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Robert99

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #795 on: June 07, 2015, 02:19:50 PM »
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Hello everyone  iam new here and have been fascinated with this story for a long time. :)

Do you all think that anybody knows Cooper's identity? On the one hand, you would think Cooper would want ot tell someone about his masterplan, yet on the other, after all these years nobody has been able to demonstrably prove themselves to have a real connection to Cooper.

For starters, you can safely assume that Cooper is not one of the "suspects" that have been mentioned on the Internet (including this site and the now locked Dropzone threads) by people pushing various candidates.  Reportedly, the number of people now approaches 1000 who have claimed to the FBI that they were Cooper.

The FBI may, or may not, have a short list of actual Cooper suspects.  If they do have such a list, they will never release a name until Cooper is behind bars.

And there is the very real possibility that Cooper died in the parachute jump.

Further, a wee bit of additional information related to the hijacking has recently been released by a government agency.  There is a possibility that a substantial amount of additional information will be released by another government agency in the immediate future.  If that happens, then there is a very real possibility that some factual conclusions can be reached about Cooper's fate, etc..

Stay tuned.

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #796 on: June 07, 2015, 04:42:26 PM »
Hey Robert99,

But you might think he would let a friend/family know what he planned to do beforehand. So even if he died in the jump someone would still be able to identitify him.

Also, the Citizen Sleuth website mentioned that a missing persons report was not made around the time of Cooper's disappearance. I do not know how true that is but the website seems pretty reliable.

What is this goverment agency you speak of?! Are we talking US goverment agency? What info. was released and what further info might we expect?

Cheers.


 

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« Reply #797 on: June 07, 2015, 04:48:03 PM »
Yeah, R Nine-Nine, what is this about a Norjak news cache coming from a gov't agency???

Please tell us more.
 

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« Reply #798 on: June 07, 2015, 05:02:17 PM »
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Hey Robert99,

But you might think he would let a friend/family know what he planned to do beforehand. So even if he died in the jump someone would still be able to identitify him.

Also, the Citizen Sleuth website mentioned that a missing persons report was not made around the time of Cooper's disappearance. I do not know how true that is but the website seems pretty reliable.

What is this goverment agency you speak of?! Are we talking US goverment agency? What info. was released and what further info might we expect?

Cheers.

KOG and BAS, you are just going to have to be patient for a while longer.  I'm not talking about missing person reports.

KOG, considering your screen name, do you have any "influence" with the Powers That Be?  And considering BAS's interest in "remote viewing", perhaps you two can solve the Cooper before today is over.

Robert99
 

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« Reply #799 on: June 07, 2015, 05:30:54 PM »
Sorry, R Nine-Nine, can't solve the case today. First, I have to call my sister and see how her kid is after a stint in rehab. Then I have to solve the Earl Cossey case, as per 377's request.
 

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« Reply #800 on: June 08, 2015, 08:47:14 AM »
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Hello everyone  iam new here and have been fascinated with this story for a long time. :)

Do you all think that anybody knows Cooper's identity? On the one hand, you would think Cooper would want ot tell someone about his masterplan, yet on the other, after all these years nobody has been able to demonstrably prove themselves to have a real connection to Cooper.
People here are divided into two groups:  "Cooper survived the jump", and "Cooper did not survive the jump".  At this point (over 40 years after the incident) I seriously doubt there is any evidence out there that would attach any suspect to the crime.  That leaves us with the FBI's description of the Cooper suspect:
6' tall
180 pounds
Black hair, brown eyes
In his forties

You could count the number of missing persons from the U.S. and Canada who fit the description on one hand.  There are a few "survived the jump" suspects who come close to the description, but after studying a dozen of them or so, you'll find similarities that make these suspects less likely.

What it comes down to is the FBI holds the key to dismissing suspects and finally finding "The One".  The problem is, the FBI isn't interested in this case at this point and unless someone can produce one of the ransom bills, this case will remain in limbo.
"If you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always got." - Henry Ford
 

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« Reply #801 on: June 08, 2015, 10:00:54 AM »
Just com.pleted an experiment in making home made Cosmetic Brown Contact Lens (see attachment). Cooper could have bought them to disguise his eyes to look brown or he could have made them at little cost. Blank no-perscription clear were available in the early 70's for people to try to wear contacts at little or no cost per Jim the son of Erickson Labs that made contacts in Seattle in those days.
However, homemade would have been possible too.

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I used a glass ball the size of a Q ball for the experiment
 

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« Reply #802 on: June 08, 2015, 03:05:55 PM »
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Hello everyone  iam new here and have been fascinated with this story for a long time. :)

Do you all think that anybody knows Cooper's identity? On the one hand, you would think Cooper would want ot tell someone about his masterplan, yet on the other, after all these years nobody has been able to demonstrably prove themselves to have a real connection to Cooper.
People here are divided into two groups:  "Cooper survived the jump", and "Cooper did not survive the jump".  At this point (over 40 years after the incident) I seriously doubt there is any evidence out there that would attach any suspect to the crime.  That leaves us with the FBI's description of the Cooper suspect:
6' tall
180 pounds
Black hair, brown eyes
In his forties

You could count the number of missing persons from the U.S. and Canada who fit the description on one hand.  There are a few "survived the jump" suspects who come close to the description, but after studying a dozen of them or so, you'll find similarities that make these suspects less likely.

What it comes down to is the FBI holds the key to dismissing suspects and finally finding "The One".  The problem is, the FBI isn't interested in this case at this point and unless someone can produce one of the ransom bills, this case will remain in limbo.

Or, you could skip all of the above and open a buffalo ranch, give them instructions on locating Cooper, and let them roam!  :)

This "we" you keep talking about is "you", or who?

I am anxious to hear what the buffalo think?

I think from this pint on I am going to refer to myself as WE, us, they and them, all those, the majority, Americans (wanna know), and the mainstream tribe or clan or nation represented by - ME! I am that I am! I am ALL!  ;D

As in: WE know WHO Cooper was! WE all agree it was him. WE have the proof and none can deny what WE have.
WE are all there is!  :)
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« Reply #803 on: June 08, 2015, 05:16:34 PM »
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...The problem is, the FBI isn't interested in this case at this point...

Why do you say that, Nimi Wrecks?
 

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« Reply #804 on: June 08, 2015, 08:41:16 PM »
I found this on DZ about the sketches in case people were wondering about why they changed the original sketch...

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I was reading up on the sketches today, it was just a summary, I'll have to find the file to get more detail. Basically, Schaffner looked at the first sketch and did not think it was a quality depiction, she suggested several changes. Mucklow and Hancock felt the first draft sketch did resemble Cooper but each suggested several changes.

The changes were made and all three agreed the final sketch looked like Cooper.

I think when you weigh each person's words it comes down to tolerances. Each changed the first draft, so each found that the draft was lacking. Perhaps Schaffner's tolerance for detail is more exacting than Mucklow and Hancock. So it's not that the sketches are so far off or people's memories of Cooper are way off. In fact, Schaffner didn't factually change the sketch, she just sharpened it, as did Mucklow and Hancock.
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« Reply #805 on: June 08, 2015, 10:11:30 PM »
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...The problem is, the FBI isn't interested in this case at this point...

Why do you say that, Nimi Wrecks?


I don't think it's a lack of interest. it's probably a priority issue?

From the FBI's website....

"It’s a mystery, frankly. We’ve run down thousands of leads and considered all sorts of scenarios. And amateur sleuths have put forward plenty of their own theories. Yet the case remains unsolved.

Would we still like to get our man? Absolutely. And we have reignited the case—thanks to a Seattle case agent named Larry Carr and new technologies like DNA testing.

You can help. We’re providing here, for the first time, a series of pictures and information on the case. Please look it all over carefully to see if it triggers a memory or if you can provide any useful information."

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« Reply #806 on: June 08, 2015, 11:27:18 PM »
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...The problem is, the FBI isn't interested in this case at this point...

Why do you say that, Nimi Wrecks?


I don't think it's a lack of interest. it's probably a priority issue?

From the FBI's website....

"It’s a mystery, frankly. We’ve run down thousands of leads and considered all sorts of scenarios. And amateur sleuths have put forward plenty of their own theories. Yet the case remains unsolved.

Would we still like to get our man? Absolutely. And we have reignited the case—thanks to a Seattle case agent named Larry Carr and new technologies like DNA testing.

You can help. We’re providing here, for the first time, a series of pictures and information on the case. Please look it all over carefully to see if it triggers a memory or if you can provide any useful information."

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Note the date _ 2007. It is now 2013?

 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #807 on: June 09, 2015, 04:35:12 AM »
I'm taking a longer view of the FBI - the arc of their historical perspectives.

If the FBI had a "lack of interest," then their behaviors would be different. We would not have had a Marla Cooper or Al Di, and we don't know the current status of Idla, either. Yes, that's circa 2011 and not 2015, but Jimmy and Jake will responded promptly to Sail's walk-in a year or so ago.

In my bones I feel the case is still active because the case is so locked tight. No one is talking, nothing is happening with the Cossey homicide, etc.
 

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« Reply #808 on: June 09, 2015, 10:03:00 AM »
Robert 99  You say: "For starters, you can safely assume that Cooper is not one of the "suspects" that have been mentioned on the Internet (including this site and the now locked Dropzone threads) by people pushing various candidates.  Reportedly, the number of people now approaches 1000 who have claimed to the FBI that they were Cooper.

 I say:  "You are a great NAY SAYER but don't provide much to help solve the crime. Where is your proof? Sheridan is my best suspect and he fits the crime."

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« Reply #809 on: June 09, 2015, 04:08:49 PM »
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Robert 99  You say: "For starters, you can safely assume that Cooper is not one of the "suspects" that have been mentioned on the Internet (including this site and the now locked Dropzone threads) by people pushing various candidates.  Reportedly, the number of people now approaches 1000 who have claimed to the FBI that they were Cooper.

 I say:  "You are a great NAY SAYER but don't provide much to help solve the crime. Where is your proof? Sheridan is my best suspect and he fits the crime."

Bob Sailshaw

Nonsense. R99 doesn't determine the outcome of your candidate Peterson - the FBI does. Get a grip not a gripe!
Your frustrations would better be taken up with the FBI? 
 
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