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Shutter · « **Reply #91 on:** March 25, 2021, 05:28:03 PM »

Looks more like the "Bat signal" than a tic tac...

Robert99 · « **Reply #92 on:** March 25, 2021, 08:35:40 PM »

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I know there was a question on another thread about selling tickets to CooperCon 2021.

There will be a ticket price attached to the two-day conference portion of CooperCon--not the social events each evening starting on Friday, November 19th. I believe it will be $20 for both days total. In other words, $20 gets you a ticket good for both days.

The tickets will be available online through Kiggins' website, I believe starting this week. Also, I'll be launching a website this week which will direct people to the Kiggins' ticket portal.

Tickets will also be available at the door as was the case in 2018, but I wouldn't recommend it. After all, I expect a full house this year given the significance of the 50-year anniversary and that there will be a significant amount of media attention focused on the event--I believe even from the UK and Australia.

This year's event is only the beginning. My plan is to grow this into an annual week-long festival every November that celebrates the legends of the Pacific Northwest including Big Foot and purported "Flying Saucer" activity in the region. That said, DBC will serve as the primary thrust of CooperCon going forward and is intended to provide an experience that is festive, fun and informative.

Fer gawds sake EU, don't bring the big foot and flying saucer nutcases into the Cooper investigation! Leave them in their own world. Big foot and flying saucers have been thoroughly investigated and proven false. This is not to say that there are some animals and fish that have never been identified or that all flying objects have been explained to the general public. But just leave the nutcases in their own world.
Nut cases? Like the Navy pilot that took the Tic Tac footage and the Phoenix Lights that were witnessed by thousands on March 13, 1997 in Phoenix? David Fraver is the Navy pilot. Due some research on the matter before you call them nut cases.

I don't know what the "Tic Tac footage" is that you are referring to. But if it is the footage recently released by the Navy, I think the jury is still out on that.

The case for the "Phoenix Lights" is open and shut. All you have to do is Goggle "AeroVirnoment" or check out their page on Wiki. Or if you are still a doubter, call AeroVirnoment in Simi Valley, California. Their number is in the book.

But the "Phoenix Lights" give every indication of being designed by Earthlings, operated by Earthlings, and having escaped from that reservation up in Nevada.
The Tic Tac objects in the Pacific, near San Diego and the one in the Atlantic that I cannot bring the name to mind right now, are from the USS Nimitz encounters. And not only were the small tick tac shaped objects on Navy radar, a "mother ship" is on Navy SONAR. And these things defied our laws of aerodynamics and physics, we nor the Russians have anything capable of suck manuevers. For the record, I am Catholic and a firm believer in God. And I also believe in science. Just to give you my background. Catch you later.

Nothing defies our laws of aerodynamics and physics! When in Rome you do as the Romans do. Any little green men from Mars, or anywhere else, are going to have to follow Earth physics when visiting our fair planet.

I may have seen some video of these Tic Tac objects. If I did, I was impressed by how the object stayed relatively in the same position with respect to the camera during some maneuvers. That is actually a bit difficult to do at high speeds and altitudes. The Navy Blue Angels and the USAF Thunderbirds are an exception to this rule.

Shutter · « **Reply #93 on:** March 25, 2021, 11:18:15 PM »

In a military report made public by KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, another crew member with 17 years of experience on similar cruisers would later observe that the objects “exhibited ballistic-missile characteristics” as they zoomed from 60,000 feet to 50 feet above the Pacific Ocean, alarmingly without producing sonic booms. All told, radar operators with the Princeton spent about two weeks attempting to figure out what the objects were, a process that included having the ship’s radar system shut down and recalibrated to make sure that the mysterious radar returns were not not false positives, or “ghost tracks.”

The footage appears to depict what Fravor had identified as a 40-foot-long, white, oblong shape (hence “Tic Tac”), hovering somewhere between 15,000 and 24,000 feet in midair and exhibiting no notable exhaust from conventional propulsion sources, even as it makes a surprising dart leftward in the video’s final moments. Of the three UFO incidents captured by U.S. Navy airmen via infrared gun-camera pods, Underwood’s footage remains unique for its lack of cross talk between the pilots — a fact that has led to some speculation about its authenticity. But “there wasn’t anything on it that was protected,

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Robert99 · « **Reply #94 on:** March 26, 2021, 12:09:24 AM »

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In a military report made public by KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, another crew member with 17 years of experience on similar cruisers would later observe that the objects “exhibited ballistic-missile characteristics” as they zoomed from 60,000 feet to 50 feet above the Pacific Ocean, alarmingly without producing sonic booms. All told, radar operators with the Princeton spent about two weeks attempting to figure out what the objects were, a process that included having the ship’s radar system shut down and recalibrated to make sure that the mysterious radar returns were not not false positives, or “ghost tracks.”

The footage appears to depict what Fravor had identified as a 40-foot-long, white, oblong shape (hence “Tic Tac”), hovering somewhere between 15,000 and 24,000 feet in midair and exhibiting no notable exhaust from conventional propulsion sources, even as it makes a surprising dart leftward in the video’s final moments. Of the three UFO incidents captured by U.S. Navy airmen via infrared gun-camera pods, Underwood’s footage remains unique for its lack of cross talk between the pilots — a fact that has led to some speculation about its authenticity. But “there wasn’t anything on it that was protected,

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Let me point out that the linked site gives inconsistent descriptions of what appears to be more than one object. I would like to see more information on this before making any speculations as to what they might be.

But for the record, birds have been seen at or very near the summit of Mount Everest which is 28,000 feet high above sea level. I have seen hawks and other birds as high as 10,000 feet above the surface. I have also seen newspaper pages and bugs up about 10,000 feet above the surface. I tried to snag a newspaper once several thousand feet above the surface, but the wing affected the flow field in front of it to the point that the paper would move out of the way and I couldn't contact it.

The descent, hover, and such things described in the link are not physically possible and there must be some other explanation.

Robert99 · « **Reply #95 on:** March 26, 2021, 12:20:01 AM »

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Note that the object is essentially stationary with respect to the camera. This is not the way things would happen in real life. I suspect there is a gremlin somewhere in the system. But if the pilot saw this object by just looking out the canopy at the same time it was being recorded, then that adds tremendous credibility to the story. If the pilot saw the object only thru his gun sight at the same time it was being filmed, then the problem is going to be somewhere in the system.

Shutter · « **Reply #96 on:** March 26, 2021, 03:16:06 AM »

Underwood said the object definitely wasn't a bird or a weather balloon, and since it was moving at a speed of about 138 mph, it was presumably too slow to be an aircraft. It also had no wings or heat, which ruled out the possibility of a cruise missile.

The DOD report said the object "possibly demonstrated the ability to 'cloak' or become invisible to the human eye" and might be able to "operate undersea completely undetectable by our most advanced sensors.

dudeman17 · « **Reply #97 on:** March 26, 2021, 04:59:01 AM »

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Note that the object is essentially stationary with respect to the camera. This is not the way things would happen in real life. I suspect there is a gremlin somewhere in the system. But if the pilot saw this object by just looking out the canopy at the same time it was being recorded, then that adds tremendous credibility to the story. If the pilot saw the object only thru his gun sight at the same time it was being filmed, then the problem is going to be somewhere in the system.

Um... The camera locks on to the object and tracks it automatically. You can literally watch that process happen in the very video you reposted.

DBfan57 · « **Reply #98 on:** March 26, 2021, 10:35:52 AM »

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I know there was a question on another thread about selling tickets to CooperCon 2021.

There will be a ticket price attached to the two-day conference portion of CooperCon--not the social events each evening starting on Friday, November 19th. I believe it will be $20 for both days total. In other words, $20 gets you a ticket good for both days.

The tickets will be available online through Kiggins' website, I believe starting this week. Also, I'll be launching a website this week which will direct people to the Kiggins' ticket portal.

Tickets will also be available at the door as was the case in 2018, but I wouldn't recommend it. After all, I expect a full house this year given the significance of the 50-year anniversary and that there will be a significant amount of media attention focused on the event--I believe even from the UK and Australia.

This year's event is only the beginning. My plan is to grow this into an annual week-long festival every November that celebrates the legends of the Pacific Northwest including Big Foot and purported "Flying Saucer" activity in the region. That said, DBC will serve as the primary thrust of CooperCon going forward and is intended to provide an experience that is festive, fun and informative.

Fer gawds sake EU, don't bring the big foot and flying saucer nutcases into the Cooper investigation! Leave them in their own world. Big foot and flying saucers have been thoroughly investigated and proven false. This is not to say that there are some animals and fish that have never been identified or that all flying objects have been explained to the general public. But just leave the nutcases in their own world.
Nut cases? Like the Navy pilot that took the Tic Tac footage and the Phoenix Lights that were witnessed by thousands on March 13, 1997 in Phoenix? David Fraver is the Navy pilot. Due some research on the matter before you call them nut cases.

I don't know what the "Tic Tac footage" is that you are referring to. But if it is the footage recently released by the Navy, I think the jury is still out on that.

The case for the "Phoenix Lights" is open and shut. All you have to do is Goggle "AeroVirnoment" or check out their page on Wiki. Or if you are still a doubter, call AeroVirnoment in Simi Valley, California. Their number is in the book.

But the "Phoenix Lights" give every indication of being designed by Earthlings, operated by Earthlings, and having escaped from that reservation up in Nevada.

The other event and object i meant to mention was the Gimble object, spotted by the Navy in the Atlantic. That is the one with the mother ship they recorded on Sonar to my memory? And I disagree with you on the Phoenix lights being open and shut. The tic tac and gimble objects you will not be able to shoot down.

Shutter · « **Reply #99 on:** March 26, 2021, 10:52:13 AM »

They have shown up at missile sites as well. 1967 they shutdown 10 ICBM's to a "no-go" status..all becoming inoperable.

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I remember another one in England if not mistaken just outside a military base. tape recordings of the incident can be found online.

Shutter · « **Reply #100 on:** March 26, 2021, 11:01:21 AM »

Throughout history, unexplained aerial phenomena (UAPs) have shocked, frightened and fascinated sky watchers. And in the last century, more than a few have been reported in military contexts. In late World War II, U.S. airmen called them “foo fighters”: strange orange flying lights by the French-German border. During the Korean War, some soldiers claimed a blue-green light emitting “pulsing rays” made their whole battalion sick with what, to some, resembled radiation poisoning.

Less known: In the last 75 years, high-ranking U.S. military and intelligence personnel have also reported UAPs near sites associated with nuclear power, weaponry and technology—from the early atomic-bomb development and test sites to active nuclear naval fleets.

Robert99 · « **Reply #101 on:** March 26, 2021, 02:02:01 PM »

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Note that the object is essentially stationary with respect to the camera. This is not the way things would happen in real life. I suspect there is a gremlin somewhere in the system. But if the pilot saw this object by just looking out the canopy at the same time it was being recorded, then that adds tremendous credibility to the story. If the pilot saw the object only thru his gun sight at the same time it was being filmed, then the problem is going to be somewhere in the system.

Um... The camera locks on to the object and tracks it automatically. You can literally watch that process happen in the very video you reposted.

Did the pilot see the same thing and if so was he looking at it through his gun sight or out the cockpit window?

Robert99 · « **Reply #102 on:** March 26, 2021, 02:12:43 PM »

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I know there was a question on another thread about selling tickets to CooperCon 2021.

There will be a ticket price attached to the two-day conference portion of CooperCon--not the social events each evening starting on Friday, November 19th. I believe it will be $20 for both days total. In other words, $20 gets you a ticket good for both days.

The tickets will be available online through Kiggins' website, I believe starting this week. Also, I'll be launching a website this week which will direct people to the Kiggins' ticket portal.

Tickets will also be available at the door as was the case in 2018, but I wouldn't recommend it. After all, I expect a full house this year given the significance of the 50-year anniversary and that there will be a significant amount of media attention focused on the event--I believe even from the UK and Australia.

This year's event is only the beginning. My plan is to grow this into an annual week-long festival every November that celebrates the legends of the Pacific Northwest including Big Foot and purported "Flying Saucer" activity in the region. That said, DBC will serve as the primary thrust of CooperCon going forward and is intended to provide an experience that is festive, fun and informative.

Fer gawds sake EU, don't bring the big foot and flying saucer nutcases into the Cooper investigation! Leave them in their own world. Big foot and flying saucers have been thoroughly investigated and proven false. This is not to say that there are some animals and fish that have never been identified or that all flying objects have been explained to the general public. But just leave the nutcases in their own world.
Nut cases? Like the Navy pilot that took the Tic Tac footage and the Phoenix Lights that were witnessed by thousands on March 13, 1997 in Phoenix? David Fraver is the Navy pilot. Due some research on the matter before you call them nut cases.

I don't know what the "Tic Tac footage" is that you are referring to. But if it is the footage recently released by the Navy, I think the jury is still out on that.

The case for the "Phoenix Lights" is open and shut. All you have to do is Goggle "AeroVirnoment" or check out their page on Wiki. Or if you are still a doubter, call AeroVirnoment in Simi Valley, California. Their number is in the book.

But the "Phoenix Lights" give every indication of being designed by Earthlings, operated by Earthlings, and having escaped from that reservation up in Nevada.
The other event and object i meant to mention was the Gimble object, spotted by the Navy in the Atlantic. That is the one with the mother ship they recorded on Sonar to my memory? And I disagree with you on the Phoenix lights being open and shut. The tic tac and gimble objects you will not be able to shoot down.

Admittedly, you can't shoot down something that is not a physical object or that is not there in the first place. Some of these incidents are being pushed by known "UFO" believers, advocates, and speculators.

There is every indication that the Phoenix Lights were a physical object of known origin as I have explained previously. You need to read the Wiki page for the company I have previously mentioned and see what they were doing and who they were doing it for in that same time frame.

For the UFO believers, get a good night's sleep. The world will look better tomorrow.

Shutter · « **Reply #103 on:** March 26, 2021, 02:26:41 PM »

A former U.S. Navy fighter pilot spoke this month about what he says was an encounter with a “Tic Tac”-shaped UFO and believes the flying object committed an “act of war.”

Retired Cmdr. David Fravor recalled the strange encounter off San Diego 16 years ago in a Sept. 8 podcast with MIT research scientist Lex Fridman.

Fravor says he was dispatched to investigate radar anomalies and later described what he saw as "like nothing I've ever seen" – a Tic Tac-shaped object able to turn on a dime and make itself invisible to radar, New Zealand’s TV Channel 3 reported.

"This is not like, 'we saw it and it was gone', or 'I saw lights in the sky and it's gone' – we watched this thing on a crystal clear day with four trained observers," Fravor said."

"The radar is smart enough that when the signal comes back if it's been messed with, it will tell you – it will give you indications that it's being jammed... It's being jammed into about every mode you can see... You can tell it's being jammed,” he said.

"When you actively jam another platform, that's technically an act of war," Fravor told Fridman.

Fridman called Fravor "one of the most credible witnesses" in the history of UFO research.

Complete nutcase?

Shutter · « **Reply #104 on:** March 26, 2021, 02:50:05 PM »

The pilot spoke at a conference saying it had been going on for 10 weeks. the objects would go from 60,000 to 20,000 sitting there for 3 hours. they were tracked sitting and moving at a high rate of speed. Fravor states he didn't want to talk about "little green men" but believes there is a lot out there that we don't know about.

Tossing everyone into the same bowl is not going to make it false or give the excuse of a flare or a high altitude flyover..

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