I trust that the following will help to refresh your memory. The discussion of "Strange Maps & Wandering VORTACs" was started by me with post #32349 on February 25, 2012. There were a number of posts on the subject and Farflung basically solved the "problem" in posts #32349 and #32350. Farflung included a comparison of two maps in post #32349 that perfectly illustrated what I was talking about and I told him the same thing in post #32363.
A number of other posts were made on the subject including your own post #32375 to me which I copy completely below:
"You're right. I'm looking at an '08 sectional from Sluggo's (which is slightly tilted) and I'm looking at the original flight path plot from the FBI. Maybe your '09 sectional doesn't show rivers and highways? I've reproduced bits of the two charts below. In each, the little circle represents Toutle location."
You attached two small bits of maps with the above post. However, to get a better idea of what actually changed in the mapping, you need a larger map of the area. Something including everything within about 10 or 15 miles of Toutle would clearly illustrate that, as I suggested in one post, the whole area seems to have been "expanded". Perhaps you could see this better on topographical charts.
On another subject, I thought all the "experts" worked on the Cooper case in 1971 and 1972. And here we are 42 years later. At this point, maybe only people who actually know what they are doing should be permitted to work on this matter.
Here's some more refresher:
The point of Farf's post 32349 was that the Toutle location was moved from point "d" which was the railroad station to point "c" which is the current location. He immediately added post 32350, the attachment of which made the same point. Nothing about map expansion in his post OR in the maps in his attachment. Unfortunately, he was not big on just getting to the point.
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"So it looks like the symbol for Toutle was wandering around between the two charts and not the PDX VORTAC.
Apparently as the charts were updated for the WGS84 coordinate system, the area around Toutle was changed (expanded?) more than other areas on the FBI map and that gave the visual impression, when considering nearby landmarks, that things hadn't changed at all. But the longitude and latitude changes seems to be the source of the discrepancy."
From this it was obvious that you still didn't get it. So Farf tried yet again. The attachment to his whimsical post was:
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LoginToutle moved. The maps in the figure showed no "expanded."
To this his last post on the topic you replied "Huh?" maybe because you didn't look at the illustration he attached to his post. You didn't even understand whose lack of reading comprehension he was referring to. He was good with those insults people didn't see. Farf posted no further on the topic, no doubt in realization that it was hopeless to try to explain it to you.
My post 32375 that you copied over was in response to your condescending post 32371.
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Georger and I each made another post and agreed on the idea that the solution was simply that the "Toutle" marker (circle) was moved because Toutle had grown and acquired a center of government. By this time you were hoping the topic would just go away.
I won't bother searching for your "expanded" because it's irrelevant.
No. If you have some thought to do what you might consider "work" on the matter, there's no reason you shouldn't go ahead and pursue it. Try to keep busy. Go searching for redacts.
You're on my ignore list. You have nothing worthwhile to say and I have better things to do.
