I see Flyjacks point but if the FDR had a clock at the bottom they should of been able to match everything, including the bump. not sure what the bump would do to the plane.

gotta hit the sack...I'll check in the morning...

I thot 377 had already identified which FDR was on 305? I cant find it in my notes and the search engine at DZ is useless - turns up nothing! Flyjack now says the FDR may have been a model  .....

'I found the 727 had the flight recorder in the ventral stair cavity, the Fairchild Flight Data Recorder Model F-5424 was the one that kept coming up for the 727’s of that era in searches.. Seems to be the most common but no evidence that model was in NORJAK.. other models are similar. It could measure up to 5 parameters,, pressure altitude, indicated air speed, magnetic heading and vertical accelerations. These things do not have a timestamp, they sync with radio transmissions and use ground comms to create a timeline'

If Cooper bailed at 8:09 somewhere north of Ariel as now contended, what sense do these comms make?

20:05 PST   Pilot reports that he has tried twice to contact Cooper unsuccessfully, then he came on the PA system and said everything is OK.   Pilot   Comm. with Flt-Ops MSP

20:12 PST   Flt 305 advises they are getting some oscillations in the cabin, Cooper must be doing something with the stairs.   Pilot   Comm. with Flt-Ops MSP 

This puts oscillations and bump occurring AFTER a jump at 8:09?

Why wouldnt there be a LITTLE BOB or a BIG BOB for oscillations and bump whereas there is a LITTLE BOB for Cooper leaving the stairs ? Or did the 20:12 event actually happen at 8:09?

This is getting very complicated - again. 

I guess we can now wipe pieces of history off the monument! Hell I never could read hieroglyphics anyway! "Could see the lights of Vancouver coming up" turns out to be an straight out lie. In his next post Flyjack will eliminate the pilots and the crew ... and scores of others, from the DB Cooper Hijacking.  There must be a new 302 on that somewhere.  

Hi 377

any idea what this means?

microphone (radio) keying versus time

and your take on the photo below...

foil tape

Anybody have contact info for Sluggo that is up-to-date? If so, please let him know I would like contact. Thanks.

brucesmith At rainierconnect Dot com.

A certain member of this site (not me) has been in contact with Sluggo within the past month or so.  Post your reasons for wanting to contact Sluggo and perhaps that member might be willing to assist you.  But don't count on it for reasons that probably won't be posted here.

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What does I-5 have to do with the flight path?

Nothing, but the placard was found about 9.5 statute miles straight east of I-5.

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How did they get so far off as to not knowing the plane was 8 miles west?

Is this accurate?

What I mean is this. Does the controller watching the blip on the screen have anything on the screen that shows precisely where the blip is in relation to other landmarks.. in other words, if there was a satellite image of the ground below the blip super-imposed on the radar screen that would be a good guide. However, if the radar screen is just black with a blip on it how does the controller known precisely where the jet is in relation to certain things?

Also, wasn't this information, and subsequent flight path, super-imposed on a map after the fact? Perhaps in real time the controller didn't know precisely where the jet was relative to other locations so as to be able to judge if the jet was close to Tena Bar.

Your last sentence is correct.  It is unlikely that the controller's radar display included anything other than what appears on the IFR enroute charts.  That is, no topographical information such as is included on the aircraft VFR sectional charts would be on his screen.