path that I would expect to find--body, money, parachute, attache case. Moreover, the money find on Tena Bar and the placard find also made me question what the truth was. So I studied both.

I walked away with a mathematical analysis that indicates the placard separated from the jet 8 statute miles SW of the placard find. That analysis is what it is. I believe it is very accurate and have found absolutely no reason to consider it wrong. Talk from others about the placard separating from another 727 flying with its airstairs open is pure nonsense and taking deniability to an epic new level. Talk about winds coming from the SE that night is also not realistic given the data we have, and apparently the data the FBI used to craft the landing zone relative to their believed flight path.

The money on Tena Bar also is what it is. Paper currency can't bury itself, let alone for 6 years. We have high altitude pictures that show precisely where the dredge spoils were spread. This is impossible to refute. Tom Kaye's money find spot was about 150 feet from the edge of the spoils and about 260 feet from the actual money find spot. The distance from the actual money find spot to the edge of the dredge spoils is 400 feet. This is a fact based upon photographic evidence.

Additionally, there is a lot more to consider when looking at Tena Bar. Specifically, that fact that it is for all intents and purpose on an island. This greatly limits the possibilities of human arrival paths. Also, the spot where the jet would be located at 8:12 PM--certainly not upstream from Tena Bar. Plus, the fact that most of the Ridgefield National Wildlife Refuge is off-limits makes sense in terms of explaining why nothing has ever been found. Not to mention, the fact that Tina Mucklow said she saw Cooper putting a portion of the ransom in a reserve and what that would mean once DBC landed. Let's also not forget that at some point DBC realized he accidentally left his tie on the jet, I assume this was a matter of some concern to him. This realization affected how he proceeded. There is also the very strong indications that DBC intended to jump very near Seattle, meaning he landed in an area he didn't intend to land.

All of this has been considered at great length by me and has caused me to arrive at the belief that the western flight path is the most accurate version, and that human intervention was involved with burying the cash on Tena Bar, and that DBC survived. This really has nothing to do with Sheridan Peterson except to say that I consider Sheridan the most likely candidate for DBC based upon a separate stand-alone analysis of him.

My motivation is simple. I want the truth and to be able to prove it.

I'll tell you what GEORGER, pull up Tena Bar on Google Earth. You will notice one piece of land that is 437 in length that is directly west of Vancouver Lake and a few miles south of Tena  Bar. If it weren't for that 437 feet of land, Tena Bar would be on an island. The rest of the Tena Bar land mass is surrounded on all sides by 25 miles of the Columbia River, Lake River and Vancouver Lake.

Therefore, either DBC commuted up to Tena Bar via the 437 foot land bridge, swam across a river or lake, or landed on the "island" Tena Bar is located upon. Oh, I should mention, that there is one small bridge that crosses Lake River from Ridgefield leading into, you got it, the Ridgefield National Wildlife Refuge.

Cheers!

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Robert

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"It is my understanding that the money at Tina Bar was NOT found in the dredge layer."

It is my understanding the sand layer is still in dispute. Or maybe I'm misreading the 5,000 posts on the topic.

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"the golden cities were a myth but that the people who were searching for them had found a beautiful valley to search for their dreams."

That made me smile, thank you

Eric

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"Why do I need DBC to have landed anywhere near Tena Bar to be right about Sheridan Peterson? The answer is, I don't."

And this is why I am so bemused at your adamant support of a flight path that does nothing for your hypothesis.

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"Put three packets of cash on the beach and see how long it takes to self-bury. It will never happen."

265,000 cubic yards of dredge spoils suggests to me it doesn't need to self bury.

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" the dredge spreading stopped 400 feet short of the money find spot."

I thought it was 200ft? Regardless, the dredge piles extended far beyond the two bumps we see in those photos. Here's the math: 265,000 cubic yards divided evenly between two 50' radius piles... Perfect cylinders would be 50 feet high! According to my handy Pocket Reference, a 265' Diameter pile o'stuff that is 100 feet (!) tall contains 68,300 cubic yards of material. Two of these giant piles only gives up half the actual amount of spoils that were deposited on Tina Bar in '74.  A perfect rectangle, 100 feet wide and twenty feet deep, would have to span 1800 feet EVEN IF IT LOST HALF the total yardage of the spoils. I don't know what kind of distances we're actually talking about and I don't know enough about dredging to say how to calculate how much area was covered by this operation. But these operations are *huge* and there's plenty of material to get 400' away from that northern bump.

According to the Pocket Reference, the angle of repose for wet sand is 40 degrees. So, you're welcome to do your own math.

Anyway, thanks guys, I really do appreciate being here and talking the case with y'all.

Andrade,

Where did you get this 265,000 cubic yards number?  For comparison, the volume of Hoover Dam is 3,250,000 cubic yards.

The nominal water level of the Columbia River at Tina Bar is about 5 feet above sea level (ASL).  The highest land point in the immediate money find location at Tina Bar is only about 25 or 30 feet ASL.  In 2013, Dr. Meyer Louie and I were at Tina Bar and a local fisherman told us he had been there just about ever day for the past 50 years (he also had the key to the Tina Bar gate) and that he had never seen any flow from the river into the cow pond or vice-versa.  This means that the river water level was never more than about 25 feet ASL.

I would suggest that you divide you 265,000 cubic yards by about 1000 to get a realistic number.

Yikes. Remind me to never buy a home in a flood plain.

I've spoken with inland pilots who take big freighters up the Columbia and Sacramento Rivers. They tell me that the rivers are always changing and NOAA depth and channel charts can become inaccurate overnight in a flood.

377

I merely provided the data from the report. Take it or leave it!

This has all been discussed to death before.