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Chaucer · « **Reply #6375 on:** April 19, 2021, 01:31:04 AM »

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You just troll, bully and talk shit.
You mean like calling someone “fucking stupid”? Or bragging that you “annihilated” someone in a debate? Or sarcastically saying you “feel bad” for someone? Or mocking someone’s “sorry ass” for never “coming up with the goods”.

I distinctly remember you whining to Shutter not long ago about being “attacked” when I and others were factually and unemotionally challenging your assertions on the WFP.

Apparently, EU has impunity for the same things he does to others. Your cognitive dissonance is matched only by your hubris.

Oh, by the way, if you could point out in any of the interviews or 302s where Cooper’s eye color is described as “blue” or “possibly blue”, that’d be great. Thanks.

Oh I see. If someone doesn't just take it up the ass and actually bites back they're the bully, troll and prick? How rich coming from you.

The files don't have to say "possibly blue." They just have to say "possibly brown." Why? Because you and others are asserting that DBC's eye color was brown and only brown. Another idiot gets rolled.

These are argumets I will not lose. But feel free to challenge me.

Prosecution rests, your honor.

georger · « **Reply #6376 on:** April 19, 2021, 04:33:33 AM »

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You just troll, bully and talk shit.
You mean like calling someone “fucking stupid”? Or bragging that you “annihilated” someone in a debate? Or sarcastically saying you “feel bad” for someone? Or mocking someone’s “sorry ass” for never “coming up with the goods”.

I distinctly remember you whining to Shutter not long ago about being “attacked” when I and others were factually and unemotionally challenging your assertions on the WFP.

Apparently, EU has impunity for the same things he does to others. Your cognitive dissonance is matched only by your hubris.

Oh, by the way, if you could point out in any of the interviews or 302s where Cooper’s eye color is described as “blue” or “possibly blue”, that’d be great. Thanks.

Oh I see. If someone doesn't just take it up the ass and actually bites back they're the bully, troll and prick? How rich coming from you.

The files don't have to say "possibly blue." They just have to say "possibly brown." Why? Because you and others are asserting that DBC's eye color was brown and only brown. Another idiot gets rolled.

These are argumets I will not lose. But feel free to challenge me.
Prosecution rests, your honor.

There is no debate. This is facts and science.

What EU failed to tell everyone is hair color and eye color are genetically related! Cooper's sunglasses didnt do a damned thing to change his hair color under the microscope! Ooops. The reason why these two traits are usually linked is that the genes responsible for hair and eye color happen to be close together on the same chromosomes. When genes like these are close together the traits tend to end up coming in pairs (blonde hair/blue eyes, etc.) statistically.

My guess is, EU doesnt really care. His plans are set. EU is just posturing. Facts and science dont matter in EU's world. EU is interested in programming for events and tv. EU is not interested in solving the Cooper case, and the fact is he can't - he isnt in a position to solve the Cooper case, and neither is R99! Nor is Mr Blevins!

EU · « **Reply #6377 on:** April 19, 2021, 08:38:34 AM »

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There is no debate. This is facts and science.

What EU failed to tell everyone is hair color and eye color are genetically related! Cooper's sunglasses didnt do a damned thing to change his hair color under the microscope! Ooops. The reason why these two traits are usually linked is that the genes responsible for hair and eye color happen to be close together on the same chromosomes. When genes like these are close together the traits tend to end up coming in pairs (blonde hair/blue eyes, etc.) statistically.

My guess is, EU doesnt really care. His plans are set. EU is just posturing. Facts and science dont matter in EU's world. EU is interested in programming for events and tv. EU is not interested in solving the Cooper case, and the fact is he can't - he isnt in a position to solve the Cooper case, and neither is R99! Nor is Mr Blevins!

GEORGER, I keep challenging you to back up your flagrant lies, yet you always ignore me when I call you out. I think it's quite obvious the story that your actions--actually inaction--tells.

I'm still waiting to read something substantive from you. Arguing moon cycles and DNA test serial numbers ain't really offering up much.

On the other hand, actually reading FBI files, putting boots on the ground, collecting samples to be analyzed (be they sand, clay or DNA), getting substantive data from the FBI via FOIA requests, interviewing witnesses and experts, and writing extensively about my theories and findings, is offering up tangible results.

I don't suffer fools or trolls well. Anyone can be a bad ass behind a computer screen. Moreover, everyone who knows me knows that I have their back if they have a theory, suspect or idea. They know my input will be based upon a lot of knowledge and experience on this case. I cannot say the same about the overwhelming majority of your input.

In closing, stay silent if you don't have anything constructive to say or offer (HINT: If you're inclined to follow-up a comment with an ignorant laughing emoji, it's probably worthless). Stop lying. Don't put words in other people's mouths. And if you want to be a tough guy, take me up on one of my charity-based offers or debate me LIVE on a podcast or a LIVE streaming event.

Chaucer · « **Reply #6378 on:** April 19, 2021, 11:45:41 AM »

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stay silent if you don't have anything constructive to say or offer

I hope you heed your own advice.

Robert99 · « **Reply #6379 on:** April 19, 2021, 01:13:44 PM »

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stay silent if you don't have anything constructive to say or offer
I hope you heed your own advice.

Chaucer, you need to heed your own advice as well.

georger · « **Reply #6380 on:** April 19, 2021, 01:27:14 PM »

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There is no debate. This is facts and science.

What EU failed to tell everyone is hair color and eye color are genetically related! Cooper's sunglasses didnt do a damned thing to change his hair color under the microscope! Ooops. The reason why these two traits are usually linked is that the genes responsible for hair and eye color happen to be close together on the same chromosomes. When genes like these are close together the traits tend to end up coming in pairs (blonde hair/blue eyes, etc.) statistically.

My guess is, EU doesnt really care. His plans are set. EU is just posturing. Facts and science dont matter in EU's world. EU is interested in programming for events and tv. EU is not interested in solving the Cooper case, and the fact is he can't - he isnt in a position to solve the Cooper case, and neither is R99! Nor is Mr Blevins!

GEORGER, I keep challenging you to back up your flagrant lies, yet you always ignore me when I call you out. I think it's quite obvious the story that your actions--actually inaction--tells.

I'm still waiting to read something substantive from you. Arguing moon cycles and DNA test serial numbers ain't really offering up much.

On the other hand, actually reading FBI files, putting boots on the ground, collecting samples to be analyzed (be they sand, clay or DNA), getting substantive data from the FBI via FOIA requests, interviewing witnesses and experts, and writing extensively about my theories and findings, is offering up tangible results.

I don't suffer fools or trolls well. Anyone can be a bad ass behind a computer screen. Moreover, everyone who knows me knows that I have their back if they have a theory, suspect or idea. They know my input will be based upon a lot of knowledge and experience on this case. I cannot say the same about the overwhelming majority of your input.

In closing, stay silent if you don't have anything constructive to say or offer (HINT: If you're inclined to follow-up a comment with an ignorant laughing emoji, it's probably worthless). Stop lying. Don't put words in other people's mouths. And if you want to be a tough guy, take me up on one of my charity-based offers or debate me LIVE on a podcast or a LIVE streaming event.

EU you are talking like a lunatic! You've had t5oo many Moon Pies! Foul mouthed too.

Elect the foul mouthed guy ?

Chaucer · « **Reply #6381 on:** April 19, 2021, 01:54:55 PM »

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stay silent if you don't have anything constructive to say or offer
I hope you heed your own advice.

Chaucer, you need to heed your own advice as well.

I’m not the one that insults other people’s intelligence, mocks other people’s education level, questions other people’s mental health, and curses at people who disagree with me. That seems to be you and EU.

I’m over this. I’ve said my piece. Back to DB Cooper...

georger · « **Reply #6382 on:** April 19, 2021, 02:33:18 PM »

You would think people interested in the Cooper case, would be interested in the EVIDENCE ? And take it seriously ? Apparently not.

For example the word PARTIAL is playing a central role in this case - and yet not one person has tried to define the word, or bring evidence here which would illuminate what the FBI means when it says its dna profile available is 'degraded' and only a 'partial'. In years past people have relied on people like Galen Cook, Richard Tosaw, Bruce Smith, etal who came forward making statements about the FBI's partial profile. I challenge anyone to come forward and tell us what the word PARTIAL means as it applies to the Cooper case and what the FBI has and has-not. ?

Since Ulis wants me to SHUT UP! lets have someone NEW come and enlighten us on this subject ? R99? Eric of Portland? Ckret? Tom Kaye? . . .

Anyone?

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EU · « **Reply #6383 on:** April 19, 2021, 02:48:26 PM »

I'll bite...tell me what partial means.

BTW, I put a call into a DNA expert a few days back asking her for clarification on some of these very things. She stated she would review and get back to me shortly.

I am very curious why the FBI thinks they may be working with DBC's DNA. Why do they announce that the DNA doesn't match in the case of LD and Duane, yet they also state publicly that they aren't absolutely certain that they have DBC's DNA? Even though the FBI documentation appears to suggest that they are confident that they have his DNA, after all, they state they can eliminate suspects?

georger · « **Reply #6384 on:** April 19, 2021, 03:29:23 PM »

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I'll bite...tell me what partial means.

BTW, I put a call into a DNA expert a few days back asking her for clarification on some of these very things. She stated she would review and get back to me shortly.

I am very curious why the FBI thinks they may be working with DBC's DNA. Why do they announce that the DNA doesn't match in the case of LD and Duane, yet they also state publicly that they aren't absolutely certain that they have DBC's DNA? Even though the FBI documentation appears to suggest that they are confident that they have his DNA, after all, they state they can eliminate suspects?

My guess is the Lab has a 'pool' of profiles contributed by 'multiple donors', one of which they think is Cooper's. They are probably comparing suspect dna with the 'pool'.

EU · « **Reply #6385 on:** April 19, 2021, 06:34:36 PM »

Well I find the following quote from Fred Gutt very interesting and very telling:

FBI Special Agent Fred Gutt told ABC News, "It's possible that the DNA sample taken off the tie was not from the hijacker. There are questions about the tie. It may have been borrowed, or purchased used. The DNA may be from someone else," Gutt said. Gutt also said, "The tie had two small DNA samples, and one large sample lifted off in 2000-2001. It's difficult to draw firm conclusions from these samples."

This quote actually says a lot. Most importantly, it appears to suggest that the rationale for the FBI questioning the veracity of the DNA has to do with the provenance of the tie and not the DNA sample itself. Meaning, they appear to believe that the DNA sample is from the tie's owner, they just can't be absolutely certain that DBC owned the tie.

If this interpretation is accurate it makes sense given what is in the FBI files. That is to say, the FBI files do not question the veracity of the DNA sample at all.

Needless to say, I am convinced that DBC owned the tie and did not borrow it or purchase it from Goodwill. Therefore, in my mind the DNA sample attributed to DBC is likely legit.

Chaucer · « **Reply #6386 on:** April 19, 2021, 07:23:05 PM »

A question I have asked repeatedly and no one knows the answer to is “Where is the small, brown hair found on the towel on the headrest of Cooper’s seat?”

That might have been relatively worthless DNA-wise until recently but now could be the last remaining DNA evidence. But where is it? The same place as the cigarette butts?

andrade1812 · « **Reply #6387 on:** April 19, 2021, 08:35:52 PM »

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A question I have asked repeatedly and no one knows the answer to is “Where is the small, brown hair found on the towel on the headrest of Cooper’s seat?”

That might have been relatively worthless DNA-wise until recently but now could be the last remaining DNA evidence. But where is it? The same place as the cigarette butts?

It was discussed on here years ago, the hair sample was permanently mounted on glass slide. Not sure the exact procedure, but probably some kind of super glue? It would be impossible to examine for DNA or do any other anaysis. I don't know what happened to it either, it appears lost.

Chaucer · « **Reply #6388 on:** April 19, 2021, 09:14:14 PM »

Damn, that’s terrible. Where was it last located?

andrade1812 · « **Reply #6389 on:** April 19, 2021, 09:45:10 PM »

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Damn, that’s terrible. Where was it last located?

Flyjack might know for sure, I recall it being in connection to the Las Vegas division.

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