Where's the UFO topic going, Shut?
To me, the argument over whether UFOs are real or not was over a long time ago. I think the real question is two-fold: why do non-believers believe that way, and secondly, what are we UFO believers gonna do about it.
I've come to learn in my 71 years on this planet that people believe what they do because they really need to believe it. Folks may become irksome while doing their believing, but that doesn't really diminish their need.
For me, the UFO believers are divided into two groups: The Tech Guys who investigate the sightings, crashes, close encounters, etc. The Second Group are my people - the abductees.
For those of us who have seen an UFO or been abducted, the argument over "realness" is ridiculous. We know what we saw. We know what happened. We know most folks don't believe us. So, we become selective on who, when and where we share. When people call us crazy we simply walk away. It's the only polite thing to do, really.
So, when the CC22 shifts into PNW Weirdness, I hope we don't get hung up on arguing on the realness of UFOs, Aliens, Biggie, etc., but rather on who saw what and when, and what it all means to us. There lies the true mystery and the utter wonderment of life.