All believable evidence supports Cooper having jumped just south (upstream) of the money find location at Tina Bar and probably over the Columbia River itself, or within a very few feet of it.

But the fact that the money find location was actually HIGHER than the Columbia River's water level on the evening of November 24, 1971, by itself, proves that Cooper did not land in the river proper.  If he had landed in the river, he would probably have retained enough floatation capability to have drifted downstream (north) of Tina Bar before daybreak.

The above indicates that Cooper landed on solid ground, but within a very few feet of the river, that was a number of feet HIGHER than the point where the money was eventually found at Tina Bar.

The unique nature of the terrain in the Tina Bar area, plus the probable flight path route, suggests that Cooper was a no-pull and died in the jump.  Otherwise, there are major problems in fitting the few known "facts" together in a meaningful manner.

Also, all of the above has been discussed at length previously on this forum and DZ.

I would think it's possible he lost the money, and survived. so many options to look at...

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All believable evidence supports Cooper having jumped just south (upstream) of the money find location at Tina Bar and probably over the Columbia River itself, or within a very few feet of it.

But the fact that the money find location was actually HIGHER than the Columbia River's water level on the evening of November 24, 1971, by itself, proves that Cooper did not land in the river proper.  If he had landed in the river, he would probably have retained enough floatation capability to have drifted downstream (north) of Tina Bar before daybreak.

The above indicates that Cooper landed on solid ground, but within a very few feet of the river, that was a number of feet HIGHER than the point where the money was eventually found at Tina Bar.

The unique nature of the terrain in the Tina Bar area, plus the probable flight path route, suggests that Cooper was a no-pull and died in the jump.  Otherwise, there are major problems in fitting the few known "facts" together in a meaningful manner.

Also, all of the above has been discussed at length previously on this forum and DZ.

I would think it's possible he lost the money, and survived. so many options to look at...

Possible, but probable?  After 40 plus years, you think if he would have survived, there would be some type of tangible evidence, a twenty, a green paper bag, etc.  Anything?  Nothing. 

I think Robert99 agree on the "what", which is the Cooper suspect probably did not survive the jump, but disagree on the "how".  I think it's possible the money was deposited by the dredge and the "experts" got it wrong.  The "How" really isn't as important as "What".

Some areas of the Columbia River adjacent to Tina Bar were dredged in the 1970s.  The money was found in mid-February 1980.  Within two or three months after that, Mt. St. Helens blew it stack and deposited the top of that mountain over the upper portion of the Columbia River and its tributaries all the way into Canada.

In due time, that abrasive ash worked its way downstream and damaged power turbines on various dams during its trip to the Pacific.  There was also so much of that ash in the Columbia that shipping had to be stopped for several months between Bonneville Dam and the ocean.  The Columbia shipping channel was dredged again to clear up that mess.

So after having been dredged twice, I would expect more of Cooper to have turned up if he was at the bottom of the shipping channel for several years.

Also, I think some technical arguments can be made that Cooper and the money bag stayed together all the way down.  But it would be really nice to have precise information on the flight path to help with that argument.

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Also, all of the above has been discussed at length previously on this forum and DZ.

Some of us like talking about it? Also, some of us weren't on the DZ forum and have no intention of reading 30,000 posts by Blevins y Jo.

As smokin99 always says...."what hasn't been discussed with 20,000 + posts" 

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Also, all of the above has been discussed at length previously on this forum and DZ.

Some of us like talking about it? Also, some of us weren't on the DZ forum and have no intention of reading 30,000 posts by Blevins y Jo.

Yeah, I'm really getting sick of that snarky comment.

I'm sure we all agree that after about the 30th go-around discussing the same minor point, some people lose a bit of their zeal for discussing it a 31st time.

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Also, all of the above has been discussed at length previously on this forum and DZ.

Some of us like talking about it? Also, some of us weren't on the DZ forum and have no intention of reading 30,000 posts by Blevins y Jo.

Yeah, I'm really getting sick of that snarky comment.

I'm sure we all agree that after about the 30th go-around discussing the same minor point, some people lose a bit of their zeal for discussing it a 31st time.

The big problem is this information has not been put into a digestible format that's properly archived, retrievable and useful to others who weren't on DZ.

Found the Geology Dept tribute to Dr. Palmer, in case anyone was interested:

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Lead on an ATC?

What do you mean.....