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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1620 on: March 31, 2019, 06:46:01 PM »
This is not a new theory. Sluggo and Carr did it if I'm not mistaken. this is going by what Rat said in regards to Cooper jumping somewhere between 5-10 minutes after the last contact at 8:05. I believe the area was searched anyway? the grid I see from the photo is large and sectioned.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1621 on: March 31, 2019, 08:08:46 PM »
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Further review: If Cooper deployed he would have drifted how far, exactly? 3-5 miles to the northeast? Winds were approximately 30 mph at 10,000 feet? Yes? That would have put Cooper in the Hockinson area, far to the south of Amboy/Ariel, et. al.

Yes, is it true. I haven't a clue.
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« Reply #1622 on: March 31, 2019, 11:43:40 PM »
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Further review: If Cooper deployed he would have drifted how far, exactly? 3-5 miles to the northeast? Winds were approximately 30 mph at 10,000 feet? Yes? That would have put Cooper in the Hockinson area, far to the south of Amboy/Ariel, et. al.

Yes, is it true. I haven't a clue.

I think they thought Hockinson to Orchard. Sluggo wanted to investigate cemeteries in the Orchard area?

 
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1623 on: March 31, 2019, 11:48:24 PM »
The 8:15 location is just north of Orchard. I never really looked into this angle..
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« Reply #1624 on: March 31, 2019, 11:49:39 PM »
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So, Shut, are you saying that the Orchards, WA launch point is the furthest south 305 could have traveled under the current time frames?

Further review: If Cooper deployed he would have drifted how far, exactly? 3-5 miles to the northeast? Winds were approximately 30 mph at 10,000 feet? Yes? That would have put Cooper in the Hockinson area, far to the south of Amboy/Ariel, et. al.

I'll be calling Tom McDowell soon, to hear what he has to say about this development. He was the commander of the search team for the Clark County Sheriff's Department.

Could be time for a new tromp in the woods....

Sluggo said a number of things inr eply to Carr that were mysterious - one post he asked Carr if the Feds had a new search in the Orchard area! ... at first nobody picked up on this .... Carr replied 'cant talk here'. What's that add up to?

The next thing Sluggo surfaced with an interest in searching cemeteries in the Orchard area. !  Some at DZ ridiculed that idea... who knows what all of that adds up to except it was part of an overall attempt to push the jump time south by minutes. I have always thought that was one of the reasons the FBI and Carr even went public and opened this up for public discussion, especially on a jumper website with a bunch of technical people available!
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1625 on: March 31, 2019, 11:54:23 PM »
searching cemeteries for what reason. bodies, or names on stones, or the general area?
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« Reply #1626 on: March 31, 2019, 11:58:26 PM »
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searching cemeteries for what reason. bodies, or names on stones, or the general area?

Unclaimed bodies was what I recall. This is why several people ridiculed Sluggo at the time - he took it for a few days then had a negative reaction and didnt post for a while . 

Sluggo then asked Carr straight out: 'Have you and the FBI already searched this area or are you searching it now and cant talk about it?' That stunned everyone. Carr replied he couldnt talk about it and would get back, then he requested Sluggo to call him privately.
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« Reply #1627 on: April 01, 2019, 12:03:57 AM »
My guess is you could find out any unclaimed bodies by going to the county. they would have all bodies in the county? not sure on the time frame they keep bodies.
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« Reply #1628 on: April 01, 2019, 12:06:11 AM »
Let me post this map. Note the time and place 2012. It says oscillations began!

What does Cooper do if he's on the stairs and he hasnt jumped yet? There are two turns coming up - does he delay - what? Does he wait until the last turn and things stabilize at ... 2015? At this point he could wind up in the Columbia? 
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« Reply #1629 on: April 01, 2019, 12:07:24 AM »
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My guess is you could find out any unclaimed bodies by going to the county. they would have all bodies in the county? not sure on the time frame they keep bodies.

I never got to talk to Sluggo privately but he and Carr were talking privately --- who knows what was said.
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1630 on: April 01, 2019, 12:13:01 AM »
I've said it for years that it's possible they were trying to shake him up but the pilots have never made any claims of this. Rat made a comment of dumping him in the ocean. I would of said something if I did that. I don't know if it happened or not. they could roll left and right waving the wings soft enough to shake him up this way too. might cause him to come back in, I don't know...
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« Reply #1631 on: April 01, 2019, 12:16:47 AM »
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I've said it for years that it's possible they were trying to shake him up but the pilots have never made any claims of this. Rat made a comment of dumping him in the ocean. I would of said something if I did that. I don't know if it happened or not. they could roll left and right waving the wings soft enough to shake him up this way too. might cause him to come back in, I don't know...

Thats exactly what a lot of people think. And they waited until he was on the stairs and they knew it and they had a turn to make. Or they just turned to shake him off? Others doubt this because of the risk of his bomb going off.

I personally think he bailed in this time frame, one way or another. I think he always intended to jump close to Vancouver-Portland. If the Anderson interview is true then that is exactly what happened and when.
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« Reply #1632 on: April 01, 2019, 12:21:09 AM »
Just like everything else. it's a crap shoot. it might of worked and he splashed, or it never happened because Cooper might of came back in saying do that again and "I'll do the job" and then he could of already been gone......
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« Reply #1633 on: April 01, 2019, 12:23:09 AM »
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Just like everything else. it's a crap shoot. it might of worked and he splashed, or it never happened because Cooper might of came back in saying do that again and "I'll do the job" and then he could of already been gone......

Tina asked him specifically before she left what he was going to do with the bomb - the whole crew wanted to know. He said in effect he would disarm it when he left. 
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« Reply #1634 on: April 01, 2019, 12:24:17 AM »
I think he said he would disarm it or take it with him...
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