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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #150 on: October 11, 2015, 09:59:34 PM »
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The interview where Anderson stated that "they had not reached Portland proper but were definitely in the suburbs or immediate vicinity thereof", also sheds an interesting light on the Tina Bar money find and when the Cooper suspect exited the plane.  It strengthens the theory that Cooper landed in the water and did not survive the jump.

The unique nature of the terrain in the Tina Bar area, plus the probable flight path route, suggests that Cooper was a no-pull and died in the jump.  Otherwise, there are major problems in fitting the few known "facts" together in a meaningful manner.

Also, all of the above has been discussed at length previously on this forum and DZ.

So we should be looking for a missing person who fits the FBI's description of the Cooper suspect?
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #151 on: October 11, 2015, 11:22:35 PM »
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The interview where Anderson stated that "they had not reached Portland proper but were definitely in the suburbs or immediate vicinity thereof", also sheds an interesting light on the Tina Bar money find and when the Cooper suspect exited the plane.  It strengthens the theory that Cooper landed in the water and did not survive the jump.

The unique nature of the terrain in the Tina Bar area, plus the probable flight path route, suggests that Cooper was a no-pull and died in the jump.  Otherwise, there are major problems in fitting the few known "facts" together in a meaningful manner.

Also, all of the above has been discussed at length previously on this forum and DZ.

So we should be looking for a missing person who fits the FBI's description of the Cooper suspect?

Missing person or untouchable person? Yes I know Carr came to DZ on the premise somebody might remember something ... but he never really stressed "missing". All those shown hijacked once ... and maybe twice?
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #152 on: October 11, 2015, 11:25:08 PM »
Here's what Carr said about missing persons...

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One of the factors in the case that has not been resolved is the missing person aspect. It would stand to reason if DB Cooper went missing, someone would miss him. That does not seem to be the case here. It seems as if no one has missed him or did not realize their missing loved one was in fact DB Cooper. That means if DB died the night he jumped he most likely was a loner with few ties to anyone or anywhere.
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #153 on: October 11, 2015, 11:30:08 PM »
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Here's what Carr said about missing persons...

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One of the factors in the case that has not been resolved is the missing person aspect. It would stand to reason if DB Cooper went missing, someone would miss him. That does not seem to be the case here. It seems as if no one has missed him or did not realize their missing loved one was in fact DB Cooper. That means if DB died the night he jumped he most likely was a loner with few ties to anyone or anywhere.
Makes sense to me!
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #154 on: October 11, 2015, 11:33:12 PM »
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Here's what Carr said about missing persons...

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One of the factors in the case that has not been resolved is the missing person aspect. It would stand to reason if DB Cooper went missing, someone would miss him. That does not seem to be the case here. It seems as if no one has missed him or did not realize their missing loved one was in fact DB Cooper. That means if DB died the night he jumped he most likely was a loner with few ties to anyone or anywhere.

I take it as gospel that 'we' (those who have been with for years) know next to nothing about the total pool of suspects the FBI looked at, the FBI's criteria for looking at a person, etc etc etc. And that is a very important part of the DB Cooper case. Our efforts have almost entirely been restricted to looking at person brought to the social media by one person or another ...

The only exception to this rule I know of  is the comment Mitchell made to WSHM, that 'a larger percentage of the photos shown him were suspects in the Eugene area'. Beyond that what do we really know about how the FBI managed their search of suspects, what categories of suspects they looked at, etc etc etc? We know almost nothing?
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #155 on: October 11, 2015, 11:34:52 PM »
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Here's what Carr said about missing persons...

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One of the factors in the case that has not been resolved is the missing person aspect. It would stand to reason if DB Cooper went missing, someone would miss him. That does not seem to be the case here. It seems as if no one has missed him or did not realize their missing loved one was in fact DB Cooper. That means if DB died the night he jumped he most likely was a loner with few ties to anyone or anywhere.
Makes sense to me!

well Im glad Shutter posted his because that is what I was thinking Carr said (his stance on missing) but I couldnt think of a quote by Carr to back it up with ...
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #156 on: October 11, 2015, 11:42:57 PM »
I have the PDF from WSHS on Carr's posts at dropzone.....

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« Reply #157 on: October 11, 2015, 11:53:22 PM »
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I have the PDF from WSHS on Carr's posts at dropzone.....

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #158 on: October 14, 2015, 10:07:20 PM »
October 29th marks the 46th anniversary of Robert Richard Lepsy's disappearance.  Family and friends have not seen or heard from him since that day in 1969.  A few family members believe there is a possibility he was robbed and murdered the day he disappeared, which would be a horrible tragedy.  A few others believe he ran off to Mexico.  One thing is certain, and that is he never contacted any of his loved ones after he disappeared, which is out of character for someone described as a good and loving father. 
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #159 on: October 18, 2015, 10:38:18 AM »
There is very little we actually know about D.B. Cooper.  We have his physical description, and a few observations made by the eyewitnesses, like “no accent”, and “swarthy”.  But there is so much we don’t know, such as:

  • Where he’s from
  • What he did for a living
  • His level of skydiving experience
  • His motivation for the skyjacking

We seem to project who we think the skyjacker should be on the empty canvas known as D.B. Cooper.  I am guilty of doing this as much as anyone. 

One thing I refuse to do is say things like “I feel”, “my gut tells me” or “I believe with all my heart”, and I have a hard time taking suspect promoters who say these things seriously.  There is no proof that Dick Lepsy is D.B. Cooper, but there’s no proof that any of other so called suspects are either.  We just don’t have any proof.

One thing we do have is a gentleman that closely fits the physical description of the Cooper suspect, and hasn’t been seen since the skyjacking.  He was impulsive and adventurous enough to allegedly take money from his employer and run off to Mexico.   

Attached is a photo of Dick Lepsy at Glen’s Market circa 1966 or 67.  Lepsy is on the left.
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #160 on: October 18, 2015, 11:18:19 AM »
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There is very little we actually know about D.B. Cooper.  We have his physical description, and a few observations made by the eyewitnesses, like “no accent”, and “swarthy”.  But there is so much we don’t know, such as:

  • Where he’s from
  • What he did for a living
  • His level of skydiving experience
  • His motivation for the skyjacking

We seem to project who we think the skyjacker should be on the empty canvas known as D.B. Cooper.  I am guilty of doing this as much as anyone. 

One thing I refuse to do is say things like “I feel”, “my gut tells me” or “I believe with all my heart”, and I have a hard time taking suspect promoters who say these things seriously.  There is no proof that Dick Lepsy is D.B. Cooper, but there’s no proof that any of other so called suspects are either.  We just don’t have any proof.

One thing we do have is a gentleman that closely fits the physical description of the Cooper suspect, and hasn’t been seen since the skyjacking.  He was impulsive and adventurous enough to allegedly take money from his employer and run off to Mexico.   

Attached is a photo of Dick Lepsy at Glen’s Market circa 1966 or 67.  Lepsy is on the left.

It's really too bad that others that promote their suspects do not take the same approach as you and Vicki.
 

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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #161 on: October 20, 2015, 09:08:06 AM »
October 29th Marks the 46th anniversary of Dick Lepsy’s disappearance.  The photo below is of the Lepsy family during happier times.  Dick and Jackie lepsy are both around 27 years old in this photo.  Jackie never got over her husband’s disappearance.  She never dated or married again.  She also kept his clothes in her closet for 17 years, until her daughter convinced her to donate them to the Salvation Army.

In a quiet part of the Elmwood Cemetery, located across the street from the Grayling Army Airfield, in a small town in Northern Michigan, is a headstone with Dick and Jackie’s name inscribed on its face.  Underneath Dick’s name the grave is empty, because nobody knows what really happened to him.  His body could be in the woods of Northern Michigan, he could have been murdered in Mexico, or perhaps, his body could have ended up in the Columbia River on the evening of November 24th, 1971.

Think it’s a long shot?  Consider this.  Dick Lepsy closely matches the eyewitness descriptions of the Cooper suspect.  In 1969, Dick Lepsy allegedly took someone else’s money and used an aircraft to escape.  Lepsy has not been seen or heard from since the 1971 skyjacking.  Because of the unusual details of his disappearance, information concerning it was not made public until 2011. 

Thank you for your time.
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #162 on: October 20, 2015, 09:27:20 AM »
How did you find out he took a plane? is this new information. can you find out what kind of plane...
 

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« Reply #163 on: October 20, 2015, 09:01:17 PM »
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How did you find out he took a plane? is this new information. can you find out what kind of plane...
When Dick Lepsy disappeared, the store safe was found to be jammed shut.  A locksmith was called and the safe was opened, and it's contents audited.  $2000 appeared to be missing from the safe.  The Grayling Police Department and Michigan State Police were called and a joint investigation was launched.  After the discovery of Lepsy's car was reported, the police interviewed airport employees.  A man fitting Lepy's description flew out the day Lepsy disappeared and his final destination was Mexico.  He may have been traveling with a female, though that has not be verified.

Investigation records from both police departments have been purged and most people involved in the investigation have passed away.
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Re: Dick Lepsy (missing person)
« Reply #164 on: October 29, 2015, 09:33:40 AM »
46 years ago today, the man on the left in the photo below vanished from Grayling, Michigan.  His name was Dick Lepsy.  His car was found a few days later at the Cherry Capitol Airport, unlocked, keys in the ignition, with half a pack of cigarettes on the dash.  Dick Lepsy was never seen or heard from again.

Lepsy, a grocery store manager, was a married father of four and well-liked by coworkers, friends and neighbors.  Friends and family were shocked when he disappeared.  Over the years, theories have been put forth as to what happened to Lepsy.  Some believe he ran off to Mexico to start a new life, while others believe he was murdered and his car planted at the airport.

Two years after Lepsy disappeared, the D.B. Cooper skyjacking occurred.  The FBI believes the skyjacker did not survive the jump from the 727 and originally was looking for a suspect who was a missing person, from the Midwest, fitting the physical description given by stewardesses who spent hours with the skyjacker noting his appearance.  A composite sketch was created from these stewardesses descriptions by having them look through a book of facial features and picking the features they thought resembled the skyjackers.  This happened within a couple weeks of the skyjacking, while their memories were fresh.  Some eyewitnesses complained the composite sketch was “too thin” and mentioned the skyjacker had a “turkey gobbler” or double chin.

Below is a photo showing Dick Lepsy on the left, approximately four years before the skyjacking.  The photo below that compares Cooper composite sketch A (Left) with Dick Lepsy (Right).  Could it be? (Think McFly, think!)   :)
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