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Offline Shutter

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #675 on: April 01, 2015, 09:39:34 AM »
Knowing others have succeeded in jumping is a good thing, but like medication, it can work for one, and kill the other.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #676 on: April 01, 2015, 12:50:48 PM »
Finally, someone posted "The Skyjacker Who Got Away" I've never had the chance to see this one. perhaps others missed it as well?





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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #677 on: April 01, 2015, 04:52:04 PM »
It's interesting, but if I remember correctly, points to KC at the end as a viable suspect. I will re watch.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #678 on: April 01, 2015, 05:10:06 PM »
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It's interesting, but if I remember correctly, points to KC at the end as a viable suspect. I will re watch.


Correct, they really beef it up making it look like he bought "a big house, for cash" old Skippy is on it too....
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #679 on: April 01, 2015, 05:58:25 PM »
Greetings from 377: Dropzone DB Cooper Forum refugee. I think you'll soon be seeing others.

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #680 on: April 01, 2015, 06:03:02 PM »
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Greetings from 377: Dropzone DB Cooper Forum refugee. I think you'll soon be seeing others.

377


Welcome back 377, pull up a chair, and grab a beverage, and enjoy the fresh air provided here.

Currently, we are pretty heavy into the money find, and the flight path just to bring you up to speed.....
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #681 on: April 01, 2015, 09:26:12 PM »
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It's interesting, but if I remember correctly, points to KC at the end as a viable suspect. I will re watch.


Correct, they really beef it up making it look like he bought "a big house, for cash" old Skippy is on it too....


Me, too!  No chiron identification, though.
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« Reply #682 on: April 01, 2015, 11:48:47 PM »
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Greetings from 377: Dropzone DB Cooper Forum refugee. I think you'll soon be seeing others.

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Welcomen! dah dit dah dit.

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« Reply #683 on: April 01, 2015, 11:50:42 PM »
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Knowing others have succeeded in jumping is a good thing, but like medication, it can work for one, and kill the other.

Thats not a bad methaphor.  That could be exactly right. 
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #684 on: April 03, 2015, 12:41:12 PM »
About that non alloyed Tie-Tanium...  I still think its a very intriguing clue and potentially a powerful one since very few suspects will have been exposed to it.

Turns out non alloyed titanium has been used in aircraft manufacturing for a long time. The Douglas DC-7, a 1950s 4 engine propliner, used non alloyed titanium for its engine firewalls resulting in a substantial weight savings. Souce: Douglas DC 6 and DC 7, book by Harry Gann.

I don't post a lot but it doesn't mean I'm dormant. I have read a lot about rubber band degradation, fresh water boring insects, uses of non alloyed titanium, dredges, MAC SOG parachute ops, smoke jumpers, 727 airdrop mods and ops etc.  And I spend a lot of time looking at my Cooper twenty trying to figure out how the hell it ended up at Tena Bar. \

Will be dusting off the winter cobwebs and getting back to jumping again in May. I formerly jumped year round, even jumped though hail once shredding my face in the process. Then one day, as maturity set in, I asked myself: "is it really fun freezing up here in an unheated plane with an open door, waiting to jump into a muddy windy DZ?" The answer had been yes for many years but as I cruised into my 50's I changed my view. Now I am a fair weather moderate winds wuss. I think my moderate approach has helped me avoid getting up close and personal with titanium, the kind they use for orthopedic surgery implants.

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #685 on: April 03, 2015, 04:51:29 PM »
First chuckle of the day. Thanks, 3!
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #686 on: April 03, 2015, 11:14:07 PM »
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About that non alloyed Tie-Tanium...  I still think its a very intriguing clue and potentially a powerful one since very few suspects will have been exposed to it.


377, did you get a chance to read what Tom Kaye posted here recently?
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Seems we were wrong about one huge thing.  As it turns out Boeing did use a lot of pure Ti in the SST. We ruled Boeing out early because we thought it was all alloyed. We are now talking with a Boeing Ti engineer that has been working there since  the 80's. That is the new best area for research.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #687 on: April 04, 2015, 09:33:49 AM »
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About that non alloyed Tie-Tanium...  I still think its a very intriguing clue and potentially a powerful one since very few suspects will have been exposed to it.

Turns out non alloyed titanium has been used in aircraft manufacturing for a long time. The Douglas DC-7, a 1950s 4 engine propliner, used non alloyed titanium for its engine firewalls resulting in a substantial weight savings. Souce: Douglas DC 6 and DC 7, book by Harry Gann.

 I think my moderate approach has helped me avoid getting up close and personal with titanium, the kind they use for orthopedic surgery implants.

A quick google search shows that the use of tie-tanium was much more widespread in the early 1970s, than we’ve previously believed.  Citizen made a titanium watch (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) in 1970, so could the Cooper suspect have worked at the watch factory, or repaired watches, or simply just replaced the battery in a titanium watch?  Maybe the person the Cooper suspect stole the tie from could have been any of those things.

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #688 on: April 04, 2015, 10:09:03 AM »
I'll look on the CS site again, but I believe the "Tanium" appeared to be a piece that was machined. you see a little curl in the metal similar to when you drill into metal. I deal with two types of metal in my profession. one is aluminum, and the second is steel. if you don't clean the aluminum prior to completing the product, it has metal dust on it. steel needs to be handled with gloves. it will leave little metal splinters in your hands that are hard to get out. I don't know the case with Tie-tanium. (good way of terming this by the way)

My guess would be this particle must of came from the manufacturing end VS someone putting together a device with a tie-tanium part in it. the pieces are cleaned prior to shipping the item in most cases. I'm guessing parts like camera shutters would be punched out on a press. this wouldn't leave any drilled, or curled objects laying around that could be transferred to clothing.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #689 on: April 05, 2015, 02:22:30 AM »
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I'll look on the CS site again, but I believe the "Tanium" appeared to be a piece that was machined. you see a little curl in the metal similar to when you drill into metal. I deal with two types of metal in my profession. one is aluminum, and the second is steel. if you don't clean the aluminum prior to completing the product, it has metal dust on it. steel needs to be handled with gloves. it will leave little metal splinters in your hands that are hard to get out. I don't know the case with Tie-tanium. (good way of terming this by the way)

My guess would be this particle must of came from the manufacturing end VS someone putting together a device with a tie-tanium part in it. the pieces are cleaned prior to shipping the item in most cases. I'm guessing parts like camera shutters would be punched out on a press. this wouldn't leave any drilled, or curled objects laying around that could be transferred to clothing.

Yes, that curled piece looks like a drilling or lathe shaving ... you can even get very tiny curled pieces like this during a polishing process if the piece is spinning and the abrasive is carborundum or similar ... 
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