page 133 of file64 has a 302 from 11/26/71 when the left-behind rig was found in Reno.
it statest that the canopy was 24 feet, from 1960.
the other info seems (to my memory) to align to the Hayden rig (Brown Engineering on the card)

So Cooper left behind a 24-foot canopy?

Why would people say jumping with a 24-foot canopy would have been the preferred thing to do?
Seems like the chute selection mythology promoted by Cossey and the FBI gets stranger and stranger

Be nice to know what canopy is really in the museum Hayden rig

I always wondered who said it was a dummy reserve that Cooper got.
This FBI report says Cossey was the first to claim that, on 11/25/71

A reporter, Mr. Clossy, AP, Seattle talked to Cossey late afternoon or night of Nov. 25.1971 and got the story that one of the chutes was a "demo" chute.

Why was Cossey so knowledgeable, so early. Basically the next day.

file64 page 201

Here's another copy of the November 25, 1971 from SA Reese H. Chipman on the chutes that were delivered to Cooper.

as noted before, he says the "civiiian luxury type" rig has "One or two burp sack in folds"
We debated what a burp sack was.

Could Bruce or someone who has all the current knowledge on the parachutes chime in on this

looking at the latest file64 from the FBI
page 129 and page 130
they are evidence inventory sheets, for evidence stored in "BER-Basement"
So they are describing physical items in the possession of the FBI on 12/21/71, acquired on 11/24/71

the page 129 file describes the reserve Cooper left on the plane
The page 130 file is problematic to me. It should be the parachute that was eventually returned to Norman Hayden.

But it makes no sense. The description is the parachute that the FBI said cooper jumped with. Not the one left behind.
So how could this parachute description be describing a physical item they have?

It says
Date 12/21/71
Source from Which Property Acquired
On board Northwest Airlines Flight #305 on landing at Reno, Nevada

One back parachute with a sage green nylon container Model NB6 (Navy back pack 6) with sage green nylon harness. This parachute which is white in color has a 26 foot (Ed. corrected with pen from original "28 foot) nylon flat circular spread with padded cushion. The pilot chute is also white.

This chute is identified officially as Pioneer Parachute Company, 26 foot rip stop conical type 226, SN 9/57. This chute was inspected and repacked 5/21/71, Riggers License #1579638, bearing the signature "E.J. Cossey, Issaquah, Wn." Also an integral part of this chute is a 24 foot rip stop made by Steinthal Mfg Company, type 60-9707, SN 7/60. This also was packed by "E.J. COSSEY" on 5/21/71.

The identification cards for this chute are contained in a packet on the back of the chute pocket labelled "Inspection and Packing Data."

This makes no sense to me, as it describes two canopies (26 foot and 24 foot). It seems to imply the canopy in the rig returned to Hayden is a 24 foot canopy?
My memory is that Hayden claimed the parachutes he had were identical. It's so bizarre that on the one hand the FBI claims Cooper jumped with a NB6, but then claims they have a NB6 in the basement that was left behind??

Why is this parachute described as a sage green Model NB6 with sage green nylon harness? By my recollection, that's not a description of the canopy that was returned to Hayden. Unless you're loose with what "sage green" means to you?

Was this description wrong? It's wrong talking about 24 foot and 26 foot canopies. Is any of the description right?
What is the 24-ft canopy? What canopy is in the rig the museum now has?
The page 129 description of the left behind reserve is less problematic, but I include it for completeness

About the only thing that makes sense in "DB Cooper -26940" above is that the packing cards (note the plural) for both the front and back chutes left on the airliner were found in the packing card slot on the back chute.  You are not going to have two canopies in that backpack container.

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Could Bruce or someone who has all the current knowledge on the parachutes chime in on this

looking at the latest file64 from the FBI
page 129 and page 130
they are evidence inventory sheets, for evidence stored in "BER-Basement"
So they are describing physical items in the possession of the FBI on 12/21/71, acquired on 11/24/71

the page 129 file describes the reserve Cooper left on the plane
The page 130 file is problematic to me. It should be the parachute that was eventually returned to Norman Hayden.

But it makes no sense. The description is the parachute that the FBI said cooper jumped with. Not the one left behind.
So how could this parachute description be describing a physical item they have?

It says
Date 12/21/71
Source from Which Property Acquired
On board Northwest Airlines Flight #305 on landing at Reno, Nevada

One back parachute with a sage green nylon container Model NB6 (Navy back pack 6) with sage green nylon harness. This parachute which is white in color has a 26 foot (Ed. corrected with pen from original "28 foot) nylon flat circular spread with padded cushion. The pilot chute is also white.

This chute is identified officially as Pioneer Parachute Company, 26 foot rip stop conical type 226, SN 9/57. This chute was inspected and repacked 5/21/71, Riggers License #1579638, bearing the signature "E.J. Cossey, Issaquah, Wn." Also an integral part of this chute is a 24 foot rip stop made by Steinthal Mfg Company, type 60-9707, SN 7/60. This also was packed by "E.J. COSSEY" on 5/21/71.

The identification cards for this chute are contained in a packet on the back of the chute pocket labelled "Inspection and Packing Data."

This makes no sense to me, as it describes two canopies (26 foot and 24 foot). It seems to imply the canopy in the rig returned to Hayden is a 24 foot canopy?
My memory is that Hayden claimed the parachutes he had were identical. It's so bizarre that on the one hand the FBI claims Cooper jumped with a NB6, but then claims they have a NB6 in the basement that was left behind??

Why is this parachute described as a sage green Model NB6 with sage green nylon harness? By my recollection, that's not a description of the canopy that was returned to Hayden. Unless you're loose with what "sage green" means to you?

Was this description wrong? It's wrong talking about 24 foot and 26 foot canopies. Is any of the description right?
What is the 24-ft canopy? What canopy is in the rig the museum now has?
The page 129 description of the left behind reserve is less problematic, but I include it for completeness

About the only thing that makes sense in "DB Cooper -26940" above is that the packing cards (note the plural) for both the front and back chutes left on the airliner were found in the packing card slot on the back chute.  You are not going to have two canopies in that backpack container.

interesting. That could explain some of the confusion for agents that didn't understand canopy/container/rig contruction vs the data they saw on card(s)

24 foot surplus twill canopies were deadly. They were susceptible to ripping if deployed at terminal velocity. 24 foot ripstop canopies could withstand terminal velocity openings but we’re a bit small for heavier jumpers. Norman told Bruce that he bought two identical canopies at a surplus store. I bet that they were both 28 ft C9 canopies. A rigger friend told me that the all white C9s were really designated as C8s. Every C9 I saw had at least two colors and often four. Navy 26 ft conical canopies were very rarely seen in retail surplus stores. I looked like crazy in surplus stores during 1968 and never saw one. Saw many C9s. Asked friends in other areas to look for Navy conical in their surplus stores. None found.

I’d bet Norman bought two C9s (or the all white version called C8).

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First time I heard this theory, the guy who believes Braden could have been Cooper, Drew Beeson, on his YouTube video I just posted over on the other thread, says he would not put it past the FBI to actually have said they lost those cigarette butts but in fact have them!!!  But that would mean they would have done a private DNA profile of each known suspect would it not?  That one is likely is longshot.  And its not likely that the FBI would publically admit to making such a huge blunder.  of course in 1971 they had no idea how important those cigarettes could have been.

That was discussed a few times in the past as being a possibility. But someone (I believe it was Flyjack) produced a document a while back that showed that the cigarette butts were to be destroyed. I think that most people are now of the opinion that the butts were disposed of, rather than lost. In either case, a huge error.

It was policy back then. one of the worst things they could have done making a policy to get rid of old evidence but that's what they did. times were different in lots of ways back then..you could walk right into a crime scene. look what the media did at Tbar, they were right there with them.

Over time they learned from the mistakes. they had no clue the butts could end up being the most important piece of evidence in the case. same for the tie by handling it with no gloves, joking around with it, wearing it! today hundreds of photo's are taken, crime scenes are locked tight and evidence is carefully handled and documented.

Things can be checked in seconds vs days or weeks compared to 50 years ago. DNA is probably one thing they can't control or get in one day but this will change in the future.