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50% Cooper lived
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georger

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #765 on: May 30, 2015, 03:14:28 PM »
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Paul made another video....




It has become 10000% apparent that only people from the State of Washington, not to be confused with the City named "Washington", can solve the DB Cooper case, and the crazier you are the better! Whether you are inside or outside the FBI does not matter. Washington - Crazy as a Loon - Vector 23!

Vector-23 to all.   

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #766 on: May 30, 2015, 05:33:10 PM »
I had to turn off Paul's video about halfway. He was giving me such a headache....so much wrong information said so authoritatively. Ug.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #767 on: May 30, 2015, 06:47:52 PM »
Conair Trails


That plane could be miles away from where he thinks it's at. V23 is a low altitude route, or World-Lo
Kenny Kenny, Kenny....
Ralph's map?
Paradise Park....Blevins


Speaking of Blevins, he now approves of Pauls video's  :D :D :D :D

They deserve each other.....
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #768 on: May 31, 2015, 10:08:31 AM »
Shutter    Why do we even mention Kenney here? The FBI eliminated him on being too short at 5ft 8in

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #769 on: June 01, 2015, 08:15:54 AM »
I don't think anyone is actually "eliminated" in an open case.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #770 on: June 01, 2015, 09:52:00 AM »
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I don't think anyone is actually "eliminated" in an open case.
I'm not sure if this is a case of semantic arguing, but the FBI's official website (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) states:

"And what of some of the names pegged as Cooper? None have panned out. Duane Weber, who claimed to be Cooper on his deathbed, was ruled out by DNA testing (we lifted a DNA sample from Cooper’s tie in 2001). Kenneth Christiansen, named in a recent magazine article, didn’t match the physical description and was a skilled paratrooper. Richard McCoy, who died in 1974, also didn’t match the description and was at home the day after the hijacking having Thanksgiving dinner with his family in Utah, an unlikely scenario unless he had help"



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« Reply #771 on: June 01, 2015, 10:13:32 AM »
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I don't think anyone is actually "eliminated" in an open case.
I'm not sure if this is a case of semantic arguing, but the FBI's official website (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) states:

"And what of some of the names pegged as Cooper? None have panned out. Duane Weber, who claimed to be Cooper on his deathbed, was ruled out by DNA testing (we lifted a DNA sample from Cooper’s tie in 2001). Kenneth Christiansen, named in a recent magazine article, didn’t match the physical description and was a skilled paratrooper. Richard McCoy, who died in 1974, also didn’t match the description and was at home the day after the hijacking having Thanksgiving dinner with his family in Utah, an unlikely scenario unless he had help"



Perhaps I should have said they wouldn't eliminate anyone unless they had proof. it appears they believe the DNA is a solid piece of evidence to eliminate a suspect? (Duane Weber) they seem to trust the physical description (KC) and McCoy has family members vouch.

It makes one wonder about what DNA they really have? Kenny doesn't fit the description, so they feel nothing will turn this over. pictures of McCoy were shown to the crew. they stated he wasn't Cooper.

Sorry Sailshaw, but all the suspects should be mentioned, no matter the findings. In my opinion, I think several of these people speaking about Kenny are deceptive. I find it strange that none of them come forward on there own to help solve one of America's greatest unsolved mysteries. some have already been proven deceptive. I also believe Robert Blevins started the story surrounding the FBI taking DNA from Lyle. it circles back to Robert. I also believe he takes a lot of his finding completely out of context. the money found on the property is a myth as well.

Sailshaw, Vicki, NMIwrecks, all seem to put the story out there for people to take a look at, and not try and match everything in the case to the suspect, or cram it down people throats with tons of speculation.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #772 on: June 01, 2015, 03:05:25 PM »
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I don't think anyone is actually "eliminated" in an open case.
I'm not sure if this is a case of semantic arguing, but the FBI's official website (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) states:

"And what of some of the names pegged as Cooper? None have panned out. Duane Weber, who claimed to be Cooper on his deathbed, was ruled out by DNA testing (we lifted a DNA sample from Cooper’s tie in 2001). Kenneth Christiansen, named in a recent magazine article, didn’t match the physical description and was a skilled paratrooper. Richard McCoy, who died in 1974, also didn’t match the description and was at home the day after the hijacking having Thanksgiving dinner with his family in Utah, an unlikely scenario unless he had help"

Of course they are - that is ridiculous!

The FBI will not consider polar bears, unicorns, or Jesus-in-the-Toast! All socalled candidates who fit that description including physically handicapped guys, transvestites, and active pedophiles are not likely candidates in the Cooper social media malaise.

All others should apply at Walmart!

 

 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #773 on: June 01, 2015, 03:08:11 PM »
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I don't think anyone is actually "eliminated" in an open case.
I'm not sure if this is a case of semantic arguing, but the FBI's official website (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) states:

"And what of some of the names pegged as Cooper? None have panned out. Duane Weber, who claimed to be Cooper on his deathbed, was ruled out by DNA testing (we lifted a DNA sample from Cooper’s tie in 2001). Kenneth Christiansen, named in a recent magazine article, didn’t match the physical description and was a skilled paratrooper. Richard McCoy, who died in 1974, also didn’t match the description and was at home the day after the hijacking having Thanksgiving dinner with his family in Utah, an unlikely scenario unless he had help"



Perhaps I should have said they wouldn't eliminate anyone unless they had proof. it appears they believe the DNA is a solid piece of evidence to eliminate a suspect? (Duane Weber) they seem to trust the physical description (KC) and McCoy has family members vouch.

It makes one wonder about what DNA they really have? Kenny doesn't fit the description, so they feel nothing will turn this over. pictures of McCoy were shown to the crew. they stated he wasn't Cooper.

Sorry Sailshaw, but all the suspects should be mentioned, no matter the findings. In my opinion, I think several of these people speaking about Kenny are deceptive. I find it strange that none of them come forward on there own to help solve one of America's greatest unsolved mysteries. some have already been proven deceptive. I also believe Robert Blevins started the story surrounding the FBI taking DNA from Lyle. it circles back to Robert. I also believe he takes a lot of his finding completely out of context. the money found on the property is a myth as well.

Sailshaw, Vicki, NMIwrecks, all seem to put the story out there for people to take a look at, and not try and match everything in the case to the suspect, or cram it down people throats with tons of speculation.


Sorry Sailshaw, but all the suspects should be mentioned, no matter the findings.

WHY!?

I an supply the names of the entire population of my city! None ar DB Cooper.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #774 on: June 02, 2015, 07:16:53 AM »
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Sorry Sailshaw, but all the suspects should be mentioned, no matter the findings.

WHY!?

I an supply the names of the entire population of my city! None ar DB Cooper.


Why not? we should only discuss certain suspects, or no suspects at all?
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #775 on: June 02, 2015, 10:29:31 AM »

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Shutter   I think we should discuss only the possible suspects and Kenney was too short to be Cooper at 5ft 8in. Blevins would not accept that and kept after KC because KC was the best suspect in Blevins book. Good reason not to buy the book and not listen to anything from Blevins. My suspect is Sheridan Peterson who I am very sure did the perfect job and had the perfect alibi. The DNA on the tie was not from Cooper and the only way now for the FBI to solve the case, and it it very simple to do and would cost little, is to compare the DNA from under the stamps and envelope flaps of the four letters sent to the newspapers following Norjak. A match with the DNA the FBI has from Sheridan would blow the case wide open as it would prove Sheridan was not in Nepal per his phoney alibi but was in Portland, the scene of the crime at the time of Norjak. Like I have said many times, this is the SMOKING GUN in the case and can solve it quickly. The FBI is still sleeping on the case and I think they have been told to STAND DOWN by their bosses. However, the case is still solvable and Sheridan is getting old but still alive.
   I have a hard glass lens that I will use to show how easy is would have been to make the cosmetic contact lens. I have talked to maker of contacts in those days and cosmetic lens were available at a low cost in the early 1970;s. They were just changing over to soft lens at that time but Sheridan would have used a hard cojntact. He could have even made them himself using model airplane spray lacquer. When I finish making my example you will be able to see how easy it would have been to do. Cooper only showed his eyes for two Flight Attendants to establish that his eyes were brown (but to hide his blue eyes). He quickly changed to sunglasses and would have removed the brown cosmetic ones as he only had to show the eye color once to establish fake eye color. Sheridan had very good eyes and did not need anything on then to see well (eagleeye) but only for his disguise and it did well to fool the FBI.

Bob Sailshaw 73's
 

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« Reply #776 on: June 02, 2015, 11:37:33 PM »
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Sorry Sailshaw, but all the suspects should be mentioned, no matter the findings.

WHY!?

I an supply the names of the entire population of my city! None ar DB Cooper.


Why not? we should only discuss certain suspects, or no suspects at all?

1. Years/Decades of examining-discussing the same suspects have accomplish nothing.
2. No help or enlightenment will be coming from the FBI, in any event.
3. People steadfastly refuse to research areas of the FBI suspect pool which are known, in favor of discussing over and over the same ole suspects we already have on the table ........ a sane person can only do this so long!
4. tired of reading the same sermons from the same people over and over for 5+ years!....
5. Bruce Jenner! not my cup of tea.
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« Reply #777 on: June 03, 2015, 01:58:00 AM »
That's why Caitlyn is so refreshing.

As for Cooper, so, why don't we do more independent research?
 

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« Reply #778 on: June 03, 2015, 08:45:43 PM »
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As for Cooper, so, why don't we do more independent research?

It's like selling insurance, eventually you run out of cousins and uncles, and need real leads.

That's what we need, more suspects, more leads. Names, dates, places. Real people to investigate. Kaye suggested there are only a few hundred people who would be managers or engineers at chemical plants. I think Boeing was pretty well covered by the FBI... so the pool of potential people is small. With Obits generally searchable online, we can put the pieces together. If we get the good leads. (cue Jack Lemmon from GlenGarry Glen Ross.)

For the record, I did investigate all of my cousins and uncles. Came up empty... sold some knives though.
 

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« Reply #779 on: June 03, 2015, 09:48:05 PM »
Engineer at a chemical plant that knew about the 727, and skydiving...... :-\